He's really young playing against men now and not on top talent lines either. I don't know why you expect him to produce more. Podz strenghts now are his puck pursuit, drives and passing more then his finish at this point. I don't know why you think he'd do worse then Pearson playing with Bo.
- NuckUp

Why would he expect more? Podkolzin is a top 10 pick and his production has been brutal. Of course people should expect more

Bo was a star offensive power when he was a prospect. His skating was his minor flaw. He cleaned up his flaw very quickly entering the NHL.

I see no compatibles between the two as prospects. Bo would have killed it in the KHL and was the best player for the Canucks in the playoffs his rookie season.
- boonerbuck

Podz produced as well at his peer level. He was ranked 3rd overall in his draft year. Signing KHL deal had teams shy away. Plus he was being deployed later in his draft year between many levels of junior to pro leagues that effected his production.

Again its not a player to player comparison but that workhorse talent needs development time to produce consistently rising up levels into pro.

I've never quit or claimed to quit. Occasionally I've taken a break or posted elsewhere for a while.
- boonerbuck

Podz produced as well at his peer level. He was ranked 3rd overall in his draft year. Signing KHL deal had teams shy away. Plus he was being deployed later in his draft year between many levels of junior to pro leagues that effected his production.

Again its not a player to player comparison but that workhorse talent needs development time to produce consistently rising up levels into pro.
- NuckUp

Complete nonsense

Notice I don't pile on when others bash you but for some reason you seem to relish in creating and making sh!t up and endorsing it when repeated.

Its fine that you voice different hockey opinions. Like the bottom 6 are useless and no one wants them in a trade. We all have different views of what works for the Canucks.

Its the other stuff that you keep fueling that drives the sh!tshow. Why emulate Trump and his paranoid conspiracy theory crowd when you hate what he stands for?
- NuckUp

Sounds complicated.

He's really young playing against men now and not on top talent lines either. I don't know why you expect him to produce more. Podz strenghts now are his puck pursuit, drives and passing more then his finish at this point. I don't know why you think he'd do worse then Pearson playing with Bo.
- NuckUp

His game will be somewhat like Pearson's. Bo needs better offensive players than that.

I know he's been jerked around with his ice time and is playing against men in a pretty good league but his lack of production can't be just glossed over. I think it's definitely best to temper expectation when it comes to his offensive upside as a NHL player. People made those excuses for Virtanen as well when he junior numbers plateaued despite being a year older than his draft year. I'm not saying he'll be Jake 2.0, just that he probably won't be a guy who can create offense on his own, he'll most likely be a complementary 3rd wheel type on a scoring line.

I'd love to be wrong though.
- Nucker101

Wouldn't that be his floor projection not his ceiling? Maybe with some development time he could raise his production.

Why would he expect more? Podkolzin is a top 10 pick and his production has been brutal. Of course people should expect more
- CanuckDon

Complete nonsense
- CanuckDon

Why?

Sounds complicated.
- Marwood

You can do better.

Podz produced as well at his peer level. He was ranked 3rd overall in his draft year. Signing KHL deal had teams shy away. Plus he was being deployed later in his draft year between many levels of junior to pro leagues that effected his production.

Again its not a player to player comparison but that workhorse talent needs development time to produce consistently rising up levels into pro.
- NuckUp

If Podz was selected 3rd OA, people would be poopting bricks.

Why would he expect more? Podkolzin is a top 10 pick and his production has been brutal. Of course people should expect more
- CanuckDon

Nothing wrong with expecting more. We all do and Canucks need that. But why write Podz off without seeing how he does under proper development regimen?

- boonerbuck

I hate when people make excuses for young players/ prospects. Did I just read that because he is a hard working player his development will take longer. Like what in the actual (frank)

Why would he expect more? Podkolzin is a top 10 pick and his production has been brutal. Of course people should expect more
- CanuckDon

Come to think about it, who have the Canucks missed on when picking top 10?

OJ
JV
Hodgson

There hasn’t been many since the twins were drafted.

His game will be somewhat like Pearson's. Bo needs better offensive players than that.
- boonerbuck

Horvat was projected to be an above average 3rd line centre by the exact same armchair GM’s, he proved them wrong over time, I think Podkolzin will do the same.

If Podz was selected 3rd OA, people would be poopting bricks.

- boonerbuck

LOL Canucks don't get lotto picks they don't get that luck the other teams have. But I think they had 6 other players rated above Podz in that draft from what I read and heard.

Nothing wrong with expecting more. We all do and Canucks need that. But why right Podz off without seeing how he does under proper development regimen?
- NuckUp

It’s write off.

No one is writing him off. People are discouraged as they should be

Horvat was projected to be an above average 3rd line centre by the exact same armchair GM’s, he proved them wrong over time, I think Podkolzin will do the same.
- Makita

Nucker started it.

You fools, JB has told Podz not to play good, so he can got bought out and take Toffoli's spot on the second line.

Nucker started it.
- Marwood

I think that was our resident fat and greasy poster. He still thinks he is a 3C

Nothing wrong with expecting more. We all do and Canucks need that. But why right Podz off without seeing how he does under proper development regimen?
- NuckUp

You really think people don't want to see how he does making the next step?

It's about expectations. Some of us can't help seeing some red flags. People can claim homerun until proven otherwise with this draft selection. It's your choice. I'm skeptical and apparently many GM's were as well. Can't just hide behind the KHL contract when talking about him sliding. If he is a top 6 player with a high skillset, he'd have gone earlier(since you keep going on about his cherry picked 3oa ranking).

I hate when people make excuses for young players/ prospects. Did I just read that because he is a hard working player his development will take longer. Like what in the actual (frank)
- CanuckDon

Some scouts and analysts touched on this. "there's only so far hard work and heart can get you."

Horvat was projected to be an above average 3rd line centre by the exact same armchair GM’s, he proved them wrong over time, I think Podkolzin will do the same.
- Makita

Perhaps but there was a whole lot more showing in Bo's game back then.

His game will be somewhat like Pearson's. Bo needs better offensive players than that.
- boonerbuck

Well that's a start he could rise more. His talent already shows better playmaking and passing abilities that would compliment Bo.

Horvat was projected to be an above average 3rd line centre by the exact same armchair GM’s, he proved them wrong over time, I think Podkolzin will do the same.
- Makita

What a lot of sceptical Canuck fans at the time(myself included) overlooked, was how great Bo's upward trajectory was, even during his draft season. I believe he was projected to be more of a mid or late first rounder after the first half of the OHL season, but then he took off down the stretch and had a great playoffs too. If he had those numbers from day one of the OHL season, it's possible that he may not have even been available for the Canucks to select. Then he built off of that success and had an even better season next year in the OHL.

Guys like Petey, Boeser and Hughes also improved their play and production the year after being drafted.

Meanwhile guys like Jake and Juolevi(also Jensen and Shinkaruk before them) didn't really improve production and level of play during their draft+1 seasons and people made excuses for them when in reality the were early red flags that they may not live up to their draft status.

It's less black and white with Pod since he's in a men's league and was bouncing between leagues last year, but you have to admit, so far he's not exactly putting up the numbers you'd hope he would, even considering the context.

Again, not saying he won't make it into the NHL, just that his upside should be questioned.