Girgensons has proven he is bad at killing penalties in nearly every year of his career to date.
- kingcong39

Everything is girgensons fault.

He flipped the nacho bar.
He told sam not to take pictures with fans
He told krueger that ka-boo-hoo-hun sucked
He picked luke Jack quinn over rossi
He hired the rink guard at the gm position
He stopped working on the yacht
He runs the ball and plays good defense

AHL to start Feb 4th

Probably around the same time the NHL will
- Stripes77

Huge if true. The Sabres will almost certainly be playing meaningful games in March

AHL to start Feb 4th

Probably around the same time the NHL will
- Stripes77

Do you think this will be a permanent shift after covid fears?

Maybe start at Thanksgiving or Christmas not the 1st week of October?

Around here, some people do not think hockey starts until the Bill's season ends.

*Sometimes it's by the beginning of october for the Bill's season to be basically over

A complete rebuild might be in order with another failed season.

The Sabres should really look at the remaining "core" and start over.

Eichel
Sam
Risto
McCabe
Girgensons
Okposo

Eichel is going to want out this year or next. If we lose again. Maybe the rangers already offered some players and the Sabres have that in mind?

Hall was definitely take what you can get 1 year ufa

Olloffson 4 years for 13 million ?
- Boss34

You have to come down from the VO obsession. Why would he get the longest extension of the off season?

Girgensons has proven he is bad at killing penalties in nearly every year of his career to date.
- kingcong39

Goalies have to make saves in the PK, Their SV% improves he is a better PKer as is the team. Linus PK SV% and high risk chances sucks. The goalie is the best PKer.

This is a bad argument because Kahun can play any forward spot nearly equally effective. I’m not gonna get hung up on Kahun because of Hall, but before him looked not great. They’re really relying on Tage to be the RW2 this year. Kahun could have at least provided competition there.
- SDSabre

Kahun most likely doesn’t have a spot in the top 9.

Once Taylor hall entered the top 6 .....

We have

Eichel
Eric staal
Hall
Skinner
Reinhart
Olofsson.
Cozens - right wing

7 player ...... 6 spots.

The 3rd line gets a top 6 forward on that line.

Kahun is now not needed

But Allen sucks and is NOT accurate...


Bills QB Watch
@BillsQBwatch
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Oct 27
After 7 weeks, Josh Allen has the 4th highest on-target pct (81.2%) in the #NFL

Well, any player originally hugely overpaid in the first place and then the first year he collects 10 million produces the points of a 3rd or 4th line player would get ralled on in any market, but there are many more apologizers here than would be expected. The City of Good Neighbors.
- GilPerreault11

I , myself have railed on him as well...
I have also peeled back the onion one or two levels to better understand
1) his Low Danger shots were up significantly
2) his Medium Danger Shots we down fairly significantly
3) his High Danger Shots were down 57%
4) at the time of the analysis in late Dec-sh his Shooting % was exactly at his career mark of 9.4%

Translation-
Since no one could get him the puck in High or Medium Danger areas, his Goal scoring was down.
Instead, his linemates of Slobaka, Larssons, Mojo and others were getting him the puck in ineffective areas...that should have been expected...but our Coach didn't recognize it, nor did the GM do anything to help correct it.

IMO, assuming the Coach doesn't put him on the 4th line again, and he plays with quality players in Jack, Staal, Sam, Cozens....we should see him regress back to his ~30 / 25 / 55 or more level over 82 games with the vast majority of those coming at 5v5. No apologies necessary.

But Allen sucks and is NOT accurate...


Bills QB Watch
@BillsQBwatch
·
Oct 27
After 7 weeks, Josh Allen has the 4th highest on-target pct (81.2%) in the #NFL
- gordong

See his last 3 weeks game stats ...... heck Ryan Fitzpatrick torched the jets while josh Allen couldn’t score a single td

Chiefs and titans game he was flat out bad. Mechanics and reads wise.

Allen’s main issue is reading zone defenses. He is flat out not good at it.

You have to come down from the VO obsession. Why would he get the longest extension of the off season?
- Lunaion

Just a feeling.

I think they have a perfect opportunity to lock up oloffson longer term. He had a great season, been in our system for a long time.

7th rounder $ I would imagine.
Covid pricing

Makes sense to lock him down for a while?
Could be the eichel factor, although I thought he played well later in the season when he moved around a bit?


I appreciate the back and forth in regards to olloffson and value your opinion.

Kahun most likely doesn’t have a spot in the top 9.

Once Taylor hall entered the top 6 .....

We have

Eichel
Eric staal
Hall
Skinner
Reinhart
Olofsson.
Cozens - right wing

7 player ...... 6 spots.

The 3rd line gets a top 6 forward on that line.

Kahun is now not needed
- Sabretooth9

Why you can't have good players throughout your top 9. Nothing wrong with having 3 strong lines. Vanek Roy Pominville showed us that.

See his last 3 weeks game stats ...... heck Ryan Fitzpatrick torched the jets while josh Allen couldn’t score a single td

Chiefs and titans game he was flat out bad. Mechanics and reads wise.

Allen’s main issue is reading zone defenses. He is flat out not good at it.
- Sabretooth9

Guess the other 28 qb’s REALLY suck.... Yeah I can sure see he suckS at reading zone.... NOT

No, they valued Girgs as a piece of the team moving forward more than they valued Kahun.

