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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Oct 13 @ 1:51 PM ET
Carol Schram: Canucks boost blue line by acquiring Nate Schmidt from Vegas Golden Knights The Vancouver Canucks pulled off a big trade on Monday, bringing in defenseman Nate Schmidt from the Vegas Golden Knights in exchange for a third-round draft pick.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 13 @ 2:01 PM ET
Thank you as always Carol!

Now Imagine Benning turns around and trades Nate to Boston for Carlo, Debrusk.

I also find it funny that some people on hockey forums were wanting a dman like Nate, and now complaining that we have him due to his cap hit.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Oct 13 @ 2:01 PM ET
Thanks Carol
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Oct 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
Great deal for VAN.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:10 PM ET
Thanks Carol!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 13 @ 2:14 PM ET
Sounding like Ashton Sautner is talking to VAN.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 13 @ 2:14 PM ET
Thanks Carol, I love this deal! Was a bit worried when we lost out on tanev. Expected the other two to walk. Really like holtby signing as well.

@realitychecker contingency plan is business strategy 101. If you plan a, b c and d there’s also a couple contingency plans as well. Again, they likely had the deal in place and (again) mccrimmon tried to deal him elsewhere. Call it luck if you want i guess. Lucky we didn’t sign barrie or krug too i guess in that case, we got a much better all around dman. He and hughes as a pair is a major hockey boner
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 13 @ 2:15 PM ET
Thanks Carol
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 13 @ 2:17 PM ET
Thank you Carol!
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 13 @ 2:18 PM ET
Sounding like Ashton Sautner is talking to VAN.
- VanHockeyGuy


I read the same thing, in Carol's blog
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 13 @ 2:23 PM ET
@Makita

Farhan: I’m not gonna sit here and pretend [the Schmidt trade] was part of their plan. #canucks
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:25 PM ET
Sounding like Ashton Sautner is talking to VAN.
- VanHockeyGuy

Playoffs!
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:31 PM ET
Thanks Carol, I love this deal! Was a bit worried when we lost out on tanev. Expected the other two to walk. Really like holtby signing as well.

@realitychecker contingency plan is business strategy 101. If you plan a, b c and d there’s also a couple contingency plans as well. Again, they likely had the deal in place and (again) mccrimmon tried to deal him elsewhere. Call it luck if you want i guess. Lucky we didn’t sign barrie or krug too i guess in that case, we got a much better all around dman. He and hughes as a pair is a major hockey boner

- neem55

thanks for the business advice, tips.

anyway, this is a good trade for the canucks. that we can agree on. i find it humorous how some people get so defensive about needing to defend jb. even when he does something good, he has to be made out to be some sort of infallible futurist!
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 13 @ 2:31 PM ET
@Makita

Farhan: I’m not gonna sit here and pretend

- VanHockeyGuy[the Schmidt trade] was part of their plan. #canucks

Of course not, Vegas signed Pietrangelo and Benning called him up and said "I'll give you a 3rd for Schmidt." McPhee then said "Nobody else called me in the last 5 minutes so sure why not?"
Let's face it, this deal was agreed upon previously provided AP signed in Vegas. It may not have been their first plan (OEL, Barrie, Tanev on a 2 year term, then Schmidt) but he probably become one real quick when he knew that Schmidt would be available at some point once AP signed.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 13 @ 2:33 PM ET
thanks for the business advice, tips.

anyway, this is a good trade for the canucks. that we can agree on. i find it humorous how some people get so defensive about needing to defend jb. even when he does something good, he has to be made out to be some sort of infallible futurist!

- RealityChecker

It's even more amazing that he makes a good trade and people instantly start bs'ing that he was lucky, or that he has no plan. JB had a plan, we all knew what it was, and he executed it. His plan was to get a dman that improved our top 4 and he found it.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 13 @ 2:33 PM ET
Playoffs!
- Marwood


I was wrong last year, so I'll leave that one...for now
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 13 @ 2:35 PM ET
It's even more amazing that he makes a good trade and people instantly start bs'ing that he was lucky, or that he has no plan. JB had a plan, we all knew what it was, and he executed it. His plan was to get a dman that improved our top 4 and he found it.
- Retinalz


JB got rewarded for working the phones along with a cheap price.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 13 @ 2:36 PM ET
It's even more amazing that he makes a good trade and people instantly start bs'ing that he was lucky, or that he has no plan. JB had a plan, we all knew what it was, and he executed it. His plan was to get a dman that improved our top 4 and he found it.
- Retinalz


TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 13 @ 2:38 PM ET
Exactly

McPhee/Benning had the Schmidt deal in their back pockets assuming Petro signed with the VGK

As that deal became more likely (and I'm sure Benning was kept in the loop) Benning kept his powder dry regarding capspace and VGK pulled the trigger on it just as Petro put pen to paper

It's possible the Canucks had a last minute shot at Toffoli but with the Petro deal pending Benning let it go knowing Schmidt was likely on his way
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 13 @ 2:39 PM ET
JB got rewarded for working the phones along with a cheap price.
- VanHockeyGuy


I'd have to assume this was a contingency for a while. Everyone knew Pietro was highly likely to sign in Vegas and they'd have to move someone. Van had their ear for a while, so it was just executing when the time was right.

It's not like JB spontaneously got someone from Buffalo because they out-of-nowhere signed Taylor Hall. I'd have to think, like you said, working the phones for so long there was a lead in to this.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:39 PM ET
Exactly

McPhee/Benning had the Schmidt deal in their back pockets assuming Petro signed with the VGK

As that deal became more likely (and I'm sure Benning was kept in the loop) Benning kept his powder dry regarding capspace and VGK pulled the trigger on it just as Petro put pen to paper

It's possible the Canucks had a last minute shot at Toffoli but with the Petro deal pending Benning let it go knowing Schmidt was likely on his way

- TheGame316

Glad you where there to provide us the details.
Balboa
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2020

Oct 13 @ 2:40 PM ET
how is 5 years times 5.95 a cheap price?
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
It's even more amazing that he makes a good trade and people instantly start bs'ing that he was lucky, or that he has no plan. JB had a plan, we all knew what it was, and he executed it. His plan was to get a dman that improved our top 4 and he found it.
- Retinalz

here's the thing: it doesn't have to be one way or the other. it can have elements of both.

example: petey was a homerun of a draft pick. an absolute winner! great job jb/scouting staff.

but it's also lucky that 4 teams didn't pick him.

that doesn't mean that it's all luck and jb didn't have any influence. it's just about looking at the complete picture.

the problem is that in this thread, the camps are so divided that anything that resembles context is labeled "hate," and anything positive is "slurping."
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:44 PM ET
how is 5 years times 5.95 a cheap price?
- Balboa

you haven't looked at this team's payroll.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
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