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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 16 @ 9:08 PM ET
Anything fall into Benning's plan today?
CoolerHeads
Joined: 07.04.2015

Oct 16 @ 9:09 PM ET
Might be reading this wrong but it looks like arbitration papers just need to be filed for second buyout window (from a Rangers article):

There is a second buyout window that the Rangers can use. That window will be around late October, whenever arbitration hearings are set to close. All the Rangers need is one player to elect to go to arbitration (or themselves elect to go to arbitration). The case doesn’t even need to actually make it there, either player or team need to just file the paperwork.

https://www.google.ca/amp...ities-for-ny-rangers/amp/

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 16 @ 9:44 PM ET
Anything fall into Benning's plan today?
- A_SteamingLombardi


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SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Oct 16 @ 10:05 PM ET
Might be reading this wrong but it looks like arbitration papers just need to be filed for second buyout window (from a Rangers article):

There is a second buyout window that the Rangers can use. That window will be around late October, whenever arbitration hearings are set to close. All the Rangers need is one player to elect to go to arbitration (or themselves elect to go to arbitration). The case doesn’t even need to actually make it there, either player or team need to just file the paperwork.

https://www.google.ca/amp...ities-for-ny-rangers/amp/

- CoolerHeads




Interesting! I had a read thru the public copy of the CBA extension and didn’t see anything that contradicts that. Also, they don’t have to place the player on waivers first

Extension of the CBA:
https://media.nhl.com/sit...lic/ext/NHLPA_NHL_MOU.pdf

In the event a Club elects to Buy-Out a Player with a No-Move clause during this period, the Club will not have a requirement to provide the Player with the option of electing to be placed on Waivers and shall be permitted to proceed immediately with the Buy- Out without waivers being required. Additionally, for 2020 only, a Club shall not be entitled to exercise a Second Period Buyout as set out in s. 11.18 of the CBA for any Player with an Averaged Amount less than $4,000,000
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 16 @ 10:08 PM ET
Hope you guys have a good Friday night.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 16 @ 10:09 PM ET
Might be reading this wrong but it looks like arbitration papers just need to be filed for second buyout window (from a Rangers article):

There is a second buyout window that the Rangers can use. That window will be around late October, whenever arbitration hearings are set to close. All the Rangers need is one player to elect to go to arbitration (or themselves elect to go to arbitration). The case doesn’t even need to actually make it there, either player or team need to just file the paperwork.

https://www.google.ca/amp...ities-for-ny-rangers/amp/

- CoolerHeads



I don't think that's correct.

Clubs are permitted to perform a buyout outside the regular period during the 48 hour period beginning on the third day after the final of [CBA 13(c)ii]:
Settlement of the Club's final arbitration case, or
Receipt of the Club's last arbitration award
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 16 @ 10:23 PM ET
Interesting! I had a read thru the public copy of the CBA extension and didn’t see anything that contradicts that. Also, they don’t have to place the player on waivers first

Extension of the CBA:
https://media.nhl.com/sit...lic/ext/NHLPA_NHL_MOU.pdf

In the event a Club elects to Buy-Out a Player with a No-Move clause during this period, the Club will not have a requirement to provide the Player with the option of electing to be placed on Waivers and shall be permitted to proceed immediately with the Buy- Out without waivers being required. Additionally, for 2020 only, a Club shall not be entitled to exercise a Second Period Buyout as set out in s. 11.18 of the CBA for any Player with an Averaged Amount less than $4,000,000

- SlightlyOffside


The past sentence contradicts the article cooler posted. If I'm reading it correctly we only get a buyout if the player is awarded 4m or more?

If so then we're SOL.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 16 @ 10:26 PM ET
The past sentence contradicts the article cooler posted. If I'm reading it correctly we only get a buyout if the player is awarded 4m or more?

If so then we're SOL.

