Anothe blog filled with unrealistic expectations of moving Seabrook. LOL. Give it up. He is not going anywhere and won't be a problem when the Hawks are competitive again.

Sending any assets to move him only serves to set them back. You don't build aa team by signing mediocre FA to overpriced contracts.

You sign FAs to supplement your roster.
- Elbows15

You're contradicting yourself by saying you don't sign mediocre FAs to overpriced contracts and saying 7's contract won't be a problem. They extended him at a ridiculous contract that runs another 4 seasons at 6.875mil per cap hit. He has a ntc for 2 more seasons then a modified ntc for the final 2. If you think they're keeping him on the books for 4 seasons you're a fool. It's not happening if he's the nicest guy on earth or the best leader. He may play for us again but at the longest in 2yrs he'll be gone. And I'm the crazy person who has the nerve to say they're going to bury him sooner I guess. Ok, believe what you will. We will see who's crazy or not.

You're contradicting yourself by saying you don't sign mediocre FAs to overpriced contracts and saying 7's contract won't be a problem. They extended him at a ridiculous contract that runs another 4 seasons at 6.875mil per cap hit. He has a ntc for 2 more seasons then a modified ntc for the final 2. If you think they're keeping him on the books for 4 seasons you're a fool. It's not happening if he's the nicest guy on earth or the best leader. He may play for us again but at the longest in 2yrs he'll be gone. And I'm the crazy person who has the nerve to say they're going to bury him sooner I guess. Ok, believe what you will. We will see who's crazy or not.
- ctbullets

You’re crazy.

Two excellent outlaw country songwriters and performers have died in the last couple of days - Billy Joe Shaver (Old Five and Dimers Like Me, Old Chunk of Coal) and Jerry Jeff Walker (Mr. Bojangles).

If you have a streaming music service, request them - terrific Americana.

Alef ha-shalom.

Can you buyout retained salary. Seems I've seen that done by other teams with players we traded for?
- rpeters01

You can't buyout retained salary portion (so the Hawks can't do that with Maatta or Saad) but the team that has the player now can buy him out and then there would be a trickle down effect of what is on the books by the team that traded the player (the cap hit would be way less).

Example: if Maatta had been bought out by the Kings, the cap hit for the Kings would be like $555k while only $125k for the Hawks, both for 4 years.

Yeah, a total lack of respect for Tanner Kero and Jacob Nilsson.
- I Am The Breadman

I would never want to be 25 again. 35, maybe...25, no thanks.
- Ogilthorpe2

When you're 62 there's not a lot of difference between 25 and 35!

You can't buyout retained salary portion (so the Hawks can't do that with Maatta or Saad) but the team that has the player now can buy him out and then there would be a trickle down effect of what is on the books by the team that traded the player (the cap hit would be way less).

Example: if Maatta had been bought out by the Kings, the cap hit for the Kings would be like $555k while only $125k for the Hawks, both for 4 years.
- L_B_R

Seemed too good to be true.

You're contradicting yourself by saying you don't sign mediocre FAs to overpriced contracts and saying 7's contract won't be a problem. They extended him at a ridiculous contract that runs another 4 seasons at 6.875mil per cap hit. He has a ntc for 2 more seasons then a modified ntc for the final 2. If you think they're keeping him on the books for 4 seasons you're a fool. It's not happening if he's the nicest guy on earth or the best leader. He may play for us again but at the longest in 2yrs he'll be gone. And I'm the crazy person who has the nerve to say they're going to bury him sooner I guess. Ok, believe what you will. We will see who's crazy or not.
- ctbullets

The most salary that could be retained is $3.4375M. Who is going to take the other half of a guy who can't play anymore? He's a Hawk for life.

You're contradicting yourself by saying you don't sign mediocre FAs to overpriced contracts and saying 7's contract won't be a problem. They extended him at a ridiculous contract that runs another 4 seasons at 6.875mil per cap hit. He has a ntc for 2 more seasons then a modified ntc for the final 2. If you think they're keeping him on the books for 4 seasons you're a fool. It's not happening if he's the nicest guy on earth or the best leader. He may play for us again but at the longest in 2yrs he'll be gone. And I'm the crazy person who has the nerve to say they're going to bury him sooner I guess. Ok, believe what you will. We will see who's crazy or not.
- ctbullets

OK. I will play.

