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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 27 @ 4:01 PM ET
This just reminded of a game I was at against Boston in 98. The Bruins had been chipping Lindros the whole game. And then Tim Taylor got his stick up and Lindros had enough.

Poor Taylor.


- MBFlyerfan

Lol, Kevin Collins saved Taylor’s life!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 27 @ 4:02 PM ET
Even LeClair would have a bigger advantage against today's NHL defenseman. Impossible to stop around the net.
- MJL

Imagine what Kerr could do if he couldn’t be held.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Oct 27 @ 4:03 PM ET
The only ones who came close were Macleish in the mid 70s, especially during the playoffs, Reggie Leach during the 76 playoffs when he seemed to score every time he touched the puck, Primeau at times during the 04 playoffs and Foppa during the first couple of months of the 05-06 season.

But no one, absolutely no one, did it night in and night out like #88 in his prime. For a short time he electrified fans the way Orr and Mario did in their primes. There has never been a combo of pure skill, power and ferocity like Eric Lindros during those peak years.

If only he had ever learned to skate with his head up, but it’s hard to blame him as at every level, he was just so much bigger and stronger than everyone else that it just didn’t matter.

- BiggE


I think his dad was quoted as saying something about Eric's never having to learn to skate with his head up.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Oct 27 @ 4:05 PM ET
Lol, Kevin Collins saved Taylor’s life!
- BiggE




It was probably the right choice to make for Taylor's sake.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 4:08 PM ET
The only ones who came close were Macleish in the mid 70s, especially during the playoffs, Reggie Leach during the 76 playoffs when he seemed to score every time he touched the puck, Primeau at times during the 04 playoffs and Foppa during the first couple of months of the 05-06 season.

But no one, absolutely no one, did it night in and night out like #88 in his prime. For a short time he electrified fans the way Orr and Mario did in their primes. There has never been a combo of pure skill, power and ferocity like Eric Lindros during those peak years.

If only he had ever learned to skate with his head up, but it’s hard to blame him as at every level, he was just so much bigger and stronger than everyone else that it just didn’t matter.

- BiggE


Macleish is so underrated as a player. So dam good. With the long hair skating around like the wind with a wicked wrist shot. Also tough as nails. Nobody wanted to mess with him.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 27 @ 4:13 PM ET
Macleish is so underrated as a player. So dam good. With the long hair skating around like the wind with a wicked wrist shot. Also tough as nails. Nobody wanted to mess with him.
- MJL

Bob Kelly said that, by far, Macleish was the strongest player on the team. He didn’t fight much, but if you got him angry look out, he was tough as nails.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 27 @ 6:12 PM ET
I feel as tho I need to clarify some thing in regards to nopa from previous thread. First off and most importantly I do NOT have any ill feelings toward nopa and have absolutely no desire for his career to be over. I hope he recovers and continues career and excels. I would never wish injury on anyone. I’m no sicko. With that said and hopefully fully understood my comments of fake migraine boy are in jest to the situation. Nothing more. I absolutely believe the team lied (maybe not intentionally or maliciously about a concussion) but to clear up why it’s important is because it affects the team for future and how they and we as fans perceive it and as fans talk about it. For example, who plays 3c who’s possible here or signed or brought up. Who moves to wing and such. So when fans say nopa will be back because “it’s a migraine condition he’s had from childhood “ when again no one can produce an ARTICLE MJL who can’t comprehend I asked for an ARTICLE not a MEDICAL REPORT. Producing an article would never violate hippa. Many articles written about draft players health. And it’s all relevant in today’s age because so much more info on concussions. So the odds that nopa could possibly not play again like primeau are greater than ever. Do I think it’ll go that way? Probably not. Do I think nopa will be back? Yeah probably will and I sincerely hope he does. Would I be surprised if he’s not back? Wouldn’t be shocked at all because I know this isn’t just migraine related from childhood. This is from trauma. Obviously from concussion. I don’t need a medical report to come to that conclusion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 6:19 PM ET
I feel as tho I need to clarify some thing in regards to nopa from previous thread. First off and most importantly I do NOT have any ill feelings toward nopa and have absolutely no desire for his career to be over. I hope he recovers and continues career and excels. I would never wish injury on anyone. I’m no sicko. With that said and hopefully fully understood my comments of fake migraine boy are in jest to the situation. Nothing more. I absolutely believe the team lied (maybe not intentionally or maliciously about a concussion) but to clear up why it’s important is because it affects the team for future and how they and we as fans perceive it and as fans talk about it. For example, who plays 3c who’s possible here or signed or brought up. Who moves to wing and such. So when fans say nopa will be back because “it’s a migraine condition he’s had from childhood “ when again no one can produce an ARTICLE MJL who can’t comprehend I asked for an ARTICLE not a MEDICAL REPORT. Producing an article would never violate hippa. Many articles written about draft players health. And it’s all relevant in today’s age because so much more info on concussions. So the odds that nopa could possibly not play again like primeau are greater than ever. Do I think it’ll go that way? Probably not. Do I think nopa will be back? Yeah probably will and I sincerely hope he does. Would I be surprised if he’s not back? Wouldn’t be shocked at all because I know this isn’t just migraine related from childhood. This is from trauma. Obviously from concussion. I don’t need a medical report to come to that conclusion.
- SMS4016


