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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 14 @ 1:47 PM ET
If you don't qualify your RFA's, they become UFA's.

See: Duclair, Anthony and Athanasiou, Andreas

I never said high value RFA's aren't signed until after a QO. I said doing what was literally necessary for Barzal not to turn into an unrestricted free agent is not even remotely close to being a sign that Lou was "out of options". It's boilerplate housekeeping that happens every single year.

This year happens to be one with a great deal of uncertainty around the financial situation of all teams, so I think it's quite a bit over-dramatic to act like Barzal not being signed by now is some sort of high-risk travesty.

- eichiefs9



Do you think Ottawa needs a winger like Barzal?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 14 @ 1:49 PM ET
Do you think Ottawa needs a winger like Barzal?
- nyisles7

No I think they need an elite puck moving defenseman like Boychuk
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
No I think they need an elite puck moving defenseman like Boychuk
- eichiefs9

Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Joined: 08.28.2019

Oct 14 @ 1:59 PM ET
If you don't qualify your RFA's, they become UFA's.

See: Duclair, Anthony and Athanasiou, Andreas

I never said high value RFA's aren't signed until after a QO. I said doing what was literally necessary for Barzal not to turn into an unrestricted free agent is not even remotely close to being a sign that Lou was "out of options". It's boilerplate housekeeping that happens every single year.

This year happens to be one with a great deal of uncertainty around the financial situation of all teams, so I think it's quite a bit over-dramatic to act like Barzal not being signed by now is some sort of high-risk travesty.

- eichiefs9


I am extra nervous. I can see this team unraveling because of cap mismanagement. For 2 years I've been waiting for magic Lou to seriously address these bad contracts, and he never did. This year is bad, next year may be worse.

Question: What if Barzal had opted for arbitration?
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Oct 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
Do you think Ottawa needs a winger like Barzal?
- nyisles7


Barzal is one of the worst top line centers in the league. Let him center the 3rd line while he learns how to play to his line mates strengths. I can count on one hand the number of pucks he has put on Lee's stick for a deflection goal, which used to be Lees big strength. Puckin Barzy keeps trying to turn him into a pretty play shooter. Eberle does his best work just above the paint, when he gets the puck.

The league has caught up to Barzals skate-capades routine, and he hasn't come up with a solution beyond turning the puck over in the O-zone.

Touting Barzal as a top center is puckin insane. Give me a break.
Tedge77
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.17.2019

Oct 14 @ 2:19 PM ET
This is what happens when you overpay bottom 6 talent. You can never trade those deals.
- RogerRoeper

It's better to over over pay your top 6 like the Leafs? Shut the frontdoor
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 14 @ 2:30 PM ET
Barzal is one of the worst top line centers in the league. Let him center the 3rd line while he learns how to play to his line mates strengths. I can count on one hand the number of pucks he has put on Lee's stick for a deflection goal, which used to be Lees big strength. Puckin Barzy keeps trying to turn him into a pretty play shooter. Eberle does his best work just above the paint, when he gets the puck.

The league has caught up to Barzals skate-capades routine, and he hasn't come up with a solution beyond turning the puck over in the O-zone.

Touting Barzal as a top center is puckin insane. Give me a break.

- Puckin_Island



Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 14 @ 2:30 PM ET
Err....Barzal realizes he's worth more, and can get a bunch of his salary in signing bonus. No need to wave the offer sheet as leverage. Instead of dealing with what he can get him for, Lou has to deal with how much can he get him to walk away from. Barzal and his agent HAVE to be aware of covid, and signing bonus will be a big factor for them.

Sweet jesus, the dangers of letting a high talent, young player make the rounds is pretty damn obvious. But that boat has sailed. Risky play by Lou. Giving the 3 low end qualifying offers meant Lou was out of options. Something he did to himself by making some bad signings early on, then over estimating the Isles chances of winning this year.

- Puckin_Island

This post is so (frank)ing stupid why don’t you delete your account.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 14 @ 2:30 PM ET
I am extra nervous. I can see this team unraveling because of cap mismanagement. For 2 years I've been waiting for magic Lou to seriously address these bad contracts, and he never did. This year is bad, next year may be worse.

Question: What if Barzal had opted for arbitration?

- Puckin_Island



Barzal wasn’t eligible for arbitration bumhole

nyisles7
New York Islanders
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Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 14 @ 2:31 PM ET
This post is so (frank)ing stupid why don’t you delete your account.
- Cptmjl



Barzal to the wing
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 14 @ 2:34 PM ET
Barzal is one of the worst top line centers in the league. Let him center the 3rd line while he learns how to play to his line mates strengths. I can count on one hand the number of pucks he has put on Lee's stick for a deflection goal, which used to be Lees big strength. Puckin Barzy keeps trying to turn him into a pretty play shooter. Eberle does his best work just above the paint, when he gets the puck.

