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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 3 @ 7:07 PM ET
I dunno, I find it hard to believe that a kid ranked as a top 10 prospect in the NHL pre draft(probably still top 15-20 after) doesn't have top 6 upside. I think his floor is a 3rd liner and his ceiling is a first liner myself.
- Retinalz




I think people are too worried about the stats with him. Scouts all agree he's an impact player, doesn't mean he will make it in the NHL or put up a lot of points but he brings other necessary elements to the game.

He's our best prospect and it's not particularly close.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 3 @ 7:10 PM ET
I dunno, I find it hard to believe that a kid ranked as a top 10 prospect in the NHL pre draft(probably still top 15-20 after) doesn't have top 6 upside. I think his floor is a 3rd liner and his ceiling is a first liner myself.
- Retinalz


I'll go with 3rd liner. I laugh at when Fanboys beat the top 6 drum. We'll need guys to help out there anyway when those dumb bottom 6 contacts expire anyway.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 3 @ 7:13 PM ET


I think people are too worried about the stats with him. Scouts all agree he's an impact player, doesn't mean he will make it in the NHL or put up a lot of points but he brings other necessary elements to the game.

He's our best prospect and it's not particularly close.

- belcherbd


I guess in comparison to Petey and Hughes, he's not a sure thing, which makes some people go dark.
I dunno.

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 3 @ 7:19 PM ET
I guess in comparison to Petey and Hughes, he's not a sure thing, which makes some people go dark.
I dunno.

- dbot



Minivan brought that up too. Plus I would add that those that didn't like the pick are more bolstered by his production numbers in the KHL.

Though dismissing Podz' potential is premature. The reality of the flat cap is his ELC and talent will be needed. They can't keep higher priced vets and will need prospects to fill the talent gap after paying our core.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 3 @ 7:24 PM ET
Pay attention fool. When did I once say I didn't like Pod? Never.

I merely stated he wasn't top 6 material when Pearson is gone, or EVER for that matter.

Don't twist my words to suit the rainbow and bunny rabbit world you live in.

- VanHockeyGuy


You get all knotted up over thing you don't like in general as opposed to what you accused me of doing which is just stating reality.

As for Podz I never twisted your words I have shown how wrong you are to dismiss his ceiling and only look at his floor. Plus not recognize the flat cap will require top prospects to fill in support roles for the core.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 3 @ 7:30 PM ET
I guess in comparison to Petey and Hughes, he's not a sure thing, which makes some people go dark.
I dunno.

- dbot

Some ppl see top 6 are all stars when a complimentary player can still be a key top 6 player. Hyman comes to mind.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 3 @ 7:35 PM ET
You get all knotted up over thing you don't like in general as opposed to what you accused me of doing which is just stating reality.

As for Podz I never twisted your words I have shown how wrong you are to dismiss his ceiling and only look at his floor. Plus not recognize the flat cap will require top prospects to fill in support roles for the core.

- NuckUp


Once again pal, show me where I said I hated Pod. It's that simple.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 3 @ 7:37 PM ET
Only dumb ones were LE & the extra year on Beagle. Otherwise I won’t lump all of them in together. JB didn’t take Glass so no clue what your point is there.
- Nighthawk


Extra year of Roussel, two extra years and 1m to much for Beagle, 1 or 2m to much for Sutter, 1m to much for Benn..... plus the NTC those players have make them bad contracts.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 3 @ 7:49 PM ET
Once again pal, show me where I said I hated Pod. It's that simple.
- VanHockeyGuy



I never said you did so not sure why you are asking that. Your 3rd line prediction may be right but its his floor. I even brought that up with Mivivan on Lind/McDonough on the difference of were these prospects floors and ceilings are at.

But a prospect will have to step up to take over for players like Pearson going out. JV is already trying to fill one spot with TT gone.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 3 @ 7:58 PM ET
You get all knotted up over thing you don't like in general as opposed to what you accused me of doing which is just stating reality.

As for Podz I never twisted your words I have shown how wrong you are to dismiss his ceiling and only look at his floor. Plus not recognize the flat cap will require top prospects to fill in support roles for the core.

- NuckUp



You twist words into sentences and paragraphs that lack cohesion and lose any comprehensible logic nonsense talk missing punctuation makes it difficult to understand over and above that logical fallacy is the fact that your hot takes are 5050 hot garbage mixed with sensible ideas between this disaster of posts and your background as NFU where you came on very strong and antagonistic caused many to dislike the way you talk down on others and name call when they disagree with you you refuse to name the king troll I keep going is me but I feel I'm one of the two or three you referenced.

Pod could be a good middle 6 player, doesn't make him a bust, doesn't make him a top winger either. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean people are leg humpers or guzzlers. Like I've said before, you keep telling people to guzzle, I'll keep telling you to spit, but to each their own.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 3 @ 8:01 PM ET
You get all knotted up over thing you don't like in general as opposed to what you accused me of doing which is just stating reality.

