The fashion sense on this team is just appalling. I was hoping they'd sign Lundqvist to help with that. Matthews is the worst offender too. It's really unfortunate.
- Zezel

Big Joe will clean that poop up too.

Dermott is the guy I've arbitrarily chosen to hate no matter what happens, so (frank) Dermott. Get rid of him.
- Zezel

That dang rubber duckie Speedo

Big Joe will clean that poop up too.
- The Law

Joe "I am a new tie wearing" Thornton?

Big Joe will clean that poop up too.
- The Law

Joe Thornton? The guy who looks homeless?

Joe Thornton? The guy who looks homeless?
- PlatosRepucklic

That's still fashion though, right?

I predicted 1.85M for 2 years, so it’s a bargain as far as I’m concerned.

His usage is similar but Dermott out preformed him a bit...

So we are probably looking at 1-1.2M.

But maybe Dubas is saying “we need you at 1M or under or we have to trade you”

A few hundred K less to stay around family and his GF in Ontario makes sense. At least during a year like this.
- Santo_44

My guess.... Dermott signs a 3 year/$3.9M deal. 1.3M per season is fair for him..

I predicted 1.85M for 2 years, so it’s a bargain as far as I’m concerned.
- Steven_Seagull

I was hoping for 1.5M, but I'm good with 1.645M

Yeah, it's not that he's not worth it . . . it's that he hasn't EARNED it. A half season is not much to base that much on.

It's a pittance when you say . . . I expected $1.3, so it's not like it's preposterous. It's that it keeps happening and it adds up. Look, if a guy like Sorensen is making $1.5, then Mikheyev at 1.65 isn't that bad or anything.


In trying to articulate it . . . . at some point, it seems like Dubas is always paying 20% more than expected unless he's dipping in the bargain bin.

Matthews at 11.6, when most people thought 10.5 is 21% more.
Marner at 10.9, when most people thought 9 is 21% more.
Muzzin's only about 15% over, so maybe that's a good deal?
- Monkeypunk

Any time you pay for more than one year for a player of Mikheyev age and the fact he was a rookie you will need to pay for potential.

My guess.... Dermott signs a 3 year/$3.9M deal. 1.3M per season is fair for him..
- PatC80

Rielly, Brodie, Muzzin long term. Holl for another 2 years.

We'll want to keep room for the option of re signing Lehtonen and making room for Sandin/Lil next year.

Add in the potential of Hamilton hitting FA...

Rielly, Brodie, Muzzin long term. Holl for another 2 years.

We'll want to keep room for the option of re signing Lehtonen and making room for Sandin/Lil next year.

Add in the potential of Hamilton hitting FA...
- Santo_44

I don't see Holl on this team much longer. Also, I think Dermott has more upside and will only get better..

Didn't Bingo say that Carolina will likely re-sign Hamilton?

I don't see Holl on this team much longer. Also, I think Dermott has more upside and will only get better..

Didn't Bingo say that Carolina will likely re-sign Hamilton?
- PatC80

Think Dubas disagrees by the sounds of it

Bingo is the GM of the Canes? Considering the Canes dont do very well in the finance department I think Hamiltons contract is very much up in the air.

I don't see Holl on this team much longer. Also, I think Dermott has more upside and will only get better..

Didn't Bingo say that Carolina will likely re-sign Hamilton?
- PatC80

Not a huge Holl fan either. His play seemed to get worse down the stretch rather than better. I'd take Dermott over Holl. At least there is some upside there, and most likely for less than Holl is making

Think Dubas disagrees by the sounds of it

Bingo is the GM of the Canes? Considering the Canes dont do very well in the finance department I think Hamiltons contract is very much up in the air.
- Santo_44

To be fair, Dubas has to say that. Which GM would actively say we are looking to rid our selves of that player?

No, Bingo is not the GM. I didn't say that either. Since Dundon took over in Carolina, they have been spending more.. The report that the Leafs asked for Hamilton for Andersen and Carolina said no, must mean something

Not a huge Holl fan either. His play seemed to get worse down the stretch rather than better. I'd take Dermott over Holl. At least there is some upside there, and most likely for less than Holl is making
- PlatosRepucklic

Playing as the number one D man while Muzzin and Rielly are hurt will do that to you.

To be fair, Dubas has to say that. Which GM would actively say we are looking to rid our selves of that player?

No, Bingo is not the GM. I didn't say that either. Since Dundon took over in Carolina, they have been spending more.. The report that the Leafs asked for Hamilton for Andersen and Carolina said no, must mean something
- PatC80

Holl is a good player at a good cap hit.

Dubas seems to like him as well.

I think he is here to stay unless they get a better bargain or another top pair RHD.

Holl is a good player at a good cap hit.

Dubas seems to like him as well.

I think he is here to stay unless they get a better bargain or another top pair RHD.
- Santo_44

Ok sure, Holl has a good cap hit, but I still don't think he belongs in the top 4.

I think it's pretty good for 2 years. Just surprised they didn't opt for 1 yr ...this walks him into UFA in 22'.
- The Law

Likely an exposed guy for the expansion

Ugh a little too much
1.6m per.
At least its 2 years.

I predicted 1.85M for 2 years, so it’s a bargain as far as I’m concerned.
- Steven_Seagull

"I predicted $1.645M for 2 years"- Roger

Rielly, Brodie, Muzzin long term. Holl for another 2 years.

We'll want to keep room for the option of re signing Lehtonen and making room for Sandin/Lil next year.

Add in the potential of Hamilton hitting FA...
- Santo_44

3 years, unfortunately.

I don't see Holl on this team much longer. Also, I think Dermott has more upside and will only get better..

Didn't Bingo say that Carolina will likely re-sign Hamilton?
- PatC80

We can only hope.

Ugh a little too much
1.6m per.
At least its 2 years.
- Fakepartofme

I was surprised by it to be honest. I thought it would be 1.2ish. Dubas never seems to get a crazy deal on our own contracts.

I was surprised by it to be honest. I thought it would be 1.2ish. Dubas never seems to get a crazy deal on our own contracts.
- Aaron_85

He's a regular jim benning

"I predicted $1.645M for 2 years"- Roger
- GreatGigInTheSky

Lol