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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 17 @ 9:49 AM ET
Isn’t this your exact argument for having Tom Sestito/Reaves? Sid wants him in the lineup so he should be?
- Victoro311


I mean, if Grinder had it his way our lineup would look like this:

Lucic-Sid-Perry
Neal-Geno-Clutterbuck


Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 17 @ 11:00 AM ET
I mean, if Grinder had it his way our lineup would look like this:

Lucic-Sid-Perry
Neal-Geno-Clutterbuck

- Rinosaur



I take offense that these tough guy lineups never included Evander Kane.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 17 @ 11:02 AM ET
I take offense that these tough guy lineups never included Evander Kane.
- Guile

He did pushups with stacks of money. Not enough character for Grinder. Neal, though. High character guy.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 17 @ 11:06 AM ET
He did pushups with stacks of money. Not enough character for Grinder. Neal, though. High character guy.
- Victoro311



Blehhhhh... I still wanted him instead of Horny all those years back. No one wanted to swing the deal for him as a rental and then dumping Horny for nothing and extended Kane instead.

edit: I am thinking my memory may be a bit off... but E Kane might have been traded on LTIR, out for the season... and that is why no one here wanted that. I was perfectly fine with having him for the next year instead of Horny.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 17 @ 12:29 PM ET
Reading thru everything it sounds to me like we could sure use Patrick Hornqvist.
- Thunderbolt


To do what? Fumble possession on the 1st and 2nd lines with Geno and Sid or Slow down the 3rd line speed, or to be a massive overpayment on the 4th line, and also be slow?

Or to be a guy making 5.3 and be injured or in the press box?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Oct 17 @ 12:49 PM ET
To do what? Fumble possession on the 1st and 2nd lines with Geno and Sid or Slow down the 3rd line speed, or to be a massive overpayment on the 4th line, and also be slow?

Or to be a guy making 5.3 and be injured or in the press box?

- TheGame316

To score goals.

I realize they may not have bought out JJ without Matheson, but they should. Which would you rather have?

Matheson at 3LD and ERod/Lafferty at 3RW or

Riikola/POJ at 3LD and Hornqvist at 3RW
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Oct 17 @ 1:11 PM ET
Well JR got Ceci...not an awful contract but it eats up another spot that could have been earned by POJ (maybe) and Riiki who I really like when he’s played
Ben_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.12.2008

Oct 17 @ 1:14 PM ET
Well JR got Ceci...not an awful contract but it eats up another spot that could have been earned by POJ (maybe) and Riiki who I really like when he’s played
- iworkatinitech

I saw this coming for Ceci. He was pretty bad. He's a right handed defenseman. Hopefully he can rebound.
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Oct 17 @ 1:15 PM ET
Codi ceci.... im just done with hockey . How bout that claypool kid hes a stud
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 17 @ 1:15 PM ET
Lol
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 17 @ 1:17 PM ET
(frank)!
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Oct 17 @ 1:18 PM ET
Cody Ceci? Really? Is JR running a hockey team or a charity?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
To score goals.

I realize they may not have bought out JJ without Matheson, but they should. Which would you rather have?

Matheson at 3LD and ERod/Lafferty at 3RW or

Riikola/POJ at 3LD and Hornqvist at 3RW

- Tojo.


I've been very vocal about wanting to move on from Hornqvist, but I always made it clear I don't want him moved if it meant a downgrade to the quality of the lineup and unfortunately that's what is going on. The bottom six is SUBSTANTIALLY worse.

Even with JJ gone, I don't know this team is any better defensively. The reviews on Matheson are so mixed and we will have to wait and see how he fits in, but I'm skeptical due to all the comparisons to JJ that I've read.

If you told me Simon-McCann-Horn was the third line going into next season I wouldn't be thrilled, but I'd feel a hell of a lot better about this team than I do now.

EDIT: Well, that was a waste of a post I just wrote. Now I know the defense is going to be worse.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Oct 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
Well that is certainly something.
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Oct 17 @ 1:21 PM ET
I wouldnt mind if okd jr choked on a hot dog like denslow no way he can hear analytics he sure as hell cant pass the eye test u have 3 cups ur 89 go home ur drunk
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 17 @ 1:25 PM ET
I can't wait to hear JR say how excited he is to have gotten a player like Ceci and how they felt for a long time he'd be a good fit for this team.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 17 @ 1:27 PM ET
Ah yes, Caca Peepee.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 17 @ 1:29 PM ET
Jarry better bring his A-Game at all times.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 17 @ 1:32 PM ET
To score goals.

I realize they may not have bought out JJ without Matheson, but they should. Which would you rather have?

Matheson at 3LD and ERod/Lafferty at 3RW or

Riikola/POJ at 3LD and Hornqvist at 3RW

- Tojo.


Hornqvist
Does
Not
Score
Goals
Outside
The
Top6
or
PP

#Useless3rdLiner
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 17 @ 1:33 PM ET
Hornqvist
Does
Not
Score
Goals
Outside
The
Top6
or
PP

#Useless3rdLiner

- TheGame316


Dude, does this argument even matter anymore? LOL
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 17 @ 1:38 PM ET
Dude, does this argument even matter anymore? LOL
- Rinosaur


People keep bringing up that Hornqvist was some kind of viable 3rd liner because he has a history of being a goal scorer with Sid and Geno and on the PP (With Sid and Geno) and that somehow translates into scoring on a 3rd line that is going to clearly be based on speed and centered by NOT Sid or Geno
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 17 @ 1:39 PM ET
People keep bringing up that Hornqvist was some kind of viable 3rd liner because he has a history of being a goal scorer with Sid and Geno and on the PP (With Sid and Geno) and that somehow translates into scoring on a 3rd line that is going to clearly be based on speed and centered by NOT Sid or Geno
- TheGame316


We just signed Ceci. It doesn't really matter anymore. The window is, as the kids say, dunzo.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 17 @ 1:40 PM ET
I swear, if Barnaby comes here and says we aren't even giving Ceci a chance I'm done.
Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 17 @ 1:46 PM ET
We just signed Ceci. It doesn't really matter anymore. The window is, as the kids say, dunzo.
- Rinosaur



WTFrank!?!?!? Why does Rutherford keep doing this?!?!? And why isn't someone stopping him?!?!?

If there is a silver lining, it's that the contract is only for 1 year
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Oct 17 @ 1:54 PM ET
With the little cap space we have left... We spend it on Cody Ceci.

This was a move everyone saw coming lol. At least he didnt give him a 5 year deal.

I guess this confirms the idea that Rutherford is happy with the bottom 6 and doesnt see a need to upgrade the 3rd line, especially at 3C.

Your bottom pairing guys are near $6M in cap hits and I'd be willing to bet they give us below average results. absolute insanity.
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