Meh. He's not wrong.
- AdamFrench

Yeah, but he's also not right.

Ladd maybe? Islanders could use Hoffman if he wanted to go there.
- Aaron_85

Huh?

Isles aren't signing Hoffman or anybody else. They have 8.9 million in space to sign Barzal and Pulock. They're atleast 4-5 million short.

Ladd and Boychuk both have contracts that are buyout proof. Buyout saves less then a demotion. They need to pay a team to take one of those contracts before they can sign their own guys.

Meh. He's not wrong.
- AdamFrench

About it hurting more than we realize? How so?

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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Hearing former #FlaPanthers asst GM Eric Joyce is joining the #Leafs in a role expected to be Director of Hockey Strategy.
- GreatGigInTheSky

That's good news... Eric Joyce and Mackenzie Weegar are really close.. Maybe, I don't know.. I may have made that up, but still.

Looking at the list of arb's ....the only team that could maybe think about using a buyout would be the Isles after Pulock's arbitration.

But, they don't have many good buyout candidates. They are probably in the midst of begging Detroit and Boychuks agent to help them out of their cap crunch.
- The Law

I'll take Wilde, Wahlstrom and a 1st. 🤣

About it hurting more than we realize? How so?
- The Law

It's because if we had Brown, we couldn't afford Matthews.. Not having Matthews could hurt, like a lot.

Huh?

Isles aren't signing Hoffman or anybody else. They have 8.9 million in space to sign Barzal and Pulock. They're atleast 4-5 million short.

Ladd and Boychuk both have contracts that are buyout proof. Buyout saves less then a demotion. They need to pay a team to take one of those contracts before they can sign their own guys.
- The Law

I did no research on the Islanders before making my reply. I was only aware of Boychuk's buyout proof contract. Was figuring Ladd might be a candidate and that money would help sign Hoffman - who I think will have to settle for a 1 year 3 to 5 million dollar deal somewhere.

About it hurting more than we realize? How so?
- The Law

Because they had to trade the original "rebuild" prospects before they could even sniff any success.

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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1h
Hearing former #FlaPanthers asst GM Eric Joyce is joining the #Leafs in a role expected to be Director of Hockey Strategy.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Max didn't get the job?

I'll take Wilde, Wahlstrom and a 1st. 🤣
- gergeswillems

I hope you're right. It'll make the pain of Marleau's cost sting a little less.

I'll take Wilde, Wahlstrom and a 1st. 🤣
- gergeswillems

You'll take Boychuk and Ho-Sang for a 7th and like it

See Traikos?

Michael Traikos
@Michael_Traikos
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#Leafs losing Brown, Kapanen and Johnsson (before they won a round, nevermind a championship) hurts them more than some realize.

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- GreatGigInTheSky

Step 1 for building a good team, win a championship

Step 2, trade middling support players for treasure trove of assets

Step 3, now you're a contender

You'll take Boychuk and Ho-Sang for a 7th and like it
- PatC80

Ho Sang? 🤮

Step 1 for building a good team, win a championship

Step 2, trade middling support players for treasure trove of assets

Step 3, now you're a contender
- TheMussel

What about Murrency and Botcoin?

Max didn't get the job?
- gergeswillems

During the interview process, Max's response to every question was "Jagr and Hintz"

Because they had to trade the original "rebuild" prospects before they could even sniff any success.
- AdamFrench

We didn't realize that?

Traikos is being dramatic ....

If he's regurgitating the narrative that they should've had more success by now ....yawn, we all know that. So it's not "more than we realize".

If he's saying that it's even worse than that ...then I have no (frank)ing idea what he's talking about.

Win or lose those contracts were moving.

Ho Sang? 🤮
- gergeswillems

Yeah, him too.,

I hope you're right. It'll make the pain of Marleau's cost sting a little less.
- The Law

Seriously though no team should want that Boychuk contract.

Step 1 for building a good team, win a championship

Step 2, trade middling support players for treasure trove of assets

Step 3, now you're a contender
- TheMussel

Perfect.

Brown got 3.6 x 3. MEH

Meh. He's not wrong.
- AdamFrench

Thank you for telling it like it is brah.

During the interview process, Max's response to every question was "Jagr and Hintz"
- PatC80

Rumour has it Max became angry and told the Leafs to take a Hintz and Faksa off. He applied to be the team doctor but he didn't get that job either. It now appears Max's chances of working for the Leafs is Muzzin'd in the water.

Ho Sang? 🤮
- gergeswillems

I would put Ho Sang in charge of the draft. He'd pick himself 1st overall every year.

Seriously though no team should want that Boychuk contract.
- gergeswillems

His cash is low and his AAV is high. He's an oft-injured 3rd pairing guy. You can pick guys like him up for 700k right now.

So for Detroit is sacrificing about 4 milly in cash and the Cap space for two years. What's the ask?

Marleau cost the Leafs a 1st and he was 1 yr of 6.25 Cap space and about 4 million in cash.

I would put Ho Sang in charge of the draft. He'd pick himself 1st overall every year.
- AdamFrench

That's fine. It's not like the Wings would be picking there anyway. Even with the worst record.