You're a fraud. That's the only thing that you have clarified. You have no evidence that the team lied. None and you haven't and can't produce any proof. You challenged the board and that challenge was answered. Time for you to eat crow. Put up or shut up. Produce the proof and the evidence that the team lied. Time for you to man up! You won't because we already know that you can't. Now back to ignoring you.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 27 @ 6:46 PM ET
Thanks, but no, thanks.
- missingmike


You are a confused dude.

You misinterpreted correlation for causation, then said you had revised your post and noticed the difference, and then you continued to argue as though I had said causation. There is never any provable causation in social matters, only degrees of correlation.

Then you asked for something, and then say you don't want it.

Having said that, I am glad you don't. It would have been a tedious debate.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 27 @ 6:55 PM ET
....
- SMS4016


i think you would be better served if you pointed out that when you wrote:

"Not being argumentative but I challenge anyone to produce just 1 article showing anywhere we here nopa sufferered from migraines predraft:"

the pre-draft part refers to the time of publication of the article you were seeking.

It should be obvious from the context of what you were talking about, but given who you are arguing with, most things go over his head, and so..
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 27 @ 7:02 PM ET
Such sincerity for being 100% wrong.

Remember back in March when you were posting about 5G causing Covid. Good times man.

- hereticpride


He is a nice guy, but his connection with evidence is...spectacularly tenuous. In the past he has mentioned that he would have thought all the chemo Oskar did should kill the virus if it comes in his body. And that Covid counts in Florida are vastly inflated.

That last one is a perpetual favorite btw. I have argued with an idiot Isles fan and MJL on Ek's thread about it. Scientific American, that 175 year old American institution that is in every high school library around the country did a comprehensive article about it this week.

https://www.scientificame...eath-counts-are-inflated/

But what do they know? They are intelligent people, thus they must be sponsored by Soros.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 27 @ 7:07 PM ET
Not sure what your attraction to emasculated men is, but whatever. Stick to hockey.


- Letterkenney


This song was written with you in mind

StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Oct 27 @ 7:16 PM ET
Lol this is going to be a great next 7 days. Get your popcorn ready!
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 27 @ 7:37 PM ET
Lol this is going to be a great next 7 days. Get your popcorn ready!
- StepfordSam



It’s fun to watch from afar as well.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 7:45 PM ET
i think you would be better served if you pointed out that when you wrote:

"Not being argumentative but I challenge anyone to produce just 1 article showing anywhere we here nopa sufferered from migraines predraft:"

the pre-draft part refers to the time of publication of the article you were seeking.

It should be obvious from the context of what you were talking about, but given who you are arguing with, most things go over his head, and so..

- PT21


Again, you show a ridiculous lack of logic. The articles produced contained statements where the GM stated that Patrick suffered from migraines when he was younger and in junior hockey which was in fact PRE-DRAFT! As well as having a family history. Now if he had phrased the question "show me an article that was written pre-draft that said that Patrick had a migraine issue, then you might have a point. As someone who is uber educated and works in academia, you should be able to grasp that simple nuance. The key words are "suffered from migraines pre draft". That's obviously over your head.
I'm glad you mentioned context. Here is another logic failure on your part. His premise which goes straight to context was that he does not have a migraine issue but has concussion issues from the hits he took playing for the Flyers and that he has a migraine issue that he also had previously as a younger player is a lie! That is the only context that matters! He attempted to use that as evidence to support his agenda. It does not do so and you know it doesn't.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 27 @ 7:47 PM ET
This song was written with you in mind


- PT21



Might be the first JT album I heard in full, but probably not until 1980 or so. I thought it was fantastic back the, and I still think it's fantastic today.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 27 @ 7:50 PM ET
The articles produced contained statements where the GM stated that Patrick suffered from migraines when he was younger and in junior hockey which was in fact PRE-DRAFT! As well as having a family history.
- MJL


I think the issue here is, and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, is that it is unclear if the migraine history was known pre-draft or if it was learned post-draft. Nobody is arguing that there is a history. When was the history learned?

