Apparently you know nothing about Columbus.

No one is going to KC bruh
- BringNYIhome

Somebody is going to Kansas City!

https://www.bing.com/vide...1&view=detail&FORM=VRAASM

But yeah, not a good place for hockey team. The Scouts lasted two seasons; but that was a long time ago....

What potential market growth do you speak of? If anything, hockey did not grow in Miami, it has largely receded. Also we are discussing a hypothetical team move because of the financial hardships caused by this covid mess. When the NHL's revenues are 40-45% dependent on ticket sales and arena revenues, trust me, the board of directors and league owners would vote more for a team that will fill its building at avg 100$ a pop than Florida at whatever abysmal numbers they're showing...
- habfanforever

Not with a pending U.S. television deal.

What potential market growth do you speak of? If anything, hockey did not grow in Miami, it has largely receded. Also we are discussing a hypothetical team move because of the financial hardships caused by this covid mess. When the NHL's revenues are 40-45% dependent on ticket sales and arena revenues, trust me, the board of directors and league owners would vote more for a team that will fill its building at avg 100$ a pop than Florida at whatever abysmal numbers they're showing...
- habfanforever

Hockey will never grow in Miami as long as the arena is in Sunrise.

And they wouldn't be able to sell a single luxury box.
- Atomic Wedgie

This as well. There's very little corporate money in Quebec City, relatively speaking.

Small market team that hasn't been around long and hasn't had much success historically. But we'll get there. We have good ownership
- General Mokus

That I know, the McConnell family hasn't been afraid to spend on players , so that number could be seen more as an investment to grow the brand .

Why do you say “what say you” all the time? It’s f%#*in stupid
- BringNYIhome

It's not as bad as saying "methinks".

Bring back Nordiques, please. They're one more franchise the Sabres can't ever beat in the playoffs (assuming they ever get there again), but the history and memories are golden.

Didn't Carolinas woes get settled with the sale to current ownership?
- leafsfann

Pretty much. And they've signed a new lease that runs through until the end of the decade.

Houston is a terrible place for an nhl team. It would end up just like the Thrashers time in Atlanta

As follows:

Arizona to Quebec

Detroit back in Central Division

Seattle in Pacific Division:

E5

TBF, when you look at the hockey climate and histories in the areas, QC seems to be the better fit for success. The Nords were supported by fans, it was the government that failed them and gave them little support; a new and larger/better arena most likely would have done the trick. Houston is not a hotbed for hockey, whereas QC would draw fast from a greater hackey base... if they have adequate and welcoming support this time around. Quebec City is a fantastic city to take a hockey trip to; in fact, I've personally visited multiple times without any hockey factored in.
- ForeverFlyer16

What QC lacks in population they can easily make up for in fanaticism regarding hockey. I think a modern NHL team could easily survive there. Who can forget this Quebec fan, who actually had the cajones to go after Rob Ray?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eElspvew7rw

Also, QC's population is very comparable to that of Winnipeg and as far as I know the Jets are doing fine.

What would an owner pay to transfer a team to their city?

And if less than what Vegas and Seattle paid, what would those owners think?

You have very Valid Points on Harris/Blitzer. I have always said its about the arenas and not the teams with these guys. I do see a very bright future with the Devils in spite of how they handle the team. Fitzy is doing a bang up job thus far.
I am relieved in knowing that the Harris/Blitzer bid for the NY Mets fell short, I shudder to thing what they would have done with them. When the Wilpons pulled SNY network off the market, the possible new toy lost its shine and didn't increase their bid to buy the team. I feel for the Sixers fans. They deserve better then what they have been getting
- JonnyGar

I've come to really hate Harris/Blitzer, but their total ambivalence to the actual team that's playing the sport doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. They did, after all, hire Sam Hinkie and green light The Process because they didn't really give a poop, and that was a great thing. The issue became that Scott O'Neil fancies himself a basketball mind and was overly empowered to interfere with the FO's decision making process. Not gonna get super into it as there's nothing I can say about it that isn't already said in Tanking to the Top (great book for those interested) and this is a hockey board, not a basketball board. But if O'Neil doesn't care about hockey the same way he cares about basketball and largely stays out of the Devil's hockey ops, the sad story of what could have been with the Sixers doesn't necessarily mean that the Devils are equally (frank)ed under this ownership group.

Also, QC's population is very comparable to that of Winnipeg and as far as I know the Jets are doing fine.
- PghPens668771

The Jets lose money, and Winnipeg was pretty much an untapped market.

