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- hereticpride

There was a time when Lindblom and NAK looked like longshots too.

Wouldn't close the door on any of the youngsters from the past 4-5 drafts.
- Tomahawk

Not closing the door, but not holding my breath either. Re Lindblom, by his draft + 2 year he was getting noticed and playing pretty well. Also both he and NAK weren’t getting injured all the time like Rubtsov.

I hope he proves me wrong, I just don’t think it’s going to happen.

Yeah He really told me didnt he; what a history lesson. Flyers in good company.
- login

In my best Creepy Joe Biden voice "C'mon man!" You were TKO'd by Bill over your understandable but misguided frustration about your favorite hockey team. The referee left the ring. The fans left the arena. No one else is around and you're still fighting it, unaware where everyone went. Like I said, take the L and get over it.

In my best Creepy Joe Biden voice "C'mon man!" You were TKO'd by Bill over your understandable but misguided frustration about your favorite hockey team. The referee left the ring. The fans left the arena. No one else is around and you're still fighting it, unaware where everyone went. Like I said, take the L and get over it.
- Letterkenney

TKOed how? Please elaborate. Bill comes off on that post a whiney grown man; deflecting his childhood teams lack of championships. None of what he said has any bearing on the fact the flyers haven't won poop since 1975; does it? In fact it was a fluff piece.

Focus on the flyers failures not what other teams have or have not done. I bet he still has his Bobby Clarke orange blade street hockey stick? 45 years and counting.

You're right. Every franchise in the NHL sucks because they've had long stretch of Cup futility at some point in their history. Here are some marketing slogan ideas.

Philadelphia Flyers: The NHL's 3rd fluffiest record since our last Cup 45 years ago!

Toronto Maple Leafs: 53 years of fluff and counting! (Or "Saving our fans the heartbreak of losing in the Cup Finals for 53 years")

New York Rangers: We're No 1 (1-for-80) since the FDR administration.

St. Louis Blues: We brought back the fluff this year (sorry for breaking that 52-year fluff streak).

Chicago Blackhawks: Working our next half century of fluff after that mini-dynasty.

Pittsburgh Penguins: Two bankruptcies, two tanking eras, two league-driven bailouts, one threat to move to Kansas City and one taxpayer-funded arena later, we're goin' back to our roots! Our future is fluffier than Jags' hair in the 90s! (Who needs first-round picks, anyway?)

Carolina Hurricanes: We're 1-for-41; look out Rangers!

Buffalo Sabres: Call us Fluffalo (0-for-50).

Washington Capitals: In the Beltway, 1-for-47 is quite OK.

Vancouver Canucks: 0-for-50 BUT we reached Game 7 -- twice the fluff!

San Jose Sharks: Celebrating 29 fluffy years of existence.

Montreal Canadiens: 1 Cup since the Reagan administration; C'est la guerre!

New York Islanders: Celebrating 37 years since the end of our dynasty and 26 years since the retirement of the last active NHL players from our dynasty.. but most of all celebrating 14 years since the firing of Mike Milbury (an occasion for celebration coast-to-coast).

Anaheim Ducks: We're a mighty 1-for-27, celebrating 13 years of unbroken fliuff.

Dallas Stars: 1-for-53, from Minny to Big D! (The fluff is bigger in Texas, though)
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Boston Bruins: 2nd fluffiest record in the NHL since Philly's last Cup. We're 1-for-47 since the Nixon Administration.

Colorado Avalanche: 0-for-16 in Quebec, 2-for-15 in Denver (but up to 19 straight years of fluff... but only four years since our last Cup team player retired).

Columbus Blue Jackets: Misfiring the Cannon for 20 years! (Or "We've made it past the first round once!")

New Jersey Devils: Celebrating 17 years since our last parking lot Cup parade (Draft Lottery Mania ran wild in 7 of the last 8 years... we picked first twice!).

Edmonton Oilers: The Cup well ran dry 30 years ago (Subhead: We sure got a lot of first overall picks, and some even panned out!)

