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ToddCordellVAN
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 09.04.2013

Oct 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Which team has had the worst off-season?
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Oct 29 @ 11:26 AM ET
Arizona signed Johan Larsson so they clearly won UFA, Sean

For real though, I think he and Pitlick will make a really effective bottom-6 line alongside Crouse or even Hunt.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Oct 29 @ 11:33 AM ET
There are more moves to come as teams in cap hell try to offload some salary to become cap compliant. And they can't rid themselves of the less than average players with bad contracts, but have to trade good players with decent contracts with "sweeteners"!
Detroit and Stevie will be receiving a couple of good players soon! ( as well as NJ, LA, Ott, CBJ, Nashville, and Florida)

bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Oct 29 @ 11:42 AM ET
Yotes had the worst series of events unfold before their eyes. If we ignore the draft, and forfeiture of draft picks, then you could argue the Sharks/Mtl/Panthers had the worst offseason.

Sharks did nothing, lost jumbo joe, and are set for another year of absolute failure.

Mtl traded away one of their most consistent scorers for a guy coming off surgery, essentially 2 years without playing good hockey. Paired with giving up a 2nd for a high priced backup, then extending him during the biggest goalie bargain UFA season I have ever witnessed, was just a mess of a deal. This was not necessary, and I still don't see how they plan on making the playoffs. Given Price/Webers age, I just don't like the makeup of this team.

Panthers are losing their two top wingers to free agency. How do they replace that? They ink Wennberg (who had a subpar season), And acquire 33 Hornqvist who is on the downswing of his great career. He will be making more money over the same term as Dadanov...... Oh, and Gudas gets 7.5M over the next 3 years. They simply got older, pricier, and gave up scoring and skill. I don't like those moves one bit.

Honerable mention Islanders. Your top 2 players are RFA's and you don't have the cap space for one of them at the moment. Something has to give.
DarthProbert
Joined: 06.29.2016

Oct 29 @ 11:48 AM ET
Reserve judgement til we see what Tampa ends up having to do to shed salary, since their preferred options aren't happening.

Also Chicago's really sucked. "Rebuilding" but not getting any futures back in trades, and letting one of their all-time greats walk for nothing; cause rebuilding teams don't need quality goaltending to insulate the young D. /s
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 12:46 PM ET
John Chayka really did an awful job in Arizona. Where is James Tanner at?
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Oct 29 @ 12:49 PM ET
Yotes had the worst series of events unfold before their eyes. If we ignore the draft, and forfeiture of draft picks, then you could argue the Sharks/Mtl/Panthers had the worst offseason.

Sharks did nothing, lost jumbo joe, and are set for another year of absolute failure.

Mtl traded away one of their most consistent scorers for a guy coming off surgery, essentially 2 years without playing good hockey. Paired with giving up a 2nd for a high priced backup, then extending him during the biggest goalie bargain UFA season I have ever witnessed, was just a mess of a deal. This was not necessary, and I still don't see how they plan on making the playoffs. Given Price/Webers age, I just don't like the makeup of this team.

Panthers are losing their two top wingers to free agency. How do they replace that? They ink Wennberg (who had a subpar season), And acquire 33 Hornqvist who is on the downswing of his great career. He will be making more money over the same term as Dadanov...... Oh, and Gudas gets 7.5M over the next 3 years. They simply got older, pricier, and gave up scoring and skill. I don't like those moves one bit.

Honerable mention Islanders. Your top 2 players are RFA's and you don't have the cap space for one of them at the moment. Something has to give.

- bikeguy99

This just in: Hoffman and Dadonov > Huberdeau. More at 7.
DarthProbert
Joined: 06.29.2016

Oct 29 @ 1:03 PM ET
Yotes had the worst series of events unfold before their eyes. If we ignore the draft, and forfeiture of draft picks, then you could argue the Sharks/Mtl/Panthers had the worst offseason.

Sharks did nothing, lost jumbo joe, and are set for another year of absolute failure.

Mtl traded away one of their most consistent scorers for a guy coming off surgery, essentially 2 years without playing good hockey. Paired with giving up a 2nd for a high priced backup, then extending him during the biggest goalie bargain UFA season I have ever witnessed, was just a mess of a deal. This was not necessary, and I still don't see how they plan on making the playoffs. Given Price/Webers age, I just don't like the makeup of this team.

Panthers are losing their two top wingers to free agency. How do they replace that? They ink Wennberg (who had a subpar season), And acquire 33 Hornqvist who is on the downswing of his great career. He will be making more money over the same term as Dadanov...... Oh, and Gudas gets 7.5M over the next 3 years. They simply got older, pricier, and gave up scoring and skill. I don't like those moves one bit.

Honerable mention Islanders. Your top 2 players are RFA's and you don't have the cap space for one of them at the moment. Something has to give.

