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Benny Blanco
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Islip, Long Island, NY
Joined: 07.25.2020

Nov 3 @ 4:21 AM ET
Sometimes, even from a casual, it must be pointed out.

via GIPHY

bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Nov 3 @ 5:46 AM ET
I'm pretty sure you mean SHL. Unless there's some obscure league i've never heard of.

Weird stats from KHL and SHL
KHL u20 scoring
1. Yegor Chinakhov (RW) Avangard Omsk 20 7 6 13
2. Shakir Mukhamadullin (D) Salavat Yulaev Ufa 24 2 5 7
3. Rodion Amirov (LW/RW) Salavat Yulaev Ufa 19 3 3 6
4. Alexei Protas (C) Dinamo Minsk 20 4 1 5
5. Vasili Podkolzin (RW) SKA St. Petersburg 19 1 3 4

u21 SHL scoring
PLAYER TEAM GP G A TP
1. Jonatan Berggren (LW/RW) Skellefteå AIK 13 2 14 16
2. Lucas Raymond (RW/LW) Frölunda HC 13 5 2 7
3. Jack Drury (C) Växjö Lakers HC 12 0 7 7
4. Linus Öberg (C/W) Örebro HK 13 6 0 6
5. Alexander Holtz (RW) Djurgårdens IF 8 4 2 6
6. Albert Johansson (D) Färjestad BK 13 3 3 6
7. Helge Grans (D) Malmö Redhawks 11 2 4 6
8. Linus Nässén (C/W) Frölunda HC 13 2 4 6
9. Nils Höglander (LW) Rögle BK 11 1 5 6

- manvanfan

Way too much free time on your hands.

Try volunteering ladling soup at a homeless shelter...

Do something productive instead.

Thanks.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 3 @ 8:15 AM ET
I forgot that. Sorry. Good work btw. No one has put him in his place lately, except on Twitter.
- boonerbuck

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 3 @ 8:18 AM ET
Way too much free time on your hands.

Try volunteering ladling soup at a homeless shelter...

Do something productive instead.

Thanks.

- bruceflyers

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 3 @ 8:40 AM ET
Sometimes, even from a casual, it must be pointed out.

via GIPHY


- Benny Blanco


Truth.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 3 @ 9:00 AM ET
Yes, poopty use of a 5th overall pick, but he's doing better then Puljarvi in Edmonton so far. He'll be fine, 20g 40 point middle 6 players who are big and fast have value. He's better then Sven, cheaper, faster, bigger, better shot... not his fault he's a high draft pick, would probably still go in the middle of the 1st round in a redraft so not a big deal and not a bust.
- Pres.cup

Sven was taken 13th
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 3 @ 9:03 AM ET
Way too much free time on your hands.

Try volunteering ladling soup at a homeless shelter...

Do something productive instead.

Thanks.

- bruceflyers

I don't know about you but that like 12 seconds of copy and paste for each of those.

This isn't BC, there isn't a homeless shelter around every corner.

I did, I helped guys like Lefty and Pacific. They have always struggled.

You're welcome.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 3 @ 10:00 AM ET
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 3 @ 10:19 AM ET

- RealityChecker

Simpsons with another prediction that comes true. Man those guys are good.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 3 @ 10:25 AM ET
Sven was taken 13th
- manvanfan


Exactly, Virtanen would probably go in that range in a redraft and he's a better player then Sven.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 3 @ 10:27 AM ET
Good breakdown. But VHG was being sarcastic trolling from bongwater guzzling. He is with the Podz is a bust/bottom six player crowd. They don't see top 6 potential.
- NuckUp


Really?

I questioned your fanboyism and prediction Pod slots into the top 6 when Pearson goes, you leg humper.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 3 @ 10:39 AM ET
Simpsons with another prediction that comes true. Man those guys are good.
- manvanfan

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 3 @ 10:53 AM ET
Exactly, Virtanen would probably go in that range in a redraft and he's a better player then Sven.
- Pres.cup

I've combed over so many drafts to see where teams went wrong or got it right. Such an impossible task to get the picks even remotely correct.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 3 @ 10:55 AM ET
Really?

I questioned your fanboyism and prediction Pod slots into the top 6 when Pearson goes, you leg humper.

- VanHockeyGuy

DAZN was playing a bunch of Ska games and now it's like once every two weeks and other teams. It's pretty sad for so many of the younger KHL players. You are either Malkin or you struggle for ice time. If Russia had a better development plan, I think they would produce a lot more players.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 3 @ 11:02 AM ET
DAZN was playing a bunch of Ska games and now it's like once every two weeks and other teams. It's pretty sad for so many of the younger KHL players. You are either Malkin or you struggle for ice time. If Russia had a better development plan, I think they would produce a lot more players.
- manvanfan


Because of this players like Pod need to be developed properly when they arrive in NA.