Arizona Coyotes: O-for-the-Peg, 0-for-the-Desert (Bring back the Avco Cup!)

Calgary Flames: Saddle up for 0-for-31 (1-for-48 overall).

LA Kings: 45 regal years of royal fluff; now on a 6-year fluff streak (4 times missing the playoffs, twice out in the first round).

Tampa Bay Lightning: Lightning CAN strike twice (twice every 27 years of team history; 16 years in between first and 2nd).

Detroit Red Wings: 42 years of fluff between Gordie and Stevie Y; now on a 12-year fluff streak (Filppula is the final still-active NHLer, although Datsyuk is still active in the KHL).

Florida Panthers: The sun has yet to set on our 0-for-27 quest for the Cup.

Minnesota Wild: 20 wild years of fluff, zero years of Cups.

Nashville Predators: 22 years, 1 general manager, 0 Cups.

Ottawa Senators: Our nakesake ancestors won the Cup 11 times! (But our incarnation is 0-for-27 and counting)

Winnipeg Jets: Let's pretend Atlanta (0-for-11) never happened and we're just 0-for-9.

Vegas Golden Knights: We'll still be Expansion Draft exempt after four years of existence. (We're still a young franchise. But's it's just too bad our Finals appearance our inaugural season was nothing but fluff).

Seattle Kraken: We're not fluffy yet!
- bmeltzer

I still feel like Liane to Philly is going happen. You don’t cake your pants on the PP through the entire playoffs and not change anything up.
- hereticpride

Let him and his agent run their mouths.

Then COME, COME TO PHILLY AT LESS THAN MARKET VALUE

Don’t argue with stupidity. You will lose to experience every time.

Don’t argue with stupidity. You will lose to experience every time.
- Peter Richards

Peter Dikk go Flyers. 1975

I did the average analysis and somewhat to my surprise, I have to confess being TKoed as well.

I looked at the # of years a team has been in the league. I started the clock at 1968 because of the relevance to Flyers.

(I am probably off with the inception dates of some teams by a year or so. But it should not make a difference. Also, some teams may be lucky to win a cup quickly after entering league, but that should be evened out by others who have not been in the league long enough to win).

Altogether, 31 teams (before the Kraken) have been in the league for a total of 1249 "team years", during which there have been 52 cups awarded.

This makes for an average wait of 24 years. Flyers are right in the middle, with 2 cups in 52 years (average 26).

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Peter Dikk go Flyers. 1975
- login

Lol so petty.

Yea, you were the one that questioned if every team goes through it. I gave recent examples of ours that did not.
- ClaudeFather

It was a statement of how spoiled we’ve been, not an argument...

Unpopular opinion: Flyers jerseys have always been ugly.
- Tomahawk

You know what? I loved when we changed to black. I want me a LeClair with a giant “ A “ on the left shoulder!!

....but than I loved when we changed back to orange in time for the 2010 Stanley Cup final!!!

the best flyers jersey were the one lindros wore

the best flyers jersey it he one lindros wore
- 2Real

There has been a couple good ones over the years. But the retro one just looks weird. Maybe time change that.

Peter Dikk go Flyers. 1975
- login

So no new bozak pitches then!

Nah.

But again educational for me to read again and be reminded of some fundamental issues.

I would love a further breakdown of this list of futility by more variables. Such as controlling for salary cap expenditure (did every team have as generous a patron(s) as we did?), % of seats occupied during games (I suspect this will be inversely correlated), % of ticket revenue coming from corporate suites (I suspect this will be inversely correlated).

There is another thing I don't have the time to do. What is the average time between cups post NHL existence? Bills analysis focuses on the gap years. But in between the gaps years are clusters/dynasties. For example, our average cup drought is 26 odd years (2 cups in 52 years). For Pens (same inception date) its ~10 years.

How far away are we from league average? Of course, here we need to control for how many years the team has been in the league.
- PT21

Over complicating something that is very simple.

