Strome needs a contract before Kahun.
- I Am The Breadman

I’d rather have Kahun over Janmark.

During his time here Kahun and DeBrincat played together a lot and experienced success. Bring back Kahun and reunit him with the Cat.

I’d rather have Kahun over Janmark.

During his time here Kahun and DeBrincat played together a lot and experienced success. Bring back Kahun and reunit him with the Cat.
- DarthKane

Maybe Kahun isn’t interested in coming back.

I’d rather have Kahun over Janmark.

During his time here Kahun and DeBrincat played together a lot and experienced success. Bring back Kahun and reunit him with the Cat.
- DarthKane

Hey DK...

With the current roster, what would your lines look like?

The moment McDonough got canned, retooling turned into rebuilding. Would of been more evident if the Hawks lost to Edmonton, became concrete when the Hawks looked like a AAAbantam team going against Vegas.

Is there ever a right time to rebuild, especially from the players perspective? When you have to start moving guys from the old core it will always cause ripples in the pond. This team has been average the last 3 years. Seabs has been declining. Keith has been good, but not the same #2 we have come to know. Toews had large stretches of ehhhh. The team needs a tear down. As it stands, the team has no real identity. Integral pieces of the old Cup core are gone. That being Sharp, Hossa and Hammer.

From a pure skill level, the Hawks are a couple steps down from the elite teams. So take what skill we have and surround them with energy/edge and a D zone scheme that works. We are not the electric/smooth possession team of 2010. They are going to have to learn to be a counter puncher in the neutral zone especially if they cant lock down coverage in their own end. I could care less about Toews and others grumbling about not being in the loop about changes. To share that info creates the possibility of it being leaked to the media.

Players want loyalty yet we see time and again these guys sitting out over contract disputes on legit contracts THEY SIGNED! This tear down is about a year behind schedule. I am forever grateful I was able to see the Cup run, but nothing lasts forever. The old way is not working anymore. Lets bring up the kids and enjoy watching them grow. The remaining team core can be LEADERS and show them the proper way to play the game at the NHL level.
- z1990z

The last couple seasons I've gone in with that approach and even more so this season. Like you said, as long suffering Hawk fans it was awesome to finally be rewarded with the run the team had...but it had to end sometime and in retrospect it was really that 2017 season I think.

Nothing's guaranteed. As a Cub fan, you look at the team that was assembled and am disappointed it didn't amount to more titles but am thankful for the one that was achieved as they look now to a potential rebuild.

If the Core Four do remain in the fold, I'm hoping like you they continue to lead and take on a mentoring role.

Not to worry, Stan has just signed Saad's replacement.

Janmark - Toews - Kubalik

Super!
- scottak

More like Caggiula's replacement.

More like Caggiula's replacement.
- boilermaker100

$2.7 mil is a lot to replace Caggs

From a Dallas blog:

Mattias Janmark
After a 2017-18 season which saw Janmark nearly hit 20 goals, his stock has taken a serious nosedive over the past few years. He’s only tallied 12 goals combined over the past two seasons, less than the 19 he recorded in that 2017-18 campaign. It’s a troubling sign for a player who’s seen his totals and ice time steadily drop, and Dallas will likely not be interested in retaining him.

While Janmark is still NHL-calibre talent, Dallas wouldn’t want to burden themselves with a deal for a player who may just not fit in their system anymore. Another team will likely sign him to fill out their fourth line.

I guess Sakic was interested so there is that

Adrian Dater: Continue to hear that the Colorado Avalanche are interested in Mattias Janmark. The Avs are not alone as there are a few other teams interested as well.

They are not waiting. They made a qualifying offer. There might be some additional negotiation for a bridge contract. They can play hard ball and force the issue. Similar to Crow they can say we can negotiate up to this date. After that the qualifying offer is the max. Strome could be waiting to see if he gets an offer sheet at more than the Hawks are offering. But as we know offer sheets are rare, and I have to believe the economic climate in the NHL will not help that.

Hawks still have plenty of room to sign a Kahun type of player.

With the Janmark signing and assuming the 3 injured will be on the roster, Hawks now have 6.1M in cap space for 2 openings. Assume Suter at 925K, leaves 2.5M for Strome with a 2.7M cushion.

Theo Fox: Changing Lanes
Focus on the Blackhawks changing lanes from retool to rebuild and the need to do it the right way.
- Theo Fox

I didn't realize Saad had a list of 10 teams NTC kicking in this season. I guess getting an oversized dman is better than nothing

$2.7 mil is a lot to replace Caggs
- Assman22

Capfriendly says $2.25mil.

From a Dallas blog:

Mattias Janmark
After a 2017-18 season which saw Janmark nearly hit 20 goals, his stock has taken a serious nosedive over the past few years. He’s only tallied 12 goals combined over the past two seasons, less than the 19 he recorded in that 2017-18 campaign. It’s a troubling sign for a player who’s seen his totals and ice time steadily drop, and Dallas will likely not be interested in retaining him.

While Janmark is still NHL-calibre talent, Dallas wouldn’t want to burden themselves with a deal for a player who may just not fit in their system anymore. Another team will likely sign him to fill out their fourth line.
- LAHawk

Size, speed and edge in the bottom 6. Check... Simplify it for him. We don't need him to be a 20 goal scorer. We need him to be a demon on the fore check and play the PK. Maybe a touch too much salary wise, but oh well.