Yeah, not gonna happen. You have no idea what the word contradict means.

The most salary that could be retained is $3.4375M. Who is going to take the other half of a guy who can't play anymore? He's a Hawk for life.
- rpeters01

Everyone in his fantasyland.

The most salary that could be retained is $3.4375M. Who is going to take the other half of a guy who can't play anymore? He's a Hawk for life.
- rpeters01

I mentioned in another post my take is he sits on LTIR this entire upcoming season if they can't find a trade partner which is likely. After that the race is on to unload. I stated he may play some games as some kind of "tryout" or audition that he's healthy if they wanna go that route instead of the sit him out, stash him, and wait it out approach. In 2yrs it becomes modified ntc. He's not gonna be a hawk after 2yrs. If you mean hawk for life as in he never plays again and we bury him then maybe but he won't be on the roster in 4yrs.

You’re crazy.
- Ogilthorpe2

We shall see. Now you're on the list. You gonna eat crow if I'm right or just spout off dumb blurbs?

OK. I will play.

Yeah, not gonna happen. You have no idea what the word contradict means.
- Elbows15

Maybe my choice of words was incorrect but it made more sense than your statement.

Let's leave it at this instead of going round and round. If the hawks do what I'm saying and find a way out of seabrook's remaining 4yrs, then I'd like some apologies. I mean it's the least you could do, who ever is saying its "impossible" or "not happening". I'm willing to come on and take a beating if the opposite happens. I'm even willing to say he doesn't last 2yrs even tho I think its gonna be less than that. Deal? Then if toews or kane get traded before their 3yrs is up, oh it's really gonna be a blood bath lol. Seriously even if you bash me I enjoy the hawks banter.

Can we go back to talking potential trades so I can resume dreaming about getting Dylan Cozens in a Kane to Buffalo trade. Here's Wiz' pre-draft writeup on Cozens on DraftSite:

"Difference making power centre-wing with great wheels, powerful wide base and stride, motor, powerful shot and ability to use his hands to quickly take possessions and make plays. A big power player who will play in traffic every shift and do so with some nasty. His veracity in puck battles along the boards makes it necessary to “double cover’ him. World class skater who is very strong on his skates and shows added explosion on the attack, while being able to pass the biscuit with precision and touch. Point per game WHL rookie last season who commits to a 200 foot game. Armed with a deadly selection of shots. This man child isn't through filling in or building his muscle. Makes everyone around him better. Will cause problems in front, or from the perimeters. Exploits the defense and reads linemates well. Fluid non-stop player who plays hockey smartly and would fly through a wall to help his team win. Can project as a big centre as well as a big wing. The sky’s the limit."

Dach, Cozens, DCat, Kubalik, Reichel, Suter is a pretty good starting point from which to construct a very good and young top-9.
- EbonyRaptor

If I would have been GM, I probably would've drafted him. I liked him over Turcotte.

Thank god, I wasn't the GM.

Let's leave it at this instead of going round and round. If the hawks do what I'm saying and find a way out of seabrook's remaining 4yrs, then I'd like some apologies. I mean it's the least you could do, who ever is saying its "impossible" or "not happening". I'm willing to come on and take a beating if the opposite happens. I'm even willing to say he doesn't last 2yrs even tho I think its gonna be less than that. Deal? Then if toews or kane get traded before their 3yrs is up, oh it's really gonna be a blood bath lol. Seriously even if you bash me I enjoy the hawks banter.
- ctbullets

I think what others are saying, and where I agree with them, is that you don't trade assets for cap space when you're a rebuilding team. If the Hawks were a legitimate contender, I could see them trading Seabs to free up space to sign a FA that they feel would put them over the top. In their current situation, unless Seabs asks out, they keep him as 6/7, or LTIR him if possible. Keep in mind that LTIR requires independent Drs from the league to review his injuries.

