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pker2theend
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Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Nov 5 @ 2:46 PM ET
Bet365 Odds


- VanHockeyGuy


Stop the counts in PA, MI, WI

Continue counts in NV, AZ

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 5 @ 2:56 PM ET
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 5 @ 3:04 PM ET
Fair enough, I will amend it to ignorant.
- Retinalz


Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 5 @ 3:25 PM ET
So the blacks who voted Trump again are racists? Interesting concept.

- boonerbuck


Fun fact, more black and Hispanic voters voted for Trump then any other republican candidate in history. Bunch of racists.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 5 @ 3:25 PM ET
Just like many Democrats will vote for the party and not the candidate. Are they all stupid as well? Are you saying all Americans are stupid? Both candidates are trash
- CanuckDon

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 5 @ 3:27 PM ET
So the blacks who voted Trump again are racists? Interesting concept.

- boonerbuck

lol probably best if you didn't try to explain it to him.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 5 @ 3:28 PM ET
Oh! It's going to be one of those days in here today.....................pass.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 5 @ 3:38 PM ET
Fun fact, more black and Hispanic voters voted for Trump then any other republican candidate in history. Bunch of racists.
- Pres.cup


only a Trumpist would say that out loud. Not even close.



But he did increase his percentage among black and Latino men.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 5 @ 3:51 PM ET
It's simple, there are a lot of closet racists/sexists out there that are too afraid to let people know how they feel, and then Trump comes along and they now feel empowered to be openly racist/sexist because "If the President does it, it must be ok." And that is where your Trumpets come from. Everyone that supports him will never be able to convince me that they are not a racists. I have friends that I always thought were a bit racist(never openly said anything truly racists, but always said the whole "I have a black friend so it's ok...") and they love Trump, they let more racists comments slip now a days as well.
- Retinalz


Its a lot more complicated then the obvious "deplorables" and "silent majority" labels. Populist/autocrat/neo-Fascism policies are attractive to different people across many diverse groups. One common factor is fueling prejudices along cultural/socio-economic lines. Add in messages, that stoke fears and depict strength to combat, and its a powerful attraction.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Nov 5 @ 3:59 PM ET
Stop The Count!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 5 @ 4:06 PM ET
Its a lot more complicated then the obvious "deplorables" and "silent majority" labels. Populist/autocrat/neo-Fascism policies are attractive to different people across many diverse groups. One common factor is fueling prejudices along cultural/socio-economic lines. Add in messages that stoke fears and depict strength to combat and its a powerful attraction.
- NuckUp





dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 5 @ 4:24 PM ET
only a Trumpist would say that out loud. Not even close.



But he did increase his percentage among black and Latino men.

- bloatedmosquito





But it sounded good for a minute there.
The amount of misinformation being tossed around is truly staggering.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 5 @ 4:33 PM ET
only a Trumpist would say that out loud. Not even close.



But he did increase his percentage among black and Latino men.

- bloatedmosquito


Most votes does not mean highest percentage, those are two totally different things, 11 percent in 04 was less total votes then 8 percent in 2020 and trust me, it was far more votes then the 40 percent in 42.

Total votes means total individual voters, not highest percentage of total voters. Google it, it's true. Can't find it now but it was on NBC last night.

Speaking of misinformation...... lol.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Nov 5 @ 4:38 PM ET
Total votes, not highest percentage. Google it, it's true.
- Pres.cup



Plus the pic only shows 2016, so there's that too.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Nov 5 @ 4:41 PM ET
Oh yeah


"Remember remember
the 5th of November,
the gunpowder treason and plot.
I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason...
should ever be forgot."

Happy Guy Fawkes Day
Pres.cup
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Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 5 @ 4:44 PM ET
Plus the pic only shows 2016, so there's that too.
- WelfareWerewolf



Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 5 @ 4:45 PM ET
Oh yeah


"Remember remember
the 5th of November,
the gunpowder treason and plot.
I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason...
should ever be forgot."