As for Podz I never twisted your words I have shown how wrong you are to dismiss his ceiling and only look at his floor. Plus not recognize the flat cap will require top prospects to fill in support roles for the core.

- NuckUp


Exhibit A of how to talk to people which makes them dislike you
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:12 PM ET



I'm not frustrated talking hockey but are you going to step up and ban the trolls?

- NuckUp

Nope, I don’t ban for hurt feelings, wrong type of ref.







Besides I only protect Marwood 🤷‍♂️
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 3 @ 8:18 PM ET
Extra year of Roussel, two extra years and 1m to much for Beagle, 1 or 2m to much for Sutter, 1m to much for Benn..... plus the NTC those players have make them bad contracts.
- Pres.cup

Roussel was fine.
Just say you hate Beagle.
Hindsight used conveniently on Sutters injuries.
Benn wouldn’t sign for 1m so who then?

All in all it’s easy to look back. I see all those signings as depth needs at the time. Beagle a year too long. Didn’t care at all to sign Benn.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 3 @ 8:22 PM ET
Exhibit A of how to talk to people which makes them dislike you
- Pres.cup

Not your fight he can stand up for himself. Watch the election if you wanna pick sides lol
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:26 PM ET
Exhibit A of how to talk to people which makes them dislike you
- Pres.cup

Seriously, the majority of people here do the exact same, come on man, everyone must dislike everyone
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 3 @ 8:27 PM ET
Nope, I don’t ban for hurt feelings, wrong type of ref.







Besides I only protect Marwood 🤷‍♂️

- Makita


Well get off your ass. He's still trending on Twitter....
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 3 @ 8:29 PM ET
Seriously, the majority of people here do the exact same, come on man, everyone must dislike everyone
- Makita

You’re only a ref let him play judge lol
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 3 @ 8:29 PM ET
Nope, I don’t ban for hurt feelings, wrong type of ref.







Besides I only protect Marwood 🤷‍♂️

- Makita



No ones feelings are hurt except for the trolls. Perhaps you should look at posting behavior that only intention is to disrupt hockey talk on this thread. I can name you one other who's totally guilty of it.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:30 PM ET
Roussel was fine. YES
Just say you hate Beagle. He does, I DON’T
Hindsight used conveniently on Sutters injuries. YES Hindsight is used constantly
Benn wouldn’t sign for 1m so who then? Benning can just grab any D, if he cannot he’s an idiot.

All in all it’s easy to look back. I see all those signings as depth needs at the time. Beagle a year too long. Didn’t care at all to sign Benn.

- Nighthawk

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:36 PM ET
No ones feelings are hurt except for the trolls. Perhaps you should look at posting behavior that only intention is to disrupt hockey talk on this thread. I can name you one other who's totally guilty of it.
- NuckUp

As I say to my 3 beautiful girls, suck it up buttercup.

I did recommend not engaging the “trolls”, so as Lordy likes to point out, “it is what it is”
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 3 @ 8:36 PM ET
Roussel was fine.
Just say you hate Beagle.
Hindsight used conveniently on Sutters injuries.
Benn wouldn’t sign for 1m so who then?

All in all it’s easy to look back. I see all those signings as depth needs at the time. Beagle a year too long. Didn’t care at all to sign Benn.

- Nighthawk


Roussel isn't bad, in 2 more seasons it'll be bad, 3m for a 4LW is to much.
Beagle was redundant with Sutter here, 3m for a 4LC isn't good, if it was 2mx4 years it's more palatable.
You're right about Benn, if he wouldn't sign for what a 6/7 should get paid, JB shouldn't have signed him.
You're right about Sutter, I liked the trade but felt it was a little overpayment at the time, not much, the NTC was what I didn't like, same with the Beagle NTC. Seems silly to give bottom line guys a NTC.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 3 @ 8:39 PM ET
Seriously, the majority of people here do the exact same, come on man, everyone must dislike everyone
- Makita




Shouldn't you be defending Marwood, instead of being all sensible?

I hate you the best.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 3 @ 8:40 PM ET
No ones feelings are hurt except for the trolls. Perhaps you should look at posting behavior that only intention is to disrupt hockey talk on this thread. I can name you one other who's totally guilty of it.
- NuckUp

You really need a doobie & snickers lol
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:41 PM ET


Shouldn't you be defending Marwood, instead of being all sensible?

I hate you the best.

- Pres.cup



Marwood is hiding out at the woodpile.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 3 @ 8:42 PM ET
Roussel isn't bad, in 2 more seasons it'll be bad, 3m for a 4LW is to much.
Beagle was redundant with Sutter here, 3m for a 4LC isn't good, if it was 2mx4 years it's more palatable.
You're right about Benn, if he wouldn't sign for what a 6/7 should get paid, JB shouldn't have signed him.
You're right about Sutter, I liked the trade but felt it was a little overpayment at the time, not much, the NTC was what I didn't like, same with the Beagle NTC. Seems silly to give bottom line guys a NTC.

- Pres.cup

That’s reasonable to accept 👍
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