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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 20 @ 2:07 PM ET
The effects of losing Tanev and Stecher won't really affect the D now that we have brought Schmidt in. Stecher's minutes can be rounded out hopefully by a deserving AHL guy like Rafferty.

Big question is can Holtby/Demko handle Marky's load. lol

Still say we move up a few more spots next season.

- LordHumungous


Bold, Schmidt is going to help a lot but I think you are underselling Stetcher, overselling whoever our AHLer is.

I also think Hughes looks worse next to Myers compared to Tanev. As I assume Edler Schmidt will be our shutdown pair.

I agree that goaltending likely takes a hit. Luckily we've got an improved offense to overcome those deficiencies....

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 20 @ 2:09 PM ET
Bold, Schmidt is going to help a lot but I think you are underselling Stetcher, overselling whoever our AHLer is.

I also think Hughes looks worse next to Myers compared to Tanev. As I assume Edler Schmidt will be our shutdown pair.

I agree that goaltending likely takes a hit. Luckily we've got an improved offense to overcome those deficiencies....

- belcherbd

Surprisingly Hughes has better numbers w Myers than Tanev
bloatedhefty
Location: Fat Like a Goalie
Joined: 04.19.2017

Oct 20 @ 2:10 PM ET
Lol, it’s my shtick, every time I read Benning bashing I will come with a rebuttal
- Makita


Why wouldn’t you? I mean, JB’s built one of the most expensive and yet most useless bottom six in the entire NHL. To dismantle it he’ll need to throw away 1st round picks to do so.

That acumen must be defended at all costs.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 20 @ 2:16 PM ET
Why wouldn’t you? I mean, JB’s built one of the most expensive and yet most useless bottom six in the entire NHL. To dismantle it he’ll need to throw away 1st round picks to do so.

That acumen must be defended at all costs.

- bloatedhefty

That’s your take bloated, I like Beagle and Roussel you don’t, tough titty
Motte is an excellent player for the expectations of his roll.

Eriksson is the only blemish on his fantastic tenure as the best GM in Canucks history.

Just be patient and send Eriksson to the Comets, no need to hyperbole over adding a 1st..
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 20 @ 2:16 PM ET
I hope you have a fantastic Tuesday.
- Marwood


Thanks dad. Its a beautiful day out today, not much to complain about
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 20 @ 2:17 PM ET
The effects of losing Tanev and Stecher won't really affect the D now that we have brought Schmidt in. Stecher's minutes can be rounded out hopefully by a deserving AHL guy like Rafferty.

Big question is can Holtby/Demko handle Marky's load. lol

Still say we move up a few more spots next season.

- LordHumungous


Why is he deserving?
Is it because he put up points, at a similar rate as Derrick Poulliot did in AHL last season and played a similar defensive game as him?
I would think more deserving AHL players would be Brisebois and Chatfield.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 20 @ 2:22 PM ET
The thing with Marleau that people erroneously leave out is that Carolina had to buy him out of the contract – that was part of him accepting that trade, so he could sign elsewhere. So that's a big chunk of money spent without actually getting an NHL body.

LE's 6 mil AAV is slightly different when it's only a 2.5 mil payout each year. Teams that aren't anywhere near the cap and are keeping a tight checkbook might care more about the dollar amount than cap hit.

Not saying getting rid of LE is easy, just that the Marleau comparable isn't straight across.

- NewYorkNuck


Which team isn't near the cap floor?

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
Surprisingly Hughes has better numbers w Myers than Tanev
- CanuckDon

Which numbers are you referring to?
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
Here's the key. Are we better now than last season? Is it okay to regress next season or maybe longer?
- VanHockeyGuy

For me the obvious answer is no, we’re not, and yes, it’s fine to regress a bit given the young ages of the core players.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 20 @ 2:31 PM ET
Which numbers are you referring to?
- neem55

GF%, controlling shots. Read something about their impact together
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
Why is he deserving?
Is it because he put up points, at a similar rate as Derrick Poulliot did in AHL last season and played a similar defensive game as him?
I would think more deserving AHL players would be Brisebois and Chatfield.

- Reubenkincade

It really does blow my mind that anyone can reduce defending to +/- and points.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 20 @ 2:33 PM ET
For me the obvious answer is no, we’re not, and yes, it’s fine to regress a bit given the young ages of the core players.
- Pacificgem

Regression is fine when you have so many elite mentors in the room.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
Surprisingly Hughes has better numbers w Myers than Tanev
- CanuckDon


Caveat being that they were only really deployed together when down and pushing to score. I don't hate the idea of the pairing, I just think they'll give up more goals against.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
GF%, controlling shots. Read something about their impact together
- CanuckDon


Ya, it's hard to tease apart. They put up really good numbers together, but they're mostly paired together in the final minutes of a game when they're down/the other team is defending more.

It'd be interesting to see a year of them together.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
Caveat being that they were only really deployed together when down and pushing to score. I don't hate the idea of the pairing, I just think they'll give up more goals against.
- belcherbd


Jinx.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 20 @ 2:35 PM ET
That’s your take bloated, I like Beagle and Roussel you don’t, tough titty
Motte is an excellent player for the expectations of his roll.

Eriksson is the only blemish on his fantastic tenure as the best GM in Canucks history.

Just be patient and send Eriksson to the Comets, no need to hyperbole over adding a 1st..

- Makita


Benning is responsible for bringing in Green and Stetcher, no?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 20 @ 2:36 PM ET
Why is he deserving?
Is it because he put up points, at a similar rate as Derrick Poulliot did in AHL last season and played a similar defensive game as him?
I would think more deserving AHL players would be Brisebois and Chatfield.

- Reubenkincade


Everyone just skipping over Juolevi? He's the most NHL ready/deserving.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
Caveat being that they were only really deployed together when down and pushing to score. I don't hate the idea of the pairing, I just think they'll give up more goals against.
- belcherbd

Yes also true
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
Jinx.
- NewYorkNuck




We all clearly read Harman's stuff.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 20 @ 2:38 PM ET
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 20 @ 2:39 PM ET
Everyone just skipping over Juolevi? He's the most NHL ready/deserving.
- NewYorkNuck



Injury prone, unproven. But yes.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 20 @ 2:41 PM ET
Injury prone, unproven. But yes.
- VanHockeyGuy


All the AHL guys are
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 20 @ 2:41 PM ET
Everyone just skipping over Juolevi? He's the most NHL ready/deserving.
- NewYorkNuck


Won't play the right side though.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 20 @ 2:42 PM ET
All the AHL guys are
- NewYorkNuck


Last time I checked he played in the bubble.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 20 @ 2:45 PM ET
Benning is responsible for bringing in Green and Stetcher, no?
- belcherbd

That is true, and although I haven’t been a fan of either, I have complimented both this past season.

And also my personal view of either person’s capabilities doesn’t mean that I have to trash Benning, he used Stecher to the best of Stecher abilities and let him walk in the end.

He still likes Green, so far, so good enough for me. I would certainly like Gallant over Green, but it is what it is.
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