Yes they lose a good player. To me Oscar is the only one I would hate to see go. At that point you work out a deal to take someone else if need be. This is all based on if they protect 4 d which right now they will not.
- login

Looking at the "deals" teams made, they usually worked in Vegas' favor and not the team who tried to protect themselves...I think Fletch knows that and doesn't want to put himself in that position for a short term gain.

Vegas has a window to win now. I believe that chuck doesn’t see us competing for another couple of years.

With Gustafson signing, I wonder if the plan is to bump Myers up with provy? It would appear that we’d be looking to trade ghost. And if that’s the case, then maybe fletch still has a plan for the top pair hole.
- Hextall271

Is this serious? Were the Flyers just one game from the Eastern Conf. Finals?
Did they finish the regular season 3 points out of second in the conference?

So the GM, in his third year, should just sit on his hands and not try and improve the team when they have players like Giroux and Voracek 30+ years old. So the plan is to wait longer and for them to decline further?

Here is how the Flyers defense looks this morning...of course it can change before training camp or even during the season.

Provy-Sanheim
Gus/Ghost-Myers
Gus/Ghost-Braun
Hagg-Friedman

Not ideal to have two lefties on the top pairing.
Seems like a lot to ask of Myers to hold down the fort and basically anchor the pair.
Ghost and Braun pairing didn’t exactly work well last season.
Hagg might fit if someone gets traded.
Eight seems like a bit much.

You don’t think that they might be planning to play Braun in the top 4?
- NC Flyers Fan

Gus/Hagg, why in the world would you think Ghost is anything over 7th on the depth chart lol

Gus/Hagg, why in the world would you think Ghost is anything over 7th on the depth chart lol
- ClaudeFather

If this is true, they had better trade him and give Ghost a fresh start elsewhere. 4.5 mil in the press box!

Looking at the "deals" teams made, they usually worked in Vegas' favor and not the team who tried to protect themselves...I think Fletch knows that and doesn't want to put himself in that position for a short term gain.
- JW98FlyerFan

Not talking about a short term gain in any way.

If this is true, they had better trade him and give Ghost a fresh start elsewhere. 4.5 mil in the press box!
- NC Flyers Fan

Haha two years in a row would be a lot, not sure what kind of Market there is for him. Not ruling out a bounce back but idk, he has struggled for some time now.

Wasn’t much left for defense out there. Not sure what the trade market is.

With the reports of vegas burning bridges. Or maybe just said. I hope that trade comes back to bite them when the Canucks knock them out of the playoffs.

I know some may not like it.

And now I have no clue what happens with ghost. Who where when?

From The Athletic:




https://theathletic.com/2...ineup-remains-a-question/

s this a positive value contract?
Gustafsson is likely a useful player, but is he useful at the one-year, $3 million price the Flyers paid to secure his services? Does this qualify as a good deal?

The primary reason I had Gustafsson in my “stay away” list two weeks ago was the projected price; I had him in the “Too expensive for what they’ll provide” section. Evolving-Hockey’s contract projections model predicted Gustafsson would secure a lucrative long-term deal: five years at a $6.038 million cap hit. That seemed high considering his disappointing 2019-20 campaign. But even if he came at something of a discount, guaranteeing multiple years and a high cap hit to a flawed player felt needlessly risky.

The equation changes dramatically at a one-year term, which Evolving-Hockey gave only a 4 percent chance of occurring given Gustafsson’s age (28) and comparables. It’s not that Gustafsson is dramatically underpaid — in fact, Evolving Hockey predicted he would receive a $2.915 million cap hit on a one-year term, which is almost exactly what the Flyers paid. It’s that one-year deals given to useful UFAs rarely prove disastrous and are almost always solid buys. The risk is negligible (few aging concerns) and the plausible reward is substantial.

From The Athletic:




https://theathletic.com/2...ineup-remains-a-question/
- MBFlyerfan

So whoever wrote this had Gustafsson as a player to stay away from, then when the Flyers signed him had to script a scenario to where it is now a high reward signing. No wonder their subscription went from $7.99 per month to $1 per month. I would line a bird cage with this.

In regards to GusII

Does this make the Flyers a better team?
Does this improve their chances of winning?

My answer is no it does not. Willing to see the final product though. If they dont make anymore moves on defense I would have rather they rolled with what they already have instead of adding a piece that is really irrelevant.

So whoever wrote this had Gustafsson as a player to stay away from, then when the Flyers signed him had to script a scenario to where it is now a high reward signing. No wonder their subscription went from $7.99 per month to $1 per month. I would line a bird cage with this.
- PLindbergh31

And what was the reason they had him as a "stay away from"?

The season has not even started, but the Flyers have lost it already, right?

You sound as Schmidt or Pietrangelo were a sure ticket to the cup, but neither of them is.

Let's take a deep breath and reserve strong emotions for the actual season and playoffs.
- missingmike

Ryan faster than any of flyers forwards

Ryan faster than any of flyers forwards
- Landsbergfan

no.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!! OMG people, give it a rest! The way I hear it Niskanen was the second coming of Bobby Orr and what are we going to do now!!!

1) First off Fletcher was never going to sign a big name D-man just to lose 1 of our top 4 defensemen to Seattle for nothing! He at least learned that the hard way(see Minnesota). If we signed Petrangelo (or anyone else) for 7 years at 8 mil which D-man would you leave available to Seattle? You can only protect 3?
2) If he did sign a D-man to a long term contract then how does he pay Hart and Sanheim next year when all his money is tied up? That would result in selling off a player or 2. We already see how that plays out when no one wants to take T Johnson off TB hands for nothing. So who would help us out!
3) Last time I checked the Stanley Cup is not won in January! Give our prospects a chance! We have a very good young team already. Guys like Myers, Sanheim, Provorov, TK, Linblom, are just going to get better. Maybe we have a couple more prospects ready to take the next step, Zamula, Robutsov, Laczynski, Allison, etc, If they brought some of these guys to the bubble they must be close. Until we know more let’s hope Patrick will be cleared to resume his career.
4) If they are ready to step in then you saved a crap load of money and did not lose anything, if they are not then you look for a trade partner before the deadline when non playoff teams are more likely to make a deal for a rental.
5) You make it sound like Fletcher should spend every dime and buy a player ASAP! The salary cap is flat for next year at least so why not just spend it all this year! They will need a little bit of flexibility to have some room for the trade deadline next year in case they have a hole or 2 to fill then! The Flyers already have 3 Albatross contracts they can’t get out of I don’t wanna see anymore!

Bottom line this is a playoff team right now barring anything crazy happening. Aside from a few veterans that may be on the downslide, this team will be even better next year. You need to stock
Pile young talent to win in today’s game so you can fill the holes with low cost alternatives or Veteran minimums.
- Tommycasino

Exactly but with one exception: Niskanen and Braun stabilized the defense. None of the young players - other than Provorov - are solid defensively and may still be shaky next season. Braun is back but the new guy they signed is not supposed to be good defensively.

It's a good opportunity to evaluate the young guys with increased responsibility and determine who they want to move forward with or use in a trade.

Is this serious? Were the Flyers just one game from the Eastern Conf. Finals?
Did they finish the regular season 3 points out of second in the conference?

So the GM, in his third year, should just sit on his hands and not try and improve the team when they have players like Giroux and Voracek 30+ years old. So the plan is to wait longer and for them to decline further?
- PLindbergh31

So you're saying they're a contender next season with one big name D?