Not thrown into top 6 duty like the slurpers want.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 3 @ 11:02 AM ET
You think McDonough or Lind have a shot for that role? Be an energy guy to chip in goals taking over from Roussel.
- NuckUp

I can see Lind as a 3rd line RW if his skating continues to improve. He has the tools & piss & vinegar I like.

McDonough has worked on his skating & another year of NCAA will show if he’s got a shot. 4th line imo with room to move up if he stands out.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 3 @ 11:05 AM ET
DAZN was playing a bunch of Ska games and now it's like once every two weeks and other teams. It's pretty sad for so many of the younger KHL players. You are either Malkin or you struggle for ice time. If Russia had a better development plan, I think they would produce a lot more players.
- manvanfan


That’s an interesting point. I looked up the stats of registered ice hockey players in Russia vs Canada. I was surprised at the difference considering each nation’s population.

Russia - 112,236
Canada - 621,026

Statistics according to the International Ice Hockey Federation.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 3 @ 11:12 AM ET
Because of this players like Pod need to be developed properly when they arrive in NA.

Not thrown into top 6 duty like the slurpers want.

- VanHockeyGuy


Better suited to be a bull 200’ player for Gaudette til he gets experience. Rather see more focus on 3 good lines & not focus as much on the top 6. Miller/Petey will be great with whoever is the 3rd wheel. If Boeser is with Bo the 2nd line will be more than adequate. That makes JV getting another shot on the 1st.

Miller Petey JV
Pearson Bo Boeser
Hoglander Gaudette Podkolzin

3rd line looks very young & exploitable but comes down to if not a defensive liability. Podk & Hoagie should be ok if insulated properly being a vet rotates in now & then.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 3 @ 11:13 AM ET
I can see Lind as a 3rd line RW if his skating continues to improve. He has the tools & piss & vinegar I like.

McDonough has worked on his skating & another year of NCAA will show if he’s got a shot. 4th line imo with room to move up if he stands out.

- Nighthawk


Yup, I like him as well. Have seen him play several times in Kelowna.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 3 @ 11:14 AM ET
I've combed over so many drafts to see where teams went wrong or got it right. Such an impossible task to get the picks even remotely correct.
- manvanfan

Even the historically worst drafting teams usually get the top picks right, at least six or seven times out of 10, which is where the Canucks probably fall into. If you look at our drafting early we actually drafted some really good players but kept trading them away to try and get better quickly. Building takes time. In Benning we trust!

Look at the 1979 draft, they drafted Rick Vaive, Brent Ashton and Dirk Graham, who had 1906 points between them in the NHL, but, Ashton only played a year and a half with Vancouver and Vaive half a year. It’s piss poor management more times than it’s piss poor players.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 3 @ 11:16 AM ET
Yup, I like him as well. Have seen him play several times in Kelowna.
- VanHockeyGuy

Against VGK their 3rd/4th lines out matched us imo. Lind would help in that regard. Podk as well.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
Against VGK their 3rd/4th lines out matched us imo. Lind would help in that regard. Podk as well.
- Nighthawk


After all that $ was spent.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 3 @ 11:20 AM ET
Even the historically worst drafting teams usually get the top picks right, at least six or seven times out of 10, which is where the Canucks probably fall into. If you look at our drafting early we actually drafted some really good players but kept trading them away to try and get better quickly. Building takes time. In Benning we trust!

Look at the 1979 draft, they drafted Rick Vaive, Brent Ashton and Dirk Graham, who had 1906 points between them in the NHL, but, Ashton only played a year and a half with Vancouver and Vaive half a year. It’s piss poor management more times than it’s piss poor players.

- Pacificgem


You had to bring this up.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 3 @ 11:22 AM ET
Even the historically worst drafting teams usually get the top picks right, at least six or seven times out of 10, which is where the Canucks probably fall into. If you look at our drafting early we actually drafted some really good players but kept trading them away to try and get better quickly. Building takes time. In Benning we trust!

Look at the 1979 draft, they drafted Rick Vaive, Brent Ashton and Dirk Graham, who had 1906 points between them in the NHL, but, Ashton only played a year and a half with Vancouver and Vaive half a year. It’s piss poor management more times than it’s piss poor players.

- Pacificgem

We drafted Vaive out of the old WHA & latter packaged him with Derlago for Tiger & Jerry Butler. Sounded lopsided but helped us go on the ‘82 cup run.

Ashton was a later on compensation for us signing Hlinka.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 3 @ 11:22 AM ET
That’s an interesting point. I looked up the stats of registered ice hockey players in Russia vs Canada. I was surprised at the difference considering each nation’s population.

Russia - 112,236
Canada - 621,026

Statistics according to the International Ice Hockey Federation.

- bloatedmosquito

Having more players to me should be more competition and produce greater results.

They have the KHL, VHL, VHL-B, MHL, NMHL leagues.

I think a lot of players like Podkolzin should be regular first line players in the VHL. Rather then sitting on the bench for 57 minutes a game in the KHL.
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