What is my narrative? And when/where did it flip?

Your use of the word narrative is pretty much like the movie "Being John Malkovich."

You just keep walking around saying, "narrative."
- RealityChecker

Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich

Yeah, I'm not talking about whether the team will be better later but right now. I get the argument that Canucks didn't need TT during the regular season but think you need pretty big blinders on to not acknowledge that the team is much better with him in the top 6 than JV, who is currently penciled there.


Markstrom over Holtby
Toffoli over Virtanen
Schmidt over Tanev
Stetcher over Benn

Withholding judgment until training camp is boring
- belcherbd

Folks and media morons seem to forget that our young core may actually improve! What a crazy thought. Players don’t peak at 20

Holtby and his contract over Markstrom and his contract
Toffoli over Virtanen - agree
Schmidt over Tanev - agree
Joulevi over Stetcher and Benn
Gallant over Green, every day, all day, 24/7/365
- Makita

Talking about contracts makes things contentious around here, you must be new.

How many NHL teams have fired Gallant? Green?
If you want to insert a rookie Dman, it would be Chatfield on the right side.

Wtf are you talking about? Who's freaking out?
Everyone likes the trade. Some people want to point out that there was an amount of luck involved.

You want to paint it as hysteria.

Have at it as it seems you have a fetishistic need to paint yourself as reasonable and patient while everyone else is histrionic.
- RealityChecker

This has been his shtick since the beginning.

Folks and media morons seem to forget that our young core may actually improve! What a crazy thought. Players don’t peak at 20
- CanuckDon

You think JV improves?

Folks and media morons seem to forget that our young core may actually improve! What a crazy thought. Players don’t peak at 20
- CanuckDon

The team needs to play differently, in order to be successful no matter how talented Peterson and Hughes are, they’re going to have to be better defensively if they hope to have success going forward.

Yeah, I'm not talking about whether the team will be better later but right now. I get the argument that Canucks didn't need TT during the regular season but think you need pretty big blinders on to not acknowledge that the team is much better with him in the top 6 than JV, who is currently penciled there.


Markstrom over Holtby
Toffoli over Virtanen
Schmidt over Tanev
Stetcher over Benn

Withholding judgment until training camp is boring
- belcherbd

I'm really not big on "on paper" arguments. TT is better than Jake. Thats all that can be said about that argument. It's a redundant question.

Markstrom was my pending UFA priority. The Holtby Demko pairing may work out pretty good but Marky would be the safer short term success route. That means Demko would have to be traded now. They could wait til trade deadline but realistically, teams would line up to poach him from Benning because Seattle would be taking him in the expansion draft otherwise.

Goalie situation dealt with. Demko era begins. Marky's over-term avoided.
RHD and partner for Hughes dealt with and no big trade for the LHD OEL.
Top 6 situation to be dealt with hopefully.

This has been his shtick since the beginning.
- bloatedhefty

I have the victim combing through Hockeybuzz trying to find a post of mine so he can "vanquish" me.

You're all welcome for keeping him busy and away from here for at least a little while (before he gives up.). Let's hope he keeps trying until Starbucks asks him to leave.

If you can post a single post that has me wanting to sign any of those players you listed for as high or higher than they signed (or generally any desire for long term deals) I'll quit Hockeybuzz.

You make sh!t up to help your straw man arguments. Take your own advice and own your weakness.
- RealityChecker

For the 3rd time. Your new narrative contradicts your patience you keep bragging about. I never said you made posts wanting those players.

Folks and media morons seem to forget that our young core may actually improve! What a crazy thought. Players don’t peak at 20
- CanuckDon

A few in here omit that as well lol

Holtby and his contract over Markstrom and his contract
Toffoli over Virtanen - agree
Schmidt over Tanev - agree
Joulevi over Stetcher and Benn
Gallant over Green, every day, all day, 24/7/365
- Makita

I'm glad you find time from protecting Marwood to make these sensible posts.

You think JV improves?
- belcherbd

(frank) no

The team needs to play differently, in order to be successful no matter how talented Peterson and Hughes are, they’re going to have to be better defensively if they hope to have success going forward.
- Pacificgem

Very true.

You think JV improves?
- belcherbd

Will JV go to arb or settle?
1yr or 2yr deal or longer?

Imo he has next year as his real break out opportunity with TT gone. If he is meh then it’s all on him. Hoping he finally matures & we see his best which is more probable than most might agree on. The PO press box was the strongest message he has gotten.

The team needs to play differently, in order to be successful no matter how talented Peterson and Hughes are, they’re going to have to be better defensively if they hope to have success going forward.
- Pacificgem

Are they evolving in your opinion or not?

Benning deserves a lot of praise for closing this deal, regardless how he got there. At the end of the day he was one of a number of GM's who got a legit top 4 d for pennies.

I'm sure at least 10 other teams would of jumped on the deal.

You guys try to make this all to complicated, the GM gets all the credit and the blame. Bad trades, bad UFA signings and bad drafts are on him and good trades, good signings and good drafts are attributed to him.

If you want to tally it all up and decide it's taken him too long, or hasn't actually accomplished anything worthwhile or that he's the greatest GM in existence, great.

Debating whether he thought the Schmidt deal would be available or whether he thought Miller would turn out to be elite is asinine. He puts his job on the line with these moves so whether they are calculated months in advance or he goes all in with his gut, it doesn't matter. It either works or it doesn't.
- belcherbd

It kinda matters. One ignores understanding what you actually do in sports management. But I agree with your general sentiments

Holtby and his contract over Markstrom and his contract
Toffoli over Virtanen - agree
Schmidt over Tanev - agree
Joulevi over Stetcher and Benn
Gallant over Green, every day, all day, 24/7/365
- Makita

I'm really not big on "on paper" arguments. TT is better than Jake. Thats all that can be said about that argument. It's a redundant question.

Markstrom was my pending UFA priority. The Holtby Demko pairing may work out pretty good but Marky would be the safer short term success route. That means Demko would have to be traded now. They could wait til trade deadline but realistically, teams would line up to poach him from Benning because Seattle would be taking him in the expansion draft otherwise.

Goalie situation dealt with. Demko era begins. Marky's over-term avoided.
RHD and partner for Hughes dealt with and no big trade for the LHD OEL.
Top 6 situation to be dealt with hopefully.
- boonerbuck

I’d focus more on better top 9 play. That it is a bigger concern being the bottom was a black hole in scoring all season & the PO’s.

The top 6 is important but not as much as the 3rd line being much more dominant.

Will JV go to arb or settle?
1yr or 2yr deal or longer?

Imo he has next year as his real break out opportunity with TT gone. If he is meh then it’s all on him. Hoping he finally matures & we see his best which is more probable than most might agree on. The PO press box was the strongest message he has gotten.
- Nighthawk

Trade or sign or trade.

You think JV improves?
- belcherbd

Literally has improved in every statistical metric since his rookie year steadily.

https://canucksarmy.com/2...WG3mTKrKCzoS0z8srKL9VJEpY

This is quite the upgrade on Tanev both on the ice and being healthy. This is a home run without a doubt for a 3rd.

But but... this wasnt plan A so it's another strike against Benning.

Trade or sign or trade.
- belcherbd

Should trade him to Montreal for that Toffoli guy they just picked up.

Very true.

- boonerbuck

Nice,trying to switch narratives.

Literally has improved in every statistical metric since his rookie year steadily.
- neem55

Yep. No reason to think he can't repeat or improve on what he did last year, especially if he is getting 2nd line minutes on a regular basis.