- Pres.cup


Yes, needs to be over 4M, Sutter is the only one realistically.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 16 @ 11:02 PM ET
Hope you guys have a good Friday night.
- Codes1087

Any hockey related posts pal?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 16 @ 11:09 PM ET
Any hockey related posts pal?
- CanuckDon


nothing to add that hasn't been covered today
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 16 @ 11:51 PM ET
Any hockey related posts pal?
- CanuckDon

You bet, the bestest hockey post of the day right here.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BEAGS, 💓🎈🎂
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 16 @ 11:57 PM ET
I really can't see how a LE to Ottawa deal wouldn't work. Maybe JB is hesitant to pay the price but if it's any lower than a 1st it should be a no brainer.
- NorthNuck


Eat 2 million a year and you still clear cap and they get to the floor paying $1M.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 17 @ 12:16 AM ET
Eat 2 million a year and you still clear cap and they get to the floor paying $1M.
- golfingsince

Sutter retain 1.5m to Detroit?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 17 @ 12:19 AM ET
You bet, the bestest hockey post of the day right here.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BEAGS, 💓🎈🎂

- Makita


Flagged
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 17 @ 12:20 AM ET
Eat 2 million a year and you still clear cap and they get to the floor paying $1M.
- golfingsince


At this point I'd eat 3m to get rid of him
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 17 @ 12:25 AM ET
Eat 2 million a year and you still clear cap and they get to the floor paying $1M.
- golfingsince



You've been saying this for a while and the time to do it came and went don't you think?

1) Probably the Sens are on LE's 15 no trade list and one his agent never spoke with when given free reign.

2) The Sens are already at the cap floor and they did it by spending real $$ on players they wanted playing for the team. No interest by them for buy out proof LE.

3) JB has been on record he's not trading top picks just to move cap.

Plus if it was possible, then when JB was working the phones trying to move cap this was never reported as close or even considered.

But guess which does get mention. Waiving LE if there is an AHL season so he terminates.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 17 @ 12:26 AM ET
Flagged
- Pres.cup


I know the lemming crowd continually like to bash him but he does what's expected.
It's great he's on the team as we become more and more Capitals like..
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 17 @ 12:45 AM ET
You bet, the bestest hockey post of the day right here.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BEAGS, 💓🎈🎂

- Makita

BEAGS 😍😍😍😍🎈🎈🎈🎈
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 17 @ 12:55 AM ET
I know the lemming crowd continually like to bash him but he does what's expected.
It's great he's on the team as we become more and more Capitals like..

- Makita

Are the lemmings slurpers or haters?
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Oct 17 @ 1:19 AM ET
I still think a bigger trade / cap relief will happen to sign Hamonic or other D

LE to minors .....975k CAP savings

We have 1,998,122...

JV = 1.9M
Gaudette = 1.09M

ferlund goes on LTIR start of the season frees up his 3.5M for a late signing or trade during the season, or bonuses...

Not the worst really....



A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 17 @ 1:50 AM ET
Are the lemmings slurpers or haters?
- Marwood

Either way they're in shambles.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Oct 17 @ 3:02 AM ET
Either way they're in shambles.
- A_SteamingLombardi




Heywood Jablome
Joined: 06.26.2020

Oct 17 @ 3:47 AM ET
Is he a head case like Wun Hung Loh on the Islanders, or 5 previous teams.

Why no love for Anthony Duclair ?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 17 @ 7:11 AM ET
You've been saying this for a while and the time to do it came and went don't you think?

1) Probably the Sens are on LE's 15 no trade list and one his agent never spoke with when given free reign.

2) The Sens are already at the cap floor and they did it by spending real $$ on players they wanted playing for the team. No interest by them for buy out proof LE.

3) JB has been on record he's not trading top picks just to move cap.

Plus if it was possible, then when JB was working the phones trying to move cap this was never reported as close or even considered.

But guess which does get mention. Waiving LE if there is an AHL season so he terminates.

- NuckUp

They have to want the player, even thiugh numerous teams havd taken older players and picks for years. But for us no.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 17 @ 8:52 AM ET
I know the lemming crowd continually like to bash him but he does what's expected.
It's great he's on the team as we become more and more Capitals like..

- Makita


Canucks turning into the Capitals
Flames turning into the Canucks
Toronto turning into an assisted living center
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