They are not waiting. They made a qualifying offer. There might be some additional negotiation for a bridge contract. They can play hard ball and force the issue. Similar to Crow they can say we can negotiate up to this date. After that the qualifying offer is the max. Strome could be waiting to see if he gets an offer sheet at more than the Hawks are offering. But as we know offer sheets are rare, and I have to believe the economic climate in the NHL will not help that.

Hawks still have plenty of room to sign a Kahun type of player.
- -Doh-

“We’re going to offer sheet Strome” - words never spoken by any GM, ever.

Agreed, Hawks have the leverage with Strome. While this could still break bad, at least we haven’t witnessed Stan rushing and overpaying Strome with more $/term than he warrants. We’ve seen that show before.

They are not waiting. They made a qualifying offer. There might be some additional negotiation for a bridge contract. They can play hard ball and force the issue. Similar to Crow they can say we can negotiate up to this date. After that the qualifying offer is the max. Strome could be waiting to see if he gets an offer sheet at more than the Hawks are offering. But as we know offer sheets are rare, and I have to believe the economic climate in the NHL will not help that.

Hawks still have plenty of room to sign a Kahun type of player.
- -Doh-

I am wondering if the Hawks hope Strome gets offer sheeted and take the second round pick. Then you have your defensive third line center in Janmark. Or does that make no sense?

$2.7 mil is a lot to replace Caggs
- Assman22

Well technically it's 2.25M. I noticed his last contract was for 2.3M so he didn't take much of a haircut compared to other free agent signings. Probably could have got him for under 2M.

Washington is over the cap, and they only have 20 players signed. What would it take to get Jakub Vrana?
- tvetter

Dach and Boqvist and a first.

I am wondering if the Hawks hope Strome gets offer sheeted and take the second round pick. Then you have your defensive third line center in Janmark. Or does that make no sense?
- LAHawk

Janmark's FO numbers are not great. Reading up on him, Dallas moved him to the wing to make use of his excellent speed on the forecheck. He can jump in if needed, but I would rather see him on the wing.

And regarding Pius Suter, center or wing?

Hawks have been and will continue to be stuck in mediocrity on this path Stanbow has us on. He really is just a bean counter that always tries to nibble around the edges for value. Never goes for the home run or the risky proposition. Its a slow death spiral.

Why was Rick Hahn successful? He made a decision to tank, didn't waffle, and traded good to great assets (Eaton, Sale, Quintana) at the most opportunistic times when the trade market was hot for these guys anticipating a playoff run.

STan is not capable of this. He doesn't have the vision or stomach. Or the leash...

I’d rather have Kahun over Janmark.

During his time here Kahun and DeBrincat played together a lot and experienced success. Bring back Kahun and reunit him with the Cat.
- DarthKane

I'd rather have Saad.

Well technically it's 2.25M. I noticed his last contract was for 2.3M so he didn't take much of a haircut compared to other free agent signings. Probably could have got him for under 2M.
- boilermaker100

Supposely Av's and Toronto were interested.

Size, speed and edge in the bottom 6. Check... Simplify it for him. We don't need him to be a 20 goal scorer. We need him to be a demon on the fore check and play the PK. Maybe a touch too much salary wise, but oh well.
- z1990z

I remember the days of Kruger on the 4th line, definitely not an offensive specialist by any means but what those group of Forwards did was exactly what Vegas did to us in the playoffs, tilted the ice, made us play defense chasing the puck. Everyone gets enamored with scoring but 1 of the things during out championship years that we were outstanding at was our 3rd and 4th line would cycle the puck in the offensive zone for close to a minute several times a game. We're lucky to get 20 seconds now.

Hawks have been and will continue to be stuck in mediocrity on this path Stanbow has us on. He really is just a bean counter that always tries to nibble around the edges for value. Never goes for the home run or the risky proposition. Its a slow death spiral.

Why was Rick Hahn successful? He made a decision to tank, didn't waffle, and traded good to great assets (Eaton, Sale, Quintana) at the most opportunistic times when the trade market was hot for these guys anticipating a playoff run.

STan is not capable of this. He doesn't have the vision or stomach. Or the leash...
- busmaster

What Hahn did doesn't work in the NHL who's going to give you cheap rising stars or top prospects for expensive players?

I didn't realize Saad had a list of 10 teams NTC kicking in this season. I guess getting an oversized dman is better than nothing
- BetweenTheDots

And of those ten teams, who knows how many had cap space and were looking to add a veteran winger? One, two? - certainly not all ten.

Sakic knew the situation Stan was dealing with - and used his leverage well.

I hope Stan starts to realize that NMCs/NTCs are sometimes worse than going a little more on $/term with a player’s contract.

Hawks have been and will continue to be stuck in mediocrity on this path Stanbow has us on. He really is just a bean counter that always tries to nibble around the edges for value. Never goes for the home run or the risky proposition. Its a slow death spiral.

Why was Rick Hahn successful? He made a decision to tank, didn't waffle, and traded good to great assets (Eaton, Sale, Quintana) at the most opportunistic times when the trade market was hot for these guys anticipating a playoff run.

STan is not capable of this. He doesn't have the vision or stomach. Or the leash...
- busmaster

Stan's previous boss was into retooling (nibbling around the edges because "one goal"). Rocky and Danny have given Stan a new business plan. He is starting to implement that. Weather you agree with this years deals or not, you cannot say Stan is not capable or does not have the stomach for it, because he was told not to do it.