A previous comment expects Mikheyev to score 40 pts for this to qualify as a good deal? Get real - this is a guy who scored at a .6 clip - near the exact same as Connor Brown in way less playing time, and look what Brown's ask is from Ottawa - 4.8. Those guys get paid 3.5-4.5M a season. Soup is on and it's ridiculously cheap. Leafs only exist competitive because it's basically the only team people will take crazy homer deals for. Spezza, Thornton, Simmonds are all players still worth at least 2M a year. Read an article comparing Thornton to Ray Bourque to the Avs to get his cup earlier - but you know what Bourque didn't do? Take money off the table. Toronto will need to land those 1 year deals for aged but competent stars over and over and over again to stay cap competitive, and if they don't *actually win*, I don't know how long those players will keep taking the cut to chase a 50+ year old impossible goal, irrespective of what bed sheets they slept under as kids.
- Bartacus

Some of what you say is true but those vets aren’t signing on to “actually win”. They’ve all been around long enough to know there aren’t guarantees and have been on teams that were supposed to win or go deep. Remember that with Spezza?

They’re signing on to competitive teams and it’s likely that, with the core in place now, that the Leafs will stay competitive for a while.

Using what market comparables?

Sorry but if you are going to irrationally constantly hate Dubas signings with zero effort to even prove why then that’s the label you get from me.

Use comparables. Show me why, instead of just saying “he should of got him for less”

Why? What market comparables show is that he should of gotten less?
- Santo_44

Exactly what signings have I recently irrationally hated? Get a grip Show me these examples.

Literally every outlet was saying they didnt think Mik would get a good arb result for himself due to his tenure. He played 39 games in the NHL so far FFS and he sucked when he came back. He didnt exactly have a rock solid case for a huge payday.

You realize that you can comment, and have a measured opinion without being a fanboy/hater right?

Show me your market comparables.

Show me why you are saying Mikheyev should of gotten less.

It’s really not hard to explain your complaining.

You are irrationally complaining until you do otherwise.

You are too lazy to even do that. Instead you will try to tarnish my name by talking bad about me to other posters.

I’m not surprised, it’s the easy way out.
- Santo_44

Jesus.
I provided an opinion a while ago saying i was hoping hed get signed for a little less but it didnt occur, said oh well life goes on. No complaining.
But you like to argue everyones opinion and then toss out little insults.
So you do you.
Trust me, no one could tarnish your name anymore than you already have.
Have a great day.

Exactly what signings have I recently irrationally hated? Get a grip

Lietterally every outlet was saying they didnt think Mik would get a good arb result for himself due to his tenure. He played 39 games in the NHL so far FFS and he sucked when he came back. He didnt exactly have a rock solid case for a huge payday.
- Archaic

1.65 is a good result for him? In terms of money it’s horrible for him.

Again use market comparables to show me why he should of gotten LESS than 1.65M x 2 years.

You seem pretty admit that he should of gotten less.

I’m very curious how you’ve gotten to this conclusion.

If you didn’t use any market comparables how are you supposed to know what number he should of gotten? Guessing? Clinging on to the herd of sheep that complain about every contract?

Jesus.
I provided an opinion a while ago saying i was hoping hed get signed for a little less but it didnt occur, said oh well life goes on. No complaining.
But you like to argue everyones opinion and then toss out little insults.
So you do you.
Trust me, no one could tarnish your name anymore than you already have.
Have a great day.
- Fakepartofme

Annnnnnddd there it is.

The lazy way out.

All I ask if instead of irrationally complaining, to actually use facts to support your answer. For one (frank)ing time

But you don’t. You just complain, complain, complain.

Have a good day man.

1.65 is a good result for him? In terms of money it’s horrible for him.

Again use market comparables to show me why he should of gotten LESS than 1.65M x 2 years.

You seem pretty admit that he should of gotten less.

I’m very curious how you’ve gotten to this conclusion.
- Santo_44

I think 1.65M is fair for him. It's pretty much what I predicted a few blogs back.

Then again, I also think he'll be an important piece for the Leafs for the next 2 years.

Rielly
Mikheyev
Matthews
Dermott
Robertson

Marner and Nylander = average speed
Is Vesey fast?

I would like to see Korshkov in the lineup
- mr.sir

I dont recall him having stand out speed, but ive only seen in a few games.
I dont believe he is slow, so i would say average.

I think 1.65M is fair for him. It's pretty much what I predicted a few blogs back.

Then again, I also think he'll be an important piece for the Leafs for the next 2 years.
- Scabeh

Its fair for sure. Would have preferred a little less, but what can you do.
If he can play in the top 6 regularly then it all works out.

Well Mr 30 seconds, you may have also heard that’s the way they like it. (I read that somewhere.)
- Canada Cup

Brother, Someone is lying to you.

That's my point. This team exists competitive to chase fairytales because it screws good players out of money while overpaying its stars. Not to say you don't take advantage of it, mind you. Maybe Henrik Lundqvist will be the 700K goalie Leafs will need next year.
- Bartacus

Stars aren’t overpaid. Top end talent gets top end money and everybody else is pretty much replaceable and fights for what’s left. Teams and agents understand this and negotiate accordingly. The tricky part is sorting out who might turn into top end talent and paying based on projected production.

Its fair for sure. Would have preferred a little less, but what can you do.
If he can play in the top 6 regularly then it all works out.
- Fakepartofme

Before he moved to Toronto, Mekheyev was playing for Bob Hartley in Omsk.

