7 cases since March here
- NorthNuck

That's because 9 people live there.

That's because 9 people live there.
- Marwood

I know 45 000 isn't much but common now

JV signing for less is the domino that can send a tsunami of shambles.

Now that is done what triggers are coming?

Will it be weeks or months before we see the next Canuck action on finalizing the roster and cap?
- NuckUp

Well.... according to 4U, JB will free up 9.5m by next weekend. I don't see it.

Possible Sutter buyout or a LE(50% off) and a 4th for 7th.

If the Canucks:

- Send LE and Sven down to the AHL
- Ferland starts the year on LTIR
- Buyout Sutter

That leaves them with 6.4 million in cap space with one more player to fill out the forwards, and carry 1-2 more for healthy scratches.

Hoffman or Granlund on 1 year deals? Also, would Chara play on a 1 year deal for a super low cap hit? Pairing him with OJ or Rathbone is a nicer thought than Benn.

Well.... according to 4U, JB will free up 9.5m by next weekend. I don't see it.

Possible Sutter buyout or a LE(50% off) and a 4th for 7th.
- Pres.cup

Aquilini actually saves money by buying out Sutter, he may just allow it.

Again, while stats are very important to ci co consider i also think the general sentiment is he’s not consistent. It’s literally what JB said straight up and actaully what JV said about himself too in that interview. I for one really think he can be that guy, which is what makes this a very good value contract.

One question to all: would he have got more from arbitration?
- neem55

I think he would have received a little mo-m-more in arbitration, perhaps 2.6 to 2.75, but would have only gotten a one year deal.
I agree with your post.

If the Canucks:

- Send LE and Sven down to the AHL
- Ferland starts the year on LTIR
- Buyout Sutter

That leaves them with 6.4 million in cap space with one more player to fill out the forwards, and carry 1-2 more for healthy scratches.

Hoffman or Granlund on 1 year deals? Also, would Chara play on a 1 year deal for a super low cap hit? Pairing him with OJ or Rathbone is a nicer thought than Benn.
- NewYorkNuck

Ferland has to start the year on the roster before he can hit LTIR, could send him down, but we'd only save 1m in cap space.

Aquilini actually saves money by buying out Sutter, he may just allow it.
- Pacificgem

Perhaps, but will JB just find another plug to overpay if he does buy out Sutter.

Ferland has to start the year on the roster before he can hit LTIR, could send him down, but we'd only save 1m in cap space.
- Pres.cup

What is LTIR?

When a player has an injury of which they are expected to miss a minimum of 10 NHL games and 24 days in the NHL season, the team can place them on long term injured reserve (LTIR). LTIR can be used to exceed the salary cap. LTIR is a very complicated aspect of the NHL operations and the vast majority of details are not specified in the CBA.

When a player is placed on LTIR, their cap hit remains on the teams cap payroll and it continues to count as it always did. It also does not provide the club with additional cap-space savings that can be banked for future use while the team operates above the salary cap. Instead, LTIR provides relief if the club's averaged club salary, or payroll, begins to exceed the upper limit. The amount of relief that the club receives is calculated on the day the player is placed on LTIR. There are three equations that are used to determine the LTIR relief, the first, the basic equation, can be used during the season and during the off-season. The second, the training-camp equation, can be used on the final day of the off-season in preparation for the first day of the season. The third formula is used when the team already has a player on LTIR.

When a player is deemed fit to play, the team must activate them.

Perhaps, but will JB just find another plug to overpay if he does buy out Sutter.
- Pres.cup

He’s 1.5 million dollars above the cap, I think he needs it just to comply. Where’s Vantel with all his cap knowledge when you need it

Ferland has to start the year on the roster before he can hit LTIR, could send him down, but we'd only save 1m in cap space.
- Pres.cup

What Pacgem said. He can start the year on LTIR, I'm pretty damn sure. Otherwise, why would teams have been trading around the Clarkson and Horton contracts?

What is LTIR?

When a player has an injury of which they are expected to miss a minimum of 10 NHL games and 24 days in the NHL season, the team can place them on long term injured reserve (LTIR). LTIR can be used to exceed the salary cap. LTIR is a very complicated aspect of the NHL operations and the vast majority of details are not specified in the CBA.

When a player is placed on LTIR, their cap hit remains on the teams cap payroll and it continues to count as it always did. It also does not provide the club with additional cap-space savings that can be banked for future use while the team operates above the salary cap. Instead, LTIR provides relief if the club's averaged club salary, or payroll, begins to exceed the upper limit. The amount of relief that the club receives is calculated on the day the player is placed on LTIR. There are three equations that are used to determine the LTIR relief, the first, the basic equation, can be used during the season and during the off-season. The second, the training-camp equation, can be used on the final day of the off-season in preparation for the first day of the season. The third formula is used when the team already has a player on LTIR.