Happy Guy Fawkes Day

- WelfareWerewolf


Eat the rich.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 5 @ 4:46 PM ET
You didn't understand my statement. Voting for a party doesn't always mean you are voting specifically for that parties nominee. but as VHG stated, I all amend the word 'stupid' to 'ignorant'. I am talking specifically about he people who love Trump no matter how bad of a job he is doing, how terrible of a person he is, the treason he has committed. These people worship him like they would a god, and for those people I will only use the word stupid to describe them.
- Retinalz


Dangerous oversimplification. Trump is extremely popular with a number of groups:

- Uneducated people
- Stupid people
- Ignorant people
- Greedy people
- Religious right people
- Racist white people
- Gun people
- Anarchists
- Sycophants

Sure there may be some overlap among the above groups but, fortunately for him, there are plenty of registered American voters who fit one or more of those descriptions.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Nov 5 @ 4:50 PM ET
Dangerous oversimplification. Trump is extremely popular with a number of groups:

- Uneducated people
- Stupid people
- Ignorant people
- Greedy people
- Religious right people
- Racist white people
- Gun people
- Anarchists
- Sycophants

Sure there may be some overlap among the above groups but, fortunately for him, there are plenty of registered American voters who fit one or more of those descriptions.

- YeOldTimer




Look in the mirror. Do you like yourself even? Bigots deal in grouping people to dismiss them. Normal people give their neighbour the benefit of the doubt. Keep talking though.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Nov 5 @ 5:02 PM ET
Eat the rich.
- Pres.cup


Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 5 @ 5:12 PM ET
Look in the mirror. Do you like yourself even? Bigots deal in grouping people to dismiss them. Normal people give their neighbour the benefit of the doubt. Keep talking though.
- WelfareWerewolf


If I understand your post correctly I feel you are trying to be unbiased in your acceptance ("Normal People") of everyone's point of view or beliefs.

I was on a cruise last year at this time, I meet a lot of people, all the americans wanted to immediately give their affiliation right of the top, "
Really rich Florida couple - I had to reevaluate my friends because they were opening supporting trump.

Rich religious New Orleans developer couple - I don't understand how anyone wouldn't vote for Trump...look at the economy.

It was always the same with every couple we met, for ten days.. so all these "Normal People" were definitely not giving any benefit of doubt.

Over 5000 on the cruise...BTW not one Canadian we met needed to tell us about their affiliation to the Liberals or CRAP parties.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 5 @ 5:15 PM ET
Look in the mirror. Do you like yourself even? Bigots deal in grouping people to dismiss them. Normal people give their neighbour the benefit of the doubt. Keep talking though.
- WelfareWerewolf



As you'll notice, I didn't actually group anyone. But Trump and his team have. His success is based on appealing to new definitions that are more individualistic than traditional demographics.

The Democrats are still trying to appeal to blacks, hispanics, suburban women, etc. while Trump and his group are targeting angry people. Angry stupid people. Angry uneducated people. Angry gun people. Angry religious people, etc.

And hey, thanks!

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 5 @ 5:15 PM ET
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- VanHockeyGuy



Owning up to your addiction is the first step. Educating yourself may deliver you from ignorance.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Nov 5 @ 5:19 PM ET
If I understand your post correctly I feel you are trying to be unbiased in your acceptance ("Normal People") of everyone's point of view or beliefs.

I was on a cruise last year at this time, I meet a lot of people, all the americans wanted to immediately give their affiliation right of the top, "
Really rich Florida couple - I had to reevaluate my friends because they were opening supporting trump.

Rich religious New Orleans developer couple - I don't understand how anyone wouldn't vote for Trump...look at the economy.

It was always the same with every couple we met, for ten days.. so all these "Normal People" were definitely not giving any benefit of doubt.

Over 5000 on the cruise...BTW not one Canadian we met needed to tell us about their affiliation to the Liberals or CRAP parties.

- Makita




Kinda my point. If you like "beat It" does it make you a child molester? I don't think my love for "Crocodile Rock" makes me gay. I posted Trump meme's = racist.

Were all the people you talked to gun nuts too? Racist? Uneducated?
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Nov 5 @ 5:20 PM ET
As you'll notice, I didn't actually group anyone. But Trump and his team have. His success is based on appealing to new definitions that are more individualistic than traditional demographics.

The Democrats are still trying to appeal to blacks, hispanics, suburban women, etc. while Trump and his group are targeting angry people. Angry stupid people. Angry uneducated people. Angry gun people. Angry religious people, etc.

And hey, thanks!

- YeOldTimer



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