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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 27 @ 12:27 PM ET
It certainly cannot be disproven. What a person bases their projections on is solid facts of the past and the lessons learned. Since each player is an individual, no comparable is an exact match and illness/injuries are mostly unpredictable.

You may be sad to learn based on our last argument...I’m working on a project to view my own subjective analysis in complete hindsight of the past cup contenders and cup winners with a star player focus. It will take me some weeks. If it changes anything for me in the “Hope” category, I’ll let you know.

- NC Flyers Fan


Why would I be sad? I make my living doing data based analysis. I am delighted.

However, it is generally a good idea to make such projects, which are in the public domain, as public as possible. For the same reason we have open source software and pre-prints of journal articles. Often, we make mistakes or have subjective biases and the marketplace of public scrutiny corrects those mistakes.

Unless of course you are planning to make an app out of this and monetize it. In that case, please be secretive.

Does one of your variables have "time spent on a farm" as a measure?
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RUNS AWAY SCREAMING IN FEAR


NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 27 @ 12:41 PM ET
Why would I be sad? I make my living doing data based analysis. I am delighted.

However, it is generally a good idea to make such projects, which are in the public domain, as public as possible. For the same reason we have open source software and pre-prints of journal articles. Often, we make mistakes or have subjective biases and the marketplace of public scrutiny corrects those mistakes.

Unless of course you are planning to make an app out of this and monetize it. In that case, please be secretive.

Does one of your variables have "time spent on a farm" as a measure?
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RUNS AWAY SCREAMING IN FEAR

- PT21



Good, may you run far and fast. I view my data collection as ammo for when you undoubtedly return.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 12:44 PM ET
Good, may you run far and fast. I view my data collection as ammo for when you undoubtedly return.
- NC Flyers Fan


Can't return if you never leave. Remember he's leaving hockeybuzz! Or is it that he's going to be posting less.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
Good, may you run far and fast. I view my data collection as ammo for when you undoubtedly return.
- NC Flyers Fan


You have to look at probabilities.

Otherwise, it will be prone to errors people here typically make - like pointing out Toronto or Edmonton as examples to why tanking/star based drafting does not work.

(Not all star based teams win, but post lock-out circa 2006 - all teams that win have at least one star (top 5 D or top 5 C or generational winger).

Anyway, I await your ammo with bated breath.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 12:52 PM ET


Otherwise, it will be prone to errors people here typically make - like pointing out Toronto or Edmonton as examples to why tanking/star based drafting does not work.


- PT21


Typical PT21 arrogance talking about people making errors while making one himself. Nobody in that conversation stated that tanking doesn't work. What is routinely stated is that tanking does not guarantee anything and a team like Edmonton is an example of that.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 27 @ 1:02 PM ET
PT:
So far I’ve kept an open mind, however all the flaws to your premise, based on subjective value, I mentioned to you are really apparent in actually looking back at players. I will expand the view to capture a more accurate picture.

If I thought I was wrong, I would have been afraid to look. However, it’s not hard just tedious.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 27 @ 1:09 PM ET
Can't return if you never leave. Remember he's leaving hockeybuzz! Or is it that he's going to be posting less.
- MJL


It’s 2020, I try to give him the benefit of the doubt when those plans repeatedly fall thru.





PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 27 @ 1:11 PM ET
PT:
So far I’ve kept an open mind, however all the flaws to your premise, based on subjective value, I mentioned to you are really apparent in actually looking back at players. I will expand the view to capture a more accurate picture.

If I thought I was wrong, I would have been afraid to look. However, it’s not hard just tedious.

- NC Flyers Fan


Fair enough. You say all the right things here. I am eager to read about your analysis.

I don't usually read past blobs, so I am outta here. PM me if you post something seeking a response.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 27 @ 1:13 PM ET
It’s 2020, I try to give him the benefit of the doubt when those plans repeatedly fall thru.






- NC Flyers Fan


To be technical, I never did say I will leave. The resident retard here keeps saying that because, well, he is who he is. The perfect mini-me of the President.

I did however say I would post less, which has been a promise brazenly broken.

Cheers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 1:57 PM ET
To be technical, I never did say I will leave. The resident retard here keeps saying that because, well, he is who he is. The perfect mini-me of the President.

I did however say I would post less, which has been a promise brazenly broken.

Cheers.

- PT21


Sure you did! We all know it was just an attention seeking opportunity. We all also knew that it was complete BS.

The use of the word retard to insult someone is offensive and shows your true character. I would look inward if I was you because someone you label a retard, routinely calls you out for your hypocrisy and rhetoric on a daily basis. To the point where you are powerless in rebuttal. Your ego won't let you not post just as it won't let you not post your political rhetoric on thread as requested.
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