so if noting else happens how do you set the D

Provy SanHeim
Gus Myers
Braun Hagg/Ghost
- wcorvette

Myers is RH, Sanheim is not.

What would have moved the needle more? Flyers signing Hall for a year, or signing Gus and what other ancillary move is to come?

If they are stuck with MAF why would they give Lehner that contract?
- PLindbergh31

They didn’t do their due diligence lol.

If they are stuck with MAF why would they give Lehner that contract?
- PLindbergh31

Didn’t want to lose Lehner to another team + They took a gamble

They didn’t do their due diligence lol.
- hereticpride

GM Kelly McCringworthy.

Myers is RH, Sanheim is not.
- MJL

But Sanheim has played with provy before ?

If they are stuck with MAF why would they give Lehner that contract?
- PLindbergh31

Because, IMO, McCrimmon misread how difficult it would be to trade Fleury with his Cup rings, etc.

But Sanheim has played with provy before ?
- wcorvette

Yes, 2nd half of 2018-19 under Gordon and Wilson.

Based on a rough estimate on state taxes (NV vs MO), Pietrangelo's $8.8M AAV with Vegas is the equivalent to approx $9.4M in St. Louis. $616,000 in tax savings.

So Pieterangelo essentially moving his family halfway across the country to live in a desert to play for an expansion team for an extra 600k. Interesting.
- PLindbergh31

I think it's even less than that. If I understand correctly, athletes/entertainers pay taxes based on the city they play/perform in, not where they're based. Only 1/2 the games are at home, so the athlete/performer still pays the same amount of taxes for road games (LV & StL excepted).

I agree. Seems like a minimal difference, until you consider the difference of living in LV vs. a poophole like StL. I'd take Oct-June in LV vs St.L any day.

Didn’t want to lose Lehner to another team + They took a gamble
- arichardson22

A 12M goalie tandem would seem to be poor cap management, and hinder putting together a competitive roster.

What would have moved the needle more? Flyers signing Hall for a year, or signing Gus and what other ancillary move is to come?
- PLindbergh31

Hall until I see other move

What would have moved the needle more? Flyers signing Hall for a year, or signing Gus and what other ancillary move is to come?
- PLindbergh31

Apples to oranges, and depends who else (if anyone) is brought it or dealt and how cap is managed. Apples to apples, clearly Hall is the no-brainer better one-year add if they're standalone moves with all cap considerations next season removed.

Because, IMO, McCrimmon misread how difficult it would be to trade Fleury with his Cup rings, etc.
- bmeltzer

Ottawa could take him and buy him out and get a pretty nice haul from Vegas for the favor I would think.

Because, IMO, McCrimmon misread how difficult it would be to trade Fleury with his Cup rings, etc.
- bmeltzer

Wow! If they get stuck eating all that cap space in goal is crazy. I will say the goalie market this year was saturated.

I totally missed the comments from Toews yesterday. Chicago’s core sounds pissssssed.

Based on a rough estimate on state taxes (NV vs MO), Pietrangelo's $8.8M AAV with Vegas is the equivalent to approx $9.4M in St. Louis. $616,000 in tax savings.

So Pieterangelo essentially moving his family halfway across the country to live in a desert to play for an expansion team for an extra 600k. Interesting.
- PLindbergh31

616Kx8 -- That is not a bad deal. Pitlick is moving cross-country, to the desert, for 750K for one season. 5M is nothing to sneeze at.

Well, they can re-use all those old Gustafsson name plates now.

Yes, 2nd half of 2018-19 under Gordon and Wilson.
- bmeltzer

Thought so, I don’t know a lot about Gus but I think I would want Myers with him and on the second unit

This is really a lateral move at best albeit it is cheaper. What it really says is that there is something else in the works.
- MJL

Or it could mean that they have a LOT of confidence in Sanheim and Myers.

I totally missed the comments from Toews yesterday. Chicago’s core sounds pissssssed.
- hereticpride

Which comments?

Because, IMO, McCrimmon misread how difficult it would be to trade Fleury with his Cup rings, etc.
- bmeltzer

Bill.....do you think because of the way Vegas handled the last expansion draft( basically extorting teams for picks and players) burned some bridges and caused some bad blood in the league. Payback is a beach. Or do you think that is business and the GM has his relationships and network of peeps he can reach out to.

Bill.....do you think because of the way Vegas handled the last expansion draft( basically extorting teams for picks and players) burned some bridges and caused some bad blood in the league. Payback is a beach. Or do you think that is business and the GM has his relationships and network of peeps he can reach out to.
- huks99

Business is business. But I do think they burned some bridges.

Or it could mean that they have a LOT of confidence in Sanheim and Myers.
- Tomahawk

I have a ton of confidence that both of those players are going to develop into top flight NHL defenseman but I think it's a mistake to think that either are ready for top pairing duty this upcoming season.

I have a ton of confidence that both of those players are going to develop into top flight NHL defenseman but I think it's a mistake to think that either are ready for top pairing duty this upcoming season.
- MJL

Sanheim's got 200 NHL games under his belt. Time to let him spread his wings.

Myers, I'd be more careful with. But I feel like he'll be ready for top-pair duty sooner than later.

He is not, unless you want the Flyers GAA to soar when he's on the ice. He's an O-zone start guy. Niskanen (and Provorov) were comfortable with more than half their starts in D-zone, and it tougher matchups.
- bmeltzer

I suspect that Sanheim will be moving up to pair with Provy. Gus will be with Haag. Myers will be with ??????