For instance...does Kahun kill penalties? Does he play physical? How many left wingers do we have.

It makes me feel like this management team has a plan and they are acting on it decisively. That's more than we can say for Bott's tea. GMTM had a plan, he worked it decisively just happened to be a bad plan. I think this group understands it takes depth and players playing their roles. They have a role for Girgs and know what he can do in it and they didn't for Kahun.

Would I have liked to seen Girgs at less money, sure. Am I up in arms that they view he can be successful in a role and they made sure they kept him, no.
- Bufsaints8

And that's the rub.
Kahun proved he can play by posting 31 pts, on pace for 35+, roughly 2x Girgs.
Girgs absolutely blows at PK, being statistically among the leagues worst.
He tries to play physical, I will give him that...except he normally misses at takes it out on the boards.
At 1, even 2 x $1.7m I could see it, albeit it would still be 21% more than his best comparable.

If they could have signed KaBoom at $2.2m instead, nobody would be barking.

Meh, it's done.

Why you can't have good players throughout your top 9. Nothing wrong with having 3 strong lines. Vanek Roy Pominville showed us that.
- Buff36

Well well well .

The legend continues

Well well well .

The legend continues
- Boss34

great 3rd liner.

Guess the other 28 qb’s REALLY suck.... Yeah I can sure see he suckS at reading zone.... NOT
- gordong

Ahhh the titans laid the blueprint and the jets and chiefs followed it to a T

So yeah, I think Allen has a major flaw.

Why you can't have good players throughout your top 9. Nothing wrong with having 3 strong lines. Vanek Roy Pominville showed us that.
- Buff36

The Sabres will have that without Kahun and be just fine.

Stop being blinded by chad D and his advanced stats.

While advanced stats are nice ..... they are not all being.

And that's the rub.
Kahun proved he can play by posting 31 pts, on pace for 35+, roughly 2x Girgs.
Girgs absolutely blows at PK, being statistically among the leagues worst.
He tries to play physical, I will give him that...except he normally misses at takes it out on the boards.
At 1, even 2 x $1.7m I could see it, albeit it would still be 21% more than his best comparable.

If they could have signed KaBoom at $2.2m instead, nobody would be barking.

Meh, it's done.
- IonSabres

There's still a chance Kahun comes back. After they get cost certainty with Olofsson they could finally offload a RHD and sign Kahun

Ahhh the titans laid the blueprint and the jets and chiefs followed it to a T

So yeah, I think Allen has a major flaw.
- Sabretooth9

I’m sure you do, as the stat doesn’t fit your narrative...

Ahhh the titans laid the blueprint and the jets and chiefs followed it to a T

So yeah, I think Allen has a major flaw.
- Sabretooth9

There are very few perfect quarterbacks in the league. And you can win with a flawed one.

Allen has shown he has a huge upside. No reason to think he can't keep progressing.

There are very few perfect quarterbacks in the league. And you can win with a flawed one.

Allen has shown he has a huge upside. No reason to think he can't keep progressing.
- Powerslave

I don’t disagree with that. We need to see him rise up and beat it. Zone coverages if it’s cover4, cover 3 or cover 2 has openings in them.

Josh knows how to torch man coverages. But that’s easier to identify

great 3rd liner.
- TheHank

I'm a big fan and all but, pommer's been retired for a year or so. Not sure if he could step right on the 3rd line ? 🙉

I like where you're going with this though.
What were you thinking ? 5.6 million a year, like the last contract? Maybe get some covid value ?

Kahun most likely doesn’t have a spot in the top 9.

Once Taylor hall entered the top 6 .....

We have

Eichel (set)
Eric staal (one year deal, possible extension, we'll see what he's got left)
Hall (One year, we fall short at the deadline you bet we're flipping him)
Skinner (set)
Reinhart (one year deal)
Olofsson (tough, as he played with Eichel and 5v5 was bad. PP obviously is lethal, should be on Eichel's wing? I know he got better, but that was the knock on him since he got drafted, now 24)
Cozens - right wing (Rookie, we'll see)

7 player ...... 6 spots.

The 3rd line gets a top 6 forward on that line.

Kahun is now not needed
- Sabretooth9

Disagree that Kahun couldn't have fought for a top 6 spot, at worst a third line winger. I mean, the last 3rd winger was mojo. hes no worse and half the cost

Just a feeling.

I think they have a perfect opportunity to lock up oloffson longer term. He had a great season, been in our system for a long time.

7th rounder $ I would imagine.
Covid pricing

Makes sense to lock him down for a while?
Could be the eichel factor, although I thought he played well later in the season when he moved around a bit?


I appreciate the back and forth in regards to olloffson and value your opinion.
- Boss34

There's no question about that at all. You need to apply your Sam logic to him, because it affects him even more so.

Disagree that Kahun couldn't have fought for a top 6 spot, at worst a third line winger. I mean, the last 3rd winger was mojo. hes no worse and half the cost
- SDSabre

No way in hell Kahun cracks the top 6 with the top 7 players we have. Holy cow. People are franking brainwashed by analytics.

It’s funny. Kahun played 6 games for the Sabres and he’s anointed the next Jesus Christ.

Eakins who played a great 6 games with the jets. Sucks and is the worst player ever.

#analytics