Disagree, Myers is exactly what the top 4 needs. So, well none of us knows what Benning is and isn’t doing, glad he still has Myers.
- Makita

We were better in the PO's with Myers in the lineup that much was apparent. His reg season numbers will improve rotating around Hughes, Schmidt and Edler.

Would you prefer two presidents trophies or one Stanley Cup?

Datsyuk has two rings, he's the man.
Bergeron has one, he's part of a shiny biatch team and can suck my left one.

- Pres.cup

As much as I dislike Boston(95% because of Marchand, and 5% because they beat us for the cup) They have been a fairly dominant team over the last decade with 3 cup appearances, and some conference finals. Bergeron has been arguably their best player during this stretch. Again, we are arguing over minute details as to who is better. Though Datsyuk is probably the better player overall, Bergeron is an elite player who is easily one of the best Two Way Players of all time, the Trophies speak for themselves.

PS Datsyuk didn't join the Triple Gold club until after the NHL decided not to allow their players to play in the Olympics. Bergeron did in in 2011 aftere winning the cup.

True, but creating high franchise players under 8 year, 1m dollar contract doesn't seem fair.....
- Pres.cup

I ran through the entire NHL, some AHL, some Junior, some Europe and fixed a bunch of the ratings/potentials. Took me like 3 hours.

Two cup rings, one he was a passenger on an elite Detroit team, and one he was the Driver on an elite Detroit team. He also only made the cup finals twice. Bergeron was a driver for their 2011 cup and has been to the cup finals three times, and could still do it again in his career, plus win more Selke Trophies. Sorry, but Bergeron and Datsyuk are probably the top 2 Two Way players of all time, some people will prefer 4 trophies to 3 and some will prefer the higher ppg average.
- Retinalz

It was pretty much all Tim Thomas after the first two Hab games in round 1.

The fact that this is a legitimate question and that he was signed to a 6m deal only last year is just awful.
- NorthNuck

I don't think its legit at all bcus there's no place or set of metrics that can properly determine a classification by # of what a NHL DMan is accurately or without drastic variances.

For example, you could take all the stats available - both general and advanced
Goals, Points, +/- Expected GF/GA, shot suppression, blocks, giveaways, zone entries/exists, who were they on the ice with/against, Corsi, PP/PK TOI, TOI situations, and they all paint such a different picture of what a Dman does well, average or poorly.

Like the differences between Erik Karlsson and Chris Tanev make it easier to determine one is an offensive Dman and the other a defensive Dman but designating them a general # based on that is flawed. Both are valuable in different ways and get paid accordingly.

I don't think its legit at all bcus there's no place or set of metrics that can properly determine a classification by # of what a NHL DMan is accurately or without drastic variances.

For example, you could take all the stats available - both general and advanced
Goals, Points, +/- Expected GF/GA, shot suppression, blocks, giveaways, zone entries/exists, who were they on the ice with/against, Corsi, PP/PK TOI, TOI situations, and they all paint such a different picture of what a Dman does well, average or poorly.

Like the differences between Erik Karlsson and Chris Tanev make it easier to determine one is an offensive Dman and the other a defensive Dman but designating them a general # based on that is flawed. Both are valuable in different ways and get paid accordingly.
- Brooks_Light

Agreed you can't always make a complete picture, but it's easy enough to take averages across the league and say "your standard 2nd pairing Dman will have possession metrics that look like this" or that offensive guys with this amount of ice time should produce at this rate, defensive guys should defend at this rate.

The best you can do is find as many comparables as you can based on ice time and difficulty of minutes and look at whether your guy is better or worse.

Doesn't matter anymore, the hand is dealt. Challenge as it stands today is how to fix some of these poor signings.
- VanHockeyGuy

MTA!!!

Hi,

I have an opinion on Jayce Hawryluk now

Some words on him, Adam Gaudette's new contract and the seeming inevitability of Micheal Ferland on LTIR, in the new blog:

https://hockeybuzz.com/bl...-Adam-Gaudette/194/108010

My granddaughter just FaceTime me, now where were we?
- Pacificgem

Gross.