Is there an article/story/statement dated before June 23, 2017 that mentions this history? Sincere question, not being argumentative.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 7:56 PM ET
He is a nice guy, but his connection with evidence is...spectacularly tenuous. In the past he has mentioned that he would have thought all the chemo Oskar did should kill the virus if it comes in his body. And that Covid counts in Florida are vastly inflated.

That last one is a perpetual favorite btw. I have argued with an idiot Isles fan and MJL on Ek's thread about it. Scientific American, that 175 year old American institution that is in every high school library around the country did a comprehensive article about it this week.

https://www.scientificame...eath-counts-are-inflated/

But what do they know? They are intelligent people, thus they must be sponsored by Soros.

- PT21


This is the part where you make crap up because you're too cowardly to debate me directly. Like I said many times. Take your rhetoric to the misc thread and I'll be glad to meet you there and debate you directly.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 7:58 PM ET
I think the issue here is, and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, is that it is unclear if the migraine history was known pre-draft or if it was learned post-draft. Nobody is arguing that there is a history. When was the history learned?

Is there an article/story/statement dated before June 23, 2017 that mentions this history? Sincere question, not being argumentative.

- Scoob


You're only partially correct Scoob. Your first statement I believe is true. However the poster in question is stating that the team is lying about it being a migraine issue and has nothing to do with migraines and it is strictly a concussion issue. That the team is making up the migraine part to hide the concussion issue.
Levit8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Joined: 07.24.2015

Oct 27 @ 8:02 PM ET
He is a nice guy, but his connection with evidence is...spectacularly tenuous. In the past he has mentioned that he would have thought all the chemo Oskar did should kill the virus if it comes in his body. And that Covid counts in Florida are vastly inflated.

That last one is a perpetual favorite btw. I have argued with an idiot Isles fan and MJL on Ek's thread about it. Scientific American, that 175 year old American institution that is in every high school library around the country did a comprehensive article about it this week.

https://www.scientificame...eath-counts-are-inflated/

But what do they know? They are intelligent people, thus they must be sponsored by Soros.

- PT21


There is so much wrong with that article that debunking it would take as much space as the article itself. The number of people who have died from covid-19 are both over inflated and under-stated at the same time. Yes, that's possible. The fact of the matter is that we will never know how many people truly died as a direct result of this virus. To state otherwise is simply irresponsible.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 27 @ 8:03 PM ET
You're only partially correct Scoob. Your first statement I believe is true. However the poster in question is stating that the team is lying about it being a migraine issue and has nothing to do with migraines and it is strictly a concussion issue. That the team is making up the migraine part to hide the concussion issue.
- MJL


I can't get behind that theory as it's too easy to prove.

Still on the open items list is finding a pre- June 23, 2017 article/story/interview that mentions it. It's relevant to quiet/support the "they knew he had this issue yet drafted him anyway" argument.
Sir_Robot_Farts
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.27.2020

Oct 27 @ 8:14 PM ET
I fully expect crimson to make an appearance over the Forsberg mention.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 8:21 PM ET
I can't get behind that theory as it's too easy to prove.

Still on the open items list is finding a pre- June 23, 2017 article/story/interview that mentions it. It's relevant to quiet/support the "they knew he had this issue yet drafted him anyway" argument.

- Scoob


That has not been argued about Scoob.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Oct 27 @ 8:25 PM ET
I can't get behind that theory as it's too easy to prove.

Still on the open items list is finding a pre- June 23, 2017 article/story/interview that mentions it. It's relevant to quiet/support the "they knew he had this issue yet drafted him anyway" argument.

- Scoob

Youre not going to find them. The only way someone would be able to find that out predraft is if Nolan's doctors or somebody associated, with access to his medical records, violated HIPAA and leaked that info.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 27 @ 8:42 PM ET
Might be the first JT album I heard in full, but probably not until 1980 or so. I thought it was fantastic back the, and I still think it's fantastic today.
- Scoob


It is a great album, and I was lucky enough to be able to see Ian Anderson live.

Nowadays I listen almost exclusively to classical music, but that is one of the few albums I listened to in my youth and that I still listen to several times a year.
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