I lived in Quebec City for a few years and it's a Canadiens city. It doesn't feel like a city without a team. It feels like a city with a team that only plays road games. They're already giving the NHL a bunch of money, and the corporate cash is going towards the Canadiens. It's not like everyone is going to double what they're spending if Quebec gets a team.

The NHL isn't really gaining new fans with a team in Quebec.

I've come to really hate Harris/Blitzer, but their total ambivalence to the actual team that's playing the sport doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. They did, after all, hire Sam Hinkie and green light The Process because they didn't really give a poop, and that was a great thing. The issue became that Scott O'Neil fancies himself a basketball mind and was overly empowered to interfere with the FO's decision making process. Not gonna get super into it as there's nothing I can say about it that isn't already said in Tanking to the Top (great book for those interested) and this is a hockey board, not a basketball board. But if O'Neil doesn't care about hockey the same way he cares about basketball and largely stays out of the Devil's hockey ops, the sad story of what could have been with the Sixers doesn't necessarily mean that the Devils are equally (frank)ed under this ownership group.
- Victoro311

I'm not sure if we are equally (frank)ed but we've been pretty (frank)ed since they showed up. We've clearly become a team that magically has a tiny salary each year. Ray Ray Shero supposedly never even offered Taylor Hall a contract and the owners claimed to really like Hall. I just think they like money more.... which is nice from a hedge fund point of view but pretty not fine from a building a competitive team point of view.

The Jets lose money, and Winnipeg was pretty much an untapped market.

I lived in Quebec City for a few years and it's a Canadiens city. It doesn't feel like a city without a team. It feels like a city with a team that only plays road games. They're already giving the NHL a bunch of money, and the corporate cash is going towards the Canadiens. It's not like everyone is going to double what they're spending if Quebec gets a team.

The NHL isn't really gaining new fans with a team in Quebec.
- Hunkulese

When?

I'm not sure if we are equally (frank)ed but we've been pretty (frank)ed since they showed up. We've clearly become a team that magically has a tiny salary each year. Ray Ray Shero supposedly never even offered Taylor Hall a contract and the owners claimed to really like Hall. I just think they like money more.... which is nice from a hedge fund point of view but pretty not fine from a building a competitive team point of view.
- Queenie_5_hole

This checks out. They make our GM’s sell 2nd round picks for cash every year.

Pretty much. And they've signed a new lease that runs through until the end of the decade.
- BINGO!

i think the only teams in the league who currently have issues that wouldn't be solved by new/improved ownership is Florida and Arizona.....the fact is that they play in cities where people flat out don't give a poop. they seem like the only logical teams to consider for relocation.

When?
- Nasty_Duck

08-15.

QC population: 550k + surrounding area

Houston population: 2.3 million + surrounding areas

Which do we choose for a team first? Oh yea, the city the league already left.
- gocanes0506

Do people in Houston even like hockey? Quebec had to leave because the NHL didn’t bother to help out the Canadian markets when our dollar was so far behind the US dollar. That’s what killed off the jets, nordiques, and almost the flames and Oilers. That’s a big reason why Bettman is so disliked in Canada, he saves Phoenix, Florida, Pittsburgh (in the early 2000’s) but no help north of the border. Quebec deserves their team back before any American city does.

Winnipeg and Nashville are never moving. NJ is a joke. I could see them moving. 50% of that state is Rangers fans. 25% is Flyer fans. Do the math
- BringNYIhome

Last time I checked the Islanders were calling Harris and Blitzer asking to play in the Prudential center for some 50% of their home games because your team is essentially homeless... now if there was one team to move; no one cares about the Islanders and NY really doesn't need two teams. Face it your the Jets and the Mets of the NHL... I get the bitterness.

Somebody is going to Kansas City!

https://www.bing.com/vide...1&view=detail&FORM=VRAASM

But yeah, not a good place for hockey team. The Scouts lasted two seasons; but that was a long time ago....
- Queenie_5_hole

My dad loves that song

Hockey will never grow in Miami as long as the arena is in Sunrise.
- Atomic Wedgie

All the fans down there root for the Rangers, Islanders, Leafs and Bruins. Their fan base has to be the smallest in sports

Man move a team to Hartford... Bring back the whale tail.

08-15.
- Hunkulese

So they had no local team.
Who the heck should they be cheering for?

Go back in time to 1993, live there for a few years and see if they were a "Canadiens city". I'm thinking... not so much.