When a player is deemed fit to play, the team must activate them.
- Pacificgem

But Ferland isn't on LTIR and by all accounts is going to attend training camp.
Unless he gets injured then, he can't just get placed on LTIR.
I know that some think JB can just magically LTIR or MTA players, but that's not the case.

Virtanen sucks. I want to like him, but he's such a tease. Hopefully he gets his poop together, because at this point, he's 24 years old and still getting paid for potential, not results.

He’s 1.5 million dollars above the cap, I think he needs it just to comply. Where’s Vantel with all his cap knowledge when you need it
- Pacificgem

Don't threaten me with a good time.....

If Ferland is on LTIR and he buys out Sutter, he'll have an extra 4m to waste. Any older, slow 4LC from recent cup finalist need an overpayment? Because that screams JB...

But Ferland isn't on LTIR and by all accounts is going to attend training camp.
Unless he gets injured then, he can't just get placed on LTIR.
I know that some think JB can just magically LTIR or MTA players, but that's not the case.
- Pres.cup

Yes I know, unless he’s deemed medically unfit to play by a qualified physician you can’t place him on LTIR. I just copied and pasted that to say that if he was deemed medically unfit this summer, they could put him on long-term injury reserve during the off-season.

What Pacgem said. He can start the year on LTIR, I'm pretty damn sure. Otherwise, why would teams have been trading around the Clarkson and Horton contracts?
- NewYorkNuck

Have to be cap compliant to start the season.

Ferland isn't injured right now and is "feeling good".

Yes, he should not pay for his sake, but, and it's a big but, if he is all healed up and can play, he provides more of what this team needs then Sutter, Beagle or Erikson.

Virtanen sucks. I want to like him, but he's such a tease. Hopefully he gets his poop together, because at this point, he's 24 years old and still getting paid for potential, not results.
- micah555

I also was ready to cut ties with him, however, due to Jim Benning’s mismanagement they have no choice but to keep him around.

Yes I know, unless he’s deemed medically unfit to play by a qualified physician you can’t place him on LTIR. I just copied and pasted that to say that if he was deemed medically unfit this summer, they could put him on long-term injury reserve during the off-season.
- Pacificgem

I agree, but it's fall now and he isn't currently on LTIR....

I also was ready to cut ties with him, however, due to Jim Benning’s mismanagement they have no choice but to keep him around.
- Pacificgem

He did score 18 goals....that’s something

But Ferland isn't on LTIR and by all accounts is going to attend training camp.
Unless he gets injured then, he can't just get placed on LTIR.
I know that some think JB can just magically LTIR or MTA players, but that's not the case.
- Pres.cup

He's not on LTIR right now, no – but you can backdate LTIR. The Canucks would have a pretty easy case as he left the bubble due to his head injury.

Also, it's far from certain he's going to attend training camp. His agent said they're talking about it, but they're taking his health into account first and foremost.

There's a lot of uncertainty, clearly, but there's also a lot of time before the season starts.

Damn rights VHG and we are proud of it...why you ask.

We have the lowest rates of COVID anywhere.
Mainlanders have too pay outrageous fees to come to paradise.
We aren’t delusional enough to believe in made up fallacies that Green can coach an NHL team with competence.
- Makita

WTF is this?

Question, statement, opinion, unrelated statements all wrapped up in one response. Reminds me of another poster who shall not be named.

That's because 9 people live there.
- Marwood

and all related

Wow...just reading the Times Colonist and it says over 1 million people have cast their vote for the upcoming provincial election already. There’s 3.5 million registered voters, although I’m sure a lot of them won’t vote, still, that’s pretty impressive.

Oh, sorry....back to hockey.

He did score 18 goals....that’s something
- canucksfan1944

Yes

Have to be cap compliant to start the season.

Ferland isn't injured right now and is "feeling good".

Yes, he should not pay for his sake, but, and it's a big but, if he is all healed up and can play, he provides more of what this team needs then Sutter, Beagle or Erikson.
- Pres.cup

Of course you have to be cap compliant, not saying you can't be. I'm thinking they'll just buy out Sutter and that will be that.

You can also "feel good" as you're recovering from an injury and still be on the LTIR

But yes, I would much rather have a healthy, fired up Ferland than spend money on another player. However, the good chance of him getting another head injury and ruining his life makes me hope he never plays again in the NHL for his and his family's sake.