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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 27 @ 10:08 PM ET
Ideally Virt would be 3rd line

Miller - EP - Podz/JV
Hoglander - Bo - Boeser

Hoglander has very good play making ability and good two way play. He would slot there better than Bo IMO

- Retinalz


Woah woah, careful there, might get your feet held to the fire suggesting those guys are going to be playing in the top 6, let alone BOTH of them.

I'd actually think Podkolzin and Bo would be a better mesh, if they both play that strong north south game creating more room for Hoglander.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Oct 27 @ 10:27 PM ET
Hyperbole much? If none of those things had happened do you think this off season would have gone any differently?
- 1970vintage


Sounds like you had a hell of a trip. Sorry we couldn’t squeeze you in for a tour. Next year. Hopefully.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 27 @ 10:28 PM ET
Woah woah, careful there, might get your feet held to the fire suggesting those guys are going to be playing in the top 6, let alone BOTH of them.

I'd actually think Podkolzin and Bo would be a better mesh, if they both play that strong north south game creating more room for Hoglander.

- NewYorkNuck



In the flat cap era where now raises to BB 7+M min qualifying; Demko, Petey, QH big money raises; they need those ELC's to bridge the talent gap up top.

Hogs may be chemistry wise Sven 2.0 to Bo and Podz the new Pearson. It won't all happen next season but that's where its headed.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 27 @ 10:33 PM ET
Woah woah, careful there, might get your feet held to the fire suggesting those guys are going to be playing in the top 6, let alone BOTH of them.

I'd actually think Podkolzin and Bo would be a better mesh, if they both play that strong north south game creating more room for Hoglander.

- NewYorkNuck

What if both of them aren’t good enough to play in the NHL and contribute? Then what? Play them anyways?
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 27 @ 10:36 PM ET
What if both of them aren’t good enough to play in the NHL and contribute? Than what? Play them anyways?
- Pacificgem


Better then Chaput and Megna... remember those options lol. As the bottom 6 bloated contracts go off the books they are getting replaced by Zacmac and Motte types. But the inflation of salary from the top players coming up offsets the savings. Leaving the need for ELC players to fit into top roles.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 27 @ 10:41 PM ET
Ideally Virt would be 3rd line

Miller - EP - Podz/JV
Hoglander - Bo - Boeser

Hoglander has very good play making ability and good two way play. He would slot there better than Bo IMO

- Retinalz



NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 27 @ 10:45 PM ET

- boonerbuck



Do you realize after slagging Podz for weeks you in being on the top line... wow flipflopped better then a politician
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 27 @ 10:47 PM ET
What if both of them aren’t good enough to play in the NHL and contribute? Then what? Play them anyways?
- Pacificgem


What if both of them come over and absolutely crush it, and then need huge contracts we can't fit under our cap? Then what? Trade them for scraps?

I guess we'll just have to wait and see
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 27 @ 11:01 PM ET
What if both of them come over and absolutely crush it, and then need huge contracts we can't fit under our cap? Then what? Trade them for scraps?

I guess we'll just have to wait and see

- NewYorkNuck

What’s the most probable scenario given what we know and what the odds are? For every Brock Boeser who comes in and forces his way into the the top six, on a poor team, there’s 200 second round picks who don’t ever play in the league let alone the bottom six.

Podkolzin has more upside because of his size and north south skating, I’m no expert but from what I’ve seen he needs a lot of work to be an NHL player.

Anyone putting either of these two in the top six is quite frankly a homer, heck I hope they turn into HHOF’ers....but I seriously doubt it.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 27 @ 11:05 PM ET
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 27 @ 11:08 PM ET
Yes. Absolutely. But Schmidt meant no Toffoli and obviously Schmidt is more important.
- CanuckDon


Who would have figured a divisional rival would hand a top pairing D to the Canucks?
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 27 @ 11:23 PM ET
What’s the most probable scenario given what we know and what the odds are? For every Brock Boeser who comes in and forces his way into the the top six, on a poor team, there’s 200 second round picks who don’t ever play in the league let alone the bottom six.