Hartley freaking loved him. Told everybody he was a good fit in the NHL.

He was right. He's a good player.

Brother, Someone is lying to you.
- bixll

For what I’m paying impossible.

I think 1.65M is fair for him. It's pretty much what I predicted a few blogs back.

Then again, I also think he'll be an important piece for the Leafs for the next 2 years.
- Scabeh

I agree.

I used the athletic article as reference that layed it all out.

If he wasn’t a PKer I’d say he would of gotten what Sven Andrigetto got on his 2 year deal.( 17 points in 44 games)

1.4x2 years and that was 4 years ago when the cap was lower. So in today’s cap that’s probably higher than Mikhyeves to begin with.

Also what goes unnoticed is he had zero PP time...and historically 5v5 scoring pays better.

Mikheyev took less than he would of gotten on a 2 year deal.

Would of it of been smarter to do a 1 year deal and save 500K in cap space? I don’t really think so considering Hyman is a FA next offseason.

Its fair for sure. Would have preferred a little less, but what can you do.
If he can play in the top 6 regularly then it all works out.
- Fakepartofme

In my mind, he's more of a middle 6 guy.

On a broader note, I know it's October and the earliest we may see hockey is January, so we all need to kill time, but I think filling out lines at this point is not the best use of time.

I think the bottom two lines will be jumbled regularly throughout the season, as well as the 2nd line wingers.

Top 2 lines will be mixed as needed.

I think we should all just start talking politics until everybody calms down a bit.

Just realizing that as soon as the World Series is over by potentially early next week, All we have is the NFL for a few months!

Can we at least get some KHL games or other European league games on our Canadian sports networks. Obviously the games would be on at wee hrs of the morning but we could get the recorded versions on our prime times. Be nice to just see some sort of hockey on TV and not just old games from the 80's.
I don't mind NFL but I'm far from a die hard.

I think we should all just start talking politics until everybody calms down a bit.
- Canada Cup

1.65 is a good result for him? In terms of money it’s horrible for him.

Again use market comparables to show me why he should of gotten LESS than 1.65M x 2 years.

You seem pretty admit that he should of gotten less.

I’m very curious how you’ve gotten to this conclusion.
- Santo_44

You are going off the deepend. I would have liked it to be a little less, and you jump on only that comment. You are right, it was the most perfect contract ever that existed. Why anyone dare say its a little more then id have liked considering the cap crunch.

I havent seen your examples yet of contracts I irrationally hated, where are they?

I think we should all just start talking politics until everybody calms down a bit.
- Canada Cup

Just realizing that as soon as the World Series is over by potentially early next week, All we have is the NFL for a few months!

Can we at least get some KHL games or other European league games on our Canadian sports networks. Obviously the games would be on at wee hrs of the morning but we could get the recorded versions on our prime times. Be nice to just see some sort of hockey on TV and not just old games from the 80's.
I don't mind NFL but I'm far from a die hard.
- NewfieStud

If you want to watch KHL, look into DAZN. It's super cheap, and has some other obscure sports that you might like - WTA tennis, lots of ultimate fighting, euro soccer, rugby league, etc.

updated Leafs prospect ranking

https://theathletic.com/2...ings-autumn-2020-edition/


credit to Duby for trying to contend and keeping the prospect pool nice and full

Just realizing that as soon as the World Series is over by potentially early next week, All we have is the NFL for a few months!

Can we at least get some KHL games or other European league games on our Canadian sports networks. Obviously the games would be on at wee hrs of the morning but we could get the recorded versions on our prime times. Be nice to just see some sort of hockey on TV and not just old games from the 80's.
I don't mind NFL but I'm far from a die hard.
- NewfieStud

It is pretty odd to not have the NHL right now. Its one of the things that makes going in to the crappy winter months better

updated Leafs prospect ranking

https://theathletic.com/2...ings-autumn-2020-edition/


credit to Duby for trying to contend and keeping the prospect pool nice and full
- senstroll

For sure, I hope some of these picks turn out really nice. We could really use a few low salary players on entry level deals in the next few years awe well.

I was looking at the WJHC projected rosters and there is a bunch of Leaf prospects on them which is nice to see, minus Canadians which the Leafs rarely have minus their first round picks (when the actually select Canadians)

You are going off the deepend. I would have liked it to be a little less, and you jump on only that comment. You are right, it was the most perfect contract ever that existed. Why anyone dare say its a little more then id have liked considering the cap crunch.

I havent seen your examples yet of contracts I irrationally hated, where are they?
- Archaic

I’m talking about Mikhyeves contract.

And all I asked you is to provide me comparables as to why you think Mikheyev should of gotten less and you still haven’t.

It doesn’t seem like you can.

I mentioned Sven Andrigettos above 4 years ago. 2 x 1.4 M when the cap was much lower.

He had 2 mins of PP time a game.

Mikheyev had a better scoring rate and was a good PKer. And he scored all his points at 5v5 which historically pays well.

Using Andrigettos comparable it’s possible the Arbitrator could of gone as high as 2M.

I’m happy Dubas settled it with Mikheyev because they got him at a very good number.

1 year he would of been had for even less. They went with 2 years so they can re sign Hyman.

If you want to watch KHL, look into DAZN. It's super cheap, and has some other obscure sports that you might like - WTA tennis, lots of ultimate fighting, euro soccer, rugby league, etc.
- Atomic Wedgie

If I have to stream internet sites for games it probably won't happen. I'll just stick to watching my two hunting channels!