TKOed how? Please elaborate. Bill comes off on that post a whiney grown man; deflecting his childhood teams lack of championships. None of what he said has any bearing on the fact the flyers haven't won poop since 1975; does it? In fact it was a fluff piece.

Focus on the flyers failures not what other teams have or have not done. I bet he still has his Bobby Clarke orange blade street hockey stick? 45 years and counting.
- login

Dude, the arena lights have been turned off. You can stop fighting. Since you're having trouble, I'll help you out with an explanation of your getting TKO'd.

Your assertion that the Flyers considerable accomplishments without having won the cup since 1975 is "fluff" was blown out of the water by Bill's factual analysis of all the other teams' lack of a cup, or extended periods of not wining the cup. If the historical landscape is very much the same for everyone, than the exception of the Flyers successes being just "fluff" is dead wrong. Either every other team's history is "fluff" or no team's history is "fluff". You can't have it both ways. Apparently, such simple conclusions are difficult for you. You're acting like a cat backed into a corner.

Give it up, buddy. Take the L and move on.

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- hereticpride

Gold, Jerry, gold!

TKOed how? Please elaborate. Bill comes off on that post a whiney grown man; deflecting his childhood teams lack of championships. None of what he said has any bearing on the fact the flyers haven't won poop since 1975; does it? In fact it was a fluff piece.

Focus on the flyers failures not what other teams have or have not done. I bet he still has his Bobby Clarke orange blade street hockey stick? 45 years and counting.
- login

I wish I still had mine

I did the average analysis and somewhat to my surprise, I have to confess being TKoed as well.

I looked at the # of years a team has been in the league. I started the clock at 1968 because of the relevance to Flyers.

(I am probably off with the inception dates of some teams by a year or so. But it should not make a difference. Also, some teams may be lucky to win a cup quickly after entering league, but that should be evened out by others who have not been in the league long enough to win).

Altogether, 31 teams (before the Kraken) have been in the league for a total of 1249 "team years", during which there have been 52 cups awarded.

This makes for an average wait of 24 years. Flyers are right in the middle, with 2 cups in 52 years (average 26).


- PT21[/img]

well done, sir

Dude, the arena lights have been turned off. You can stop fighting. Since you're having trouble, I'll help you out with an explanation of your getting TKO'd.

Your assertion that the Flyers considerable accomplishments without having won the cup since 1975 is "fluff" was blown out of the water by Bill's factual analysis of all the other teams' lack of a cup, or extended periods of not wining the cup. If the historical landscape is very much the same for everyone, than the exception of the Flyers successes being just "fluff" is dead wrong. Either every other team's history is "fluff" or no team's history is "fluff". You can't have it both ways. Apparently, such simple conclusions are difficult for you. You're acting like a cat backed into a corner.

Give it up, buddy. Take the L and move on.
- Letterkenney

1975. Again what does the other teams failure have to do with the flyers? Just a diversion.

I wish I still had mine
- Scoob

ebay has them i bet

1975. Again what does the other teams failure have to do with the flyers? Just a diversion.
- login

Keep going, buddy. Keep going!

I did the average analysis and somewhat to my surprise, I have to confess being TKoed as well.

I looked at the # of years a team has been in the league. I started the clock at 1968 because of the relevance to Flyers.

(I am probably off with the inception dates of some teams by a year or so. But it should not make a difference. Also, some teams may be lucky to win a cup quickly after entering league, but that should be evened out by others who have not been in the league long enough to win).

Altogether, 31 teams (before the Kraken) have been in the league for a total of 1249 "team years", during which there have been 52 cups awarded.

This makes for an average wait of 24 years. Flyers are right in the middle, with 2 cups in 52 years (average 26).


- PT21[/img]

Excellent analysis, PT. Maybe login should read this. NVM. It won't help.

Excellent analysis, PT. Maybe fluffy should read this. NVM. It won't help.
- Letterkenney