Podkolzin has more upside because of his size and north south skating, I’m no expert but from what I’ve seen he needs a lot of work to be an NHL player.

Anyone putting either of these two in the top six in quite frankly a homer, heck I hope they turn into HHOF’ers....but I seriously doubt it.

- Pacificgem


Are you the anti-Homer...? Congrats you get fan of the grass is always greener award from the anti-realist society of hockey armchair gods. But hey don't let the reality of the new NHL economics of talent gap ELC's throw you off.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 27 @ 11:36 PM ET
Do you realize after slagging Podz for weeks you in being on the top line... wow flipflopped better then a politician
- NuckUp


I didnt flip on anything fuk face.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Oct 27 @ 11:38 PM ET
What’s the most probable scenario given what we know and what the odds are? For every Brock Boeser who comes in and forces his way into the the top six, on a poor team, there’s 200 second round picks who don’t ever play in the league let alone the bottom six.

Podkolzin has more upside because of his size and north south skating, I’m no expert but from what I’ve seen he needs a lot of work to be an NHL player.

Anyone putting either of these two in the top six in quite frankly a homer, heck I hope they turn into HHOF’ers....but I seriously doubt it.

- Pacificgem

Good post. These kids are trying for one of 20 jobs. Not just against organizational prospects, but a league full of the best players in the world. Let them make it past the fringe first.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 27 @ 11:42 PM ET
Good post. These kids are trying for one of 20 jobs. Not just against organizational prospects, but a league full of the best players in the world. Let them make it past the fringe first.
- Load Management

First World Series win for the L.A. Dodgers since 1988...really good team
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Oct 27 @ 11:46 PM ET
First World Series win for the L.A. Dodgers since 1988...really good team
- Pacificgem

Awesome, I'm watching the 6th inning because I PVRed it.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 27 @ 11:51 PM ET
Awesome, I'm watching the 6th inning because I PVRed it.
- Load Management

...................sorry
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 27 @ 11:51 PM ET
What if both of them aren’t good enough to play in the NHL and contribute? Then what? Play them anyways?
- Pacificgem

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 27 @ 11:52 PM ET
Who would have figured a divisional rival would hand a top pairing D to the Canucks?

- VanHockeyGuy


The plan
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 09.22.2019

Oct 27 @ 11:58 PM ET
...................sorry
- Pacificgem

You're not sorry in the least.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Oct 28 @ 12:01 AM ET
Who would have figured a divisional rival would hand a top pairing D to the Canucks?

- VanHockeyGuy


You play teams within your division 4 times per season. You have to weight how much of an impact that one player going to have on the outcome of those 4 games. Maybe a couple of goals/points but is it enough to not be worth having them in the lineup for the other 78 games? It's a simple no bcus clearly we're seeing interdivisional trades more and more.

Ferraro talked about this last year and straight up said - GMs just don't see this as a big enough factor/deterrent to not trade from/to within.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 28 @ 12:05 AM ET
The plan
- Pres.cup

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 28 @ 12:09 AM ET
You play teams within your division 4 times per season. You have to weight how much of an impact that one player going to have on the outcome of those 4 games. Maybe a couple of goals/points but is it enough to not be worth having them in the lineup for the other 78 games? It's a simple no bcus clearly we're seeing interdivisional trades more and more.

Ferraro talked about this last year and straight up said - GMs just don't see this as a big enough factor/deterrent to not trade from/to within.

- Brooks_Light

Well the Vegas owner said it was because the Canucks are now playing in a Canadian division
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Oct 28 @ 12:15 AM ET
Well the Vegas owner said it was because the Canucks are now playing in a Canadian division
- CanuckDon


Oh well that must be the sole reason.

Forget what I said and every interdivisonal trade that was made prior to this "All Canadian Division" announcement that happened.....when exactly?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 28 @ 12:16 AM ET
Oh well that must be the sole reason.

Forget what I said and every interdivisonal trade that was made prior to this "All Canadian Division" announcement that happened.....when exactly?

- Brooks_Light

I just stated what the Vegas owner said when asked why he made the trade 🤷‍♂️What are you on about
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