The league has caught up to Barzals skate-capades routine, and he hasn't come up with a solution beyond turning the puck over in the O-zone.

Touting Barzal as a top center is puckin insane. Give me a break.

- Puckin_Island

If he’s so terrible compared to the rest of the leagues centers then why the hell are you literally crapping your pants on this thread that he’s going to leave in some panic ridden, hypothetical, bull crap situation?

You are an absolute moron
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 14 @ 2:35 PM ET
Barzal to the wing
- nyisles7

I mean I’m absolutely shocked the Rangers haven’t taken Ladd for a 3rd yet. Probably going to happen any day now. This guy my God
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 14 @ 2:36 PM ET
I am extra nervous. I can see this team unraveling because of cap mismanagement. For 2 years I've been waiting for magic Lou to seriously address these bad contracts, and he never did. This year is bad, next year may be worse.

Question: What if Barzal had opted for arbitration?

- Puckin_Island

Answer: Lou Lamoriello would have reminded him that he wasn't arbitration eligible and he probably would've fired his agent for not knowing that beforehand
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 14 @ 2:38 PM ET
If he’s not so great compared to the rest of the leagues centers then why the hell are you literally crapping your pants on this thread that he’s going to leave in some panic ridden, hypothetical, bull crap situation?

You are an absolute moron

- Cptmjl



He doesn’t care if Barzal the Center leaves it’s Barzal the wing he’s concerned about losing. Ross Johnson Barzal’s Center would be upset as well.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Joined: 08.28.2019

Oct 14 @ 2:38 PM ET
Answer: Lou Lamoriello would have reminded him that he wasn't arbitration eligible and he probably would've fired his agent for not knowing that beforehand
- eichiefs9


Oh. Nevermind.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 14 @ 2:38 PM ET
Answer: Lou Lamoriello would have reminded him that he wasn't arbitration eligible and he probably would've fired his agent for not knowing that beforehand
- eichiefs9



Can’t make this shat up Puckin Nitwit!
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Oct 14 @ 2:40 PM ET
If he’s so terrible compared to the rest of the leagues centers then why the hell are you literally crapping your pants on this thread that he’s going to leave in some panic ridden, hypothetical, bull crap situation?

You are an absolute moron

- Cptmjl


He's a great PLAYER. Some day, he'll be as good a center as you guys think he is now. There's no question Nelson should be the first line center. That isn't even debatable.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Oct 14 @ 2:44 PM ET

You are an absolute moron

- Cptmjl


Yeah, this moron had you begging for proof that you post under multiple accounts, had you calling me Ben, etc, etc. You're parrot is just as dumb. "Don't let the ref use the finger wave rule during the PLAYOFFS". ROFL! He can't even keep his multiple account straight. Frook_you.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 14 @ 2:45 PM ET
Oh. Nevermind.
- Puckin_Island



Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Oct 14 @ 2:45 PM ET


Can’t make this shat up Puckin Nitwit!

- nyisles7


Frook_you dis guy dum.
Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
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Oct 14 @ 2:46 PM ET

- nyisles7


In your ass.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 14 @ 2:46 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Andre...tatus/1316449980094218244

Puckin_Island
New York Islanders
Location: Do not disturb: I love awkward silence
Joined: 08.28.2019

Oct 14 @ 2:48 PM ET
Ross Johnson Barzal’s Center would be upset as well.
- nyisles7


ross center? dis guy dum lik crazy.
Signed..
Frook_you

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
Yeah, this moron had you begging for proof that you post under multiple accounts, had you calling me Ben, etc, etc. You're parrot is just as dumb. "Don't let the ref use the finger wave rule during the PLAYOFFS". ROFL! He can't even keep his multiple account straight. Frook_you.
- Puckin_Island

Still waiting for proof that I post under multiple accounts. Never happened. You’re a clown. So funny you think that’s me.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 14 @ 2:57 PM ET
Yeah, this moron had you begging for proof that you post under multiple accounts, had you calling me Ben, etc, etc. You're parrot is just as dumb. "Don't let the ref use the finger wave rule during the PLAYOFFS". ROFL! He can't even keep his multiple account straight. Frook_you.
- Puckin_Island

Still waiting for proof that I post under multiple accounts. Never happened. You’re a clown. So funny you think that’s me.

edit: sorry, repost
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