Maybe. Or, there is a rush for an OS with so much up in there air: no one knows what's going on, so they're less likely to make moves, so sending an OS to Tampa puts them in an even bigger bind.


- NewYorkNuck

So much uncertainty it’s anyones guess.

Then a GM isn’t doing his job if he ignores an opportunity that helps his team.
- Nighthawk

Sure, I guess all GM’s don’t do their jobs

Maybe. Or, there is a rush for an OS with so much up in there air: no one knows what's going on, so they're less likely to make moves, so sending an OS to Tampa puts them in an even bigger bind.


- NewYorkNuck

Tampa should be thrilled to get offer sheets - there's no way they're moving out those Gourde, Johnson, Palat, Killorn (all NTC) contracts that are eating up 20mil of cap space. They currently have 3mil to sign Cernak, Sergachev and Cirelli so they can pick one to keep/afford. Promote from within - Raddish, Barre-Boulet, Katchouk, Foote all are ready for the NHL. So getting a few OS picks is best case Ontario IMO.

Tampa should be thrilled to get offer sheets - there's no way they're moving out those Gourde, Johnson, Palat, Killorn (all NTC) contracts that are eating up 20mil of cap space. They currently have 3mil to sign Cernak, Sergachev and Cirelli so they can pick one to keep/afford. Promote from within - Raddish, Barre-Boulet, Katchouk, Foote all are ready for the NHL. So getting a few OS picks is best case Ontario IMO.
- Brooks_Light

There is never anything "best case" about Ontario

Kelly McCrimmon reached out to JB after Tavev & Stecher walked, needing to dump Schmidt for the Pietrangelo deal. Even a fool get's lucky once in awhile.
- VanHockeyGuy

You forgot to mention Linden calling McCrimmon and prearranging the offer.

You forgot to mention Linden calling McCrimmon and prearranging the offer.
- Pres.cup

Link?

Kelly McCrimmon reached out to JB after Tavev & Stecher walked, needing to dump Schmidt for the Pietrangelo deal. Even a fool get's lucky once in awhile.
- VanHockeyGuy

How is that being lucky. JB had it out there well and good that he was looking to acquire a Dman. Kelly needed to trade Schmidt and fast. He knew Benning wouldn't jerk him around trying to fleece him more than he already did, also was likely on a clock to have a deal in place to ensure AP didn't sign elsewhere. This "luck" factor you speak of can also be attributed to working the phones and being active paying off. JB isn't the best GM by any means, but these last couple years he has done very well for us. Yes we have bad contracts, but they were signed at a time when we didn't know EP and Hughes would be nearly as good as they are. If LE hadn't SHARPLY declined after signing and was still playing like a 20-30g guy we wouldn't be complaining about him at all.
To me it seems like LE got his retirement deal and just stopped caring about trying and playing hard.

Tampa should be thrilled to get offer sheets - there's no way they're moving out those Gourde, Johnson, Palat, Killorn (all NTC) contracts that are eating up 20mil of cap space. They currently have 3mil to sign Cernak, Sergachev and Cirelli so they can pick one to keep/afford. Promote from within - Raddish, Barre-Boulet, Katchouk, Foote all are ready for the NHL. So getting a few OS picks is best case Ontario IMO.
- Brooks_Light

I'd think if they attached Sergachev to one of those bigger contracts they could move one and sign two. They have options – better options than just a few picks.

How is that being lucky. JB had it out there well and good that he was looking to acquire a Dman. Kelly needed to trade Schmidt and fast. He knew Benning wouldn't jerk him around trying to fleece him more than he already did, also was likely on a clock to have a deal in place to ensure AP didn't sign elsewhere. This "luck" factor you speak of can also be attributed to working the phones and being active paying off. JB isn't the best GM by any means, but these last couple years he has done very well for us. Yes we have bad contracts, but they were signed at a time when we didn't know EP and Hughes would be nearly as good as they are. If LE hadn't SHARPLY declined after signing and was still playing like a 20-30g guy we wouldn't be complaining about him at all.
To me it seems like LE got his retirement deal and just stopped caring about trying and playing hard.
- Retinalz

Luck is just preparation meeting opportunity

How is that being lucky. JB had it out there well and good that he was looking to acquire a Dman. Kelly needed to trade Schmidt and fast. He knew Benning wouldn't jerk him around trying to fleece him more than he already did, also was likely on a clock to have a deal in place to ensure AP didn't sign elsewhere. This "luck" factor you speak of can also be attributed to working the phones and being active paying off. JB isn't the best GM by any means, but these last couple years he has done very well for us. Yes we have bad contracts, but they were signed at a time when we didn't know EP and Hughes would be nearly as good as they are. If LE hadn't SHARPLY declined after signing and was still playing like a 20-30g guy we wouldn't be complaining about him at all.
To me it seems like LE got his retirement deal and just stopped caring about trying and playing hard.
- Retinalz

Benning's an idiot.