Now, if they hit on their draft picks this year and next, and Suter is the real deal, and the young dmen step up, etc (basically, if everything comes up Bowman), THEN I could see them trying to
make a run by trading Seabs

We shall see. Now you're on the list. You gonna eat crow if I'm right or just spout off dumb blurbs?
- ctbullets

Go ahead and add me. I'm pretty sure Seabrook retires a Hawk. The only realistic scenario I can see play out where he doesn't would be some deal with the Kraken, but if the Hawks had to add their first which is likely a lottery pick or a high end prospect/s...no dice.

If I would have been GM, I probably would've drafted him. I liked him over Turcotte.

Thank god, I wasn't the GM.
- vabeachbear

Although it looks like Dach was a great pick, you just never know, Cozens could end up being the best of the 2019 draft class. We’ll know more in about three years.

Go ahead and add me. I'm pretty sure Seabrook retires a Hawk. The only realistic scenario I can see play out where he doesn't would be some deal with the Kraken, but if the Hawks had to add their first which is likely a lottery pick or a high end prospect/s...no dice.


- HawkintheD

Exactly, you will need a sweetener to get rid of one of my all time favorite Hawks, what type of sweetener? It all depends how he comes back from his surgeries, but I’m afraid the price to move him will be too high. He must likely will stay a Hawk for the duration of his contract. We shall see.

Exactly, you will need a sweetener to get rid of one of my all time favorite Hawks, what type of sweetener? It all depends how he comes back from his surgeries, but I’m afraid the price to move him will be too high. He most likely will stay a Hawk for the duration of his contract. We shall see.
- Angotti

Two excellent outlaw country songwriters and performers have died in the last couple of days - Billy Joe Shaver (Old Five and Dimers Like Me, Old Chunk of Coal) and Jerry Jeff Walker (Mr. Bojangles).

If you have a streaming music service, request them - terrific Americana.

Alef ha-shalom.
- StLBravesFan

I knew about JJW but didn't realize Shaver died. Tough week in Texas. Those guys were beauties. My favorite kind of music. Adios buckaroos.

Exactly, you will need a sweetener to get rid of one of my all time favorite Hawks, what type of sweetener? It all depends how he comes back from his surgeries, but I’m afraid the price to move him will be too high. He must likely will stay a Hawk for the duration of his contract. We shall see.
- Angotti

Yeah, I’m likely in fantasyland as well on this one but my hope is the surgeries worked and Seabs takes a sip from the fountain of youth and is able to play like a possible top 4 or at least a more than serviceable 3rd pairing guy.

Yeah, I’m likely in fantasyland as well on this one but my hope is the surgeries worked and Seabs takes a sip from the fountain of youth and is able to play like a possible top 4 or at least a more than serviceable 3rd pairing guy.
- HawkintheD

I think we need to look at the fact that this season most likely will not be a full 82 game season, so Seabs can have this season to round into playing shape. It's not like the Blackhawks are a favorite this season and will be leaning on him to be the #1 guy. This may be a perfect storm for him to get back closer to the player he was in a few seasons. Maybe think of this season as an extended pre-season for him.

I mentioned in another post my take is he sits on LTIR this entire upcoming season if they can't find a trade partner which is likely. After that the race is on to unload. I stated he may play some games as some kind of "tryout" or audition that he's healthy if they wanna go that route instead of the sit him out, stash him, and wait it out approach. In 2yrs it becomes modified ntc. He's not gonna be a hawk after 2yrs. If you mean hawk for life as in he never plays again and we bury him then maybe but he won't be on the roster in 4yrs.
- ctbullets

I may be mistaken here, but Seabrook was already deemed well enough to play as per his participation in practice during RTP. He chose to not play due to conditioning.

He would have to have a major setback (not out of the question) to be placed on LTIR.

Like reading about the Hawks prospects, makes you think positive about the future BUT I have always read the Hockey news and have saved certain issues to go back and read from time to time . One of the issues I have saved is TEAMS top prospects each year . Well I was throwing them out and quickly looked at the Hawks top ten for the last 6 or so years and it's amazing how very few have made it to the NHL for more then a cup of coffee. I guess my point is its fun to talk prospects but keep in mind the chances of them contributing to the Hawks is very small.