- bikeguy99


Whatever one thinks of Domi, consistent he is not.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Oct 29 @ 1:06 PM ET
Wow. Nucks only bad move was not keeping Toffoli somehow. But if that means not eating it on a buy out or a sweetener that’s not to bad. But outs would hurt them when they need to pay those youngins. They avoided term to a goalie who may never repeat his best season and got a decent 1b to back up their new goalie in demko. A much better risk than betting on markstrom.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 29 @ 1:24 PM ET
If the Canucks sign Markstrom, they can't take on Schmidt's contract and they lose Demko to Seattle (or would be forced to trade him)

Markstrom wasn't signing anything without a NMC

You could argue they could have resigned Toffoli and rolled the dice with a cheap goalie instead of Holtby but no team was taking on bad contracts/dead money, so not sure how much blame can be given based in THIS offseason for an inability to free up cap space

Those terrible moves were made in years past. It's the reason Linden is gone as team president. To be clear, Linden wanted to stay the course with YOUTH and Benning sold ownership on "WINNING NOW" (ie: make the playoffs and playoff revenue) and Benning won the battle with ownership. Looking at Roussel, Beagle, Myers, Ferland (Basically all the contracts minus Loui they'd like to be rid of)
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Oct 29 @ 1:48 PM ET
Coyotes deserve a lifetime achievement award in this area.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 29 @ 2:21 PM ET
Coyotes deserve a lifetime achievement award in this area.
- bennythehat



and it gets even worse

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
1m
There is word ARIZ will renounce the rights for draft pick Mitchell Miller.
Levit8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Joined: 07.24.2015

Oct 29 @ 2:40 PM ET
James Tanner James Tanner James Tanner

Did it work?
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Oct 29 @ 3:51 PM ET
and it gets even worse

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
1m
There is word ARIZ will renounce the rights for draft pick Mitchell Miller.

- jimbro83


Bunch of Cucks

Can we take a look at Evander Kane’s past and give it the same level of scrutiny

Apparently people can’t grow or change so should he really be leading the diversity alliance?
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Oct 29 @ 4:17 PM ET
John Chayka really did an awful job in Arizona. Where is James Tanner at?
- MJL

I kind of miss that guy. The crap he took on here was legendary. But then I check out his Maple Leaf blog and he is ridiculed even more up north.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 29 @ 4:30 PM ET
Bunch of Cucks

Can we take a look at Evander Kane’s past and give it the same level of scrutiny

Apparently people can’t grow or change so should he really be leading the diversity alliance?

- RoloTahmasee


It wasn't just a one off thing and happened throughout hs and he knew what he was doing, it's not like he was a young kid and didn't know right from young

People make mistakes yes and people learn from them but it was a continuous thing and he only apologized when the court ordered him to
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Oct 29 @ 5:42 PM ET
and it gets even worse

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
1m
There is word ARIZ will renounce the rights for draft pick Mitchell Miller.

- jimbro83


Cool. He’s a free agent. Let’s bring him to Newark and have PK straighten him out.
FinnGod
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ND
Joined: 01.25.2018

Oct 29 @ 5:50 PM ET
Cool. He’s a free agent. Let’s bring him to Newark and have PK straighten him out.
- Queenie_5_hole

I would spend all the money in the world to let Wayne Simmonds get his hands on that poopstain Miller for 10 minutes.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Oct 29 @ 7:44 PM ET
This just in: Hoffman and Dadonov > Huberdeau. More at 7.
- MaximumBone



Didn't Huberdeau play C?
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Oct 29 @ 7:45 PM ET
Whatever one thinks of Domi, consistent he is not.
- DarthProbert


Sorry. Edit. Consistently outscored Anderson.

Of Domi's 5 NHL seasons, his worst total is 38 points which took him 59 games. Anderson's 6 seasons deep, and has only one season with more than 30 points. So I would consider Domi to be somewhat consistent. And his 2 year contract carries far less risk.
Puck Possession
Joined: 02.25.2020

Oct 29 @ 8:38 PM ET
Cordell, your take on the Canucks is so tainted with bias in light of the Coyotes headlines.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 29 @ 9:02 PM ET
Dmarsden

The thing is its 4 years ago. That puts him at 14 years old. Im pretty confident youll find something completely unacceptable in all their pasts. Not to mention makes in their teens are notoriously known to be like this. You dont think i wasnt bullied at 13-14? I was and i moved on. 2-3 years later i even ended up friends with sone of them

Not to mention this kid paid the price for what he did at the time. Past needs to be treated as the past. Its not like this is something nobody knew happened that went unpunished. At a certain point you need to move on
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Oct 30 @ 4:34 AM ET
Dmarsden

The thing is its 4 years ago. That puts him at 14 years old. Im pretty confident youll find something completely unacceptable in all their pasts. Not to mention makes in their teens are notoriously known to be like this. You dont think i wasnt bullied at 13-14? I was and i moved on. 2-3 years later i even ended up friends with sone of them

Not to mention this kid paid the price for what he did at the time. Past needs to be treated as the past. Its not like this is something nobody knew happened that went unpunished. At a certain point you need to move on

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



Did you read the whole story before pulling the typical cAnCeL cUlTuRe ViCtIm card? Oh right, you've also been bullied at a young age so it makes you an expert on what exactly happened.

Mitchell's bully-buddy apologized to the family. They forgave him. Mitchell apologized to the media and the NHL - never to the victim or family.

You say "At a certain point you need to move on". Well, at a certain point, you need to own to your acts and do the right thing. One guy did it, the other didn't figure out a few basic things. He can now redeem himself and reach the NHL by 22 if he fixes his poop together. Or he can just find another job. He will survive just fine.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 30 @ 11:32 AM ET
Kid was 14. I don't like the fact who he bullied was disabled, but he was 14. Give him a chance to grow and be a better person.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 30 @ 11:34 AM ET
I think the Canucks messed up with Toffoli but letting Markstrom walk was the right choice as he wanted money and term at his age. It was the right choice bc Demko is there and better. Holtby signing was not bad as you make it. He's there to guide and nurture Demko and is a safety mechanism.

I remember the Blues signing Elliott after he was pretty much done with his NHL career. Elliott's numbers were horrible. He was signed as a stop gap in case Bishop needed more time. Well, he played great as a 1b and had a career year. It would have been a great thing if the Blues had flipped him and got great assets in return. Instead they resigned him and traded a young Bishop for a second pick to Tampa and you know how that went.
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