Link?
- VanHockeyGuy

https://www.qanonanonymous.com/

Benning's an idiot.
- VanHockeyGuy

So stupid he was placed in charge of an NHL team for the last 6 years. If he is an idiot, then what does that make you and me?

So stupid he was placed in charge of an NHL team for the last 6 years. If he is an idiot, then what does that make you and me?
- Retinalz

Beagle, Roussel, Sutter (foundational), Baertschi, Eriksson.

How can we afford Cernak? Bolts won't take a cap dump, and we would need to clear probably at least 4.5m to sign him.
- Retinalz

Did you not see the Caveat? Why I suggested depth deal for now in earlier post. On Cernak can't do anything on cap clearance until season to start and AHL confirmed. That's when they can deal with Ferland/LE to get the cap space. Also that's when TB under pressure to finalize roster and make deals. Its all about timing that triggers the movement. How Canucks held on for Nate willing to let TT walk for example.

So stupid he was placed in charge of an NHL team for the last 6 years. If he is an idiot, then what does that make you and me?
- Retinalz

smart enough to graduate school and make money with our minds and not our hands?

if benning ripped his knee at age 15, he'd probably be selling feed at the local grainery.

smart enough to graduate school and make money with our minds and not our hands?

if benning ripped his knee at age 15, he'd probably be selling feed at the local grainery.
- RealityChecker

Awesome!

It's interesting how people talk about Myers' poor play on this team and what a bad signing that was but clearly anyone who plays beside him has better stats. Hughes and Edler especially.

https://canucksarmy.com/2...lvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I get it, he makes a bad play here and there and that easily becomes the focus but the entire sample size shows he's an positive impact player for the Canucks D core.

smart enough to graduate school and make money with our minds and not our hands?

if benning ripped his knee at age 15, he'd probably be selling feed at the local grainery.
- RealityChecker

He comes from a family of scouts. If he ripped his knee at 15 he would probably have been a scout.

He comes from a family of scouts. If he ripped his knee at 15 he would probably have been a scout.
- Retinalz

Facts are not welcome here when then support JB. Please refrain from evidence based comments of any kind.

Wasn't the same thing said about Schmidt.
- Makita

Not very similar players. Schmidt’s contract is the issue, not his ability.

It's interesting how people talk about Myers' poor play on this team and what a bad signing that was but clearly anyone who plays beside him has better stats. Hughes and Edler especially.

https://canucksarmy.com/2...lvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I get it, he makes a bad play here and there and that easily becomes the focus but the entire sample size shows he's an positive impact player for the Canucks D core.
- boonerbuck

What's more astonishing is he's the only capable RSD Canucks have in organization and they want to lose Myers to expansion for cap room.

He comes from a family of scouts. If he ripped his knee at 15 he would probably have been a scout.
- Retinalz

No no no. He's a grain worker now. Graaain worker.

Beagle, Roussel, Sutter (foundational), Baertschi, Eriksson.
- VanHockeyGuy

Beagle wasn't needed where we were at as a team, could have done without.

Roussell was a good pick up and started the contract out as a 40 point guy for us before his knee went one way and his body another. Last season he was coming in as a 26 pt guy off a major injury, still not terrible production.

Sutter was an upgrade on Bonino at the time, injuries are what made that a bad contracts.

Bearschi put up a 42 pt pace followed by a 46 pt pace. Injuries should had foretold that we should let him walk, but teams usually still sign guys like Baerschi back, and 3.6m for 40+ pts is good money for point production, he also wasn't terrible defensively.

LE is just a terrible signing, but coming off 30g 33a season with Boston and FA/JB thinking he would play well with the Twins is why he got signed.

A lot of people use FA's desire to compete and get playoff revenue as a defense for JB's bad deals, others say he was an idiot for telling FA he could do it and not being able to(nobody could get the twins competitive again without selling the farm).

Let's be realistic, nobody goes in to a job interview and tells the guy hiring that what he wants to do is not realistic and they should want it done another way. They won't get the job. Benning backed us into a corner this offseason with a few bad deals that made sense at the time, and if EP specifically(after him Hughes) didn't come in to the league as good as they did, we wouldn't have any issues at all today.

JB's first 4 years were riddled with mistakes with free agents and trades(pretty damned good with drafting compared to other teams), and his last 2 have been excellent.

https://www.qanonanonymous.com/
- Marwood

He comes from a family of scouts. If he ripped his knee at 15 he would probably have been a scout.
- Retinalz

If he ripped his knee as a teen and had to stop playing competitive hockey, he would be Lefty/Gemma.