You and I seldom agree. This is one of those moments.
- Rinosaur

Hahah ok bud. No problem about it just don’t call me a Jacko lover. I do believe Matheson will do better though lol

He won't be able to complete sentences within a year. Book it.
- madmike71

It’s too bad but hopefully his crew will help him and Kamala can bring something good to the table.

Yes, and a bigot, too. Then he deleted tweets and retweets. So maybe he's a coward, too? And of course the NHL gives him an award this year to put the cherry on top of the sh!t sundae.
- Hockey66

Yeah nothing wrong if he likes Trump but don’t jump the boat when it’s sinking. Stay true to his beliefs (it’s hard for me to say this. F him lol)

He won't be able to complete sentences within a year. Book it.
- madmike71

Curious to see what happens in the courts (if anything). Seems like a bunch of (frank)ery as gone on.

Yeah nothing wrong if he likes Trump but don’t jump the boat when it’s sinking. Stay true to his beliefs (it’s hard for me to say this. F him lol)
- Barnaby36

You'd think if he was a racist, he'd love "You ain't black" Biden considering Biden is more racist than Trump.

Curious to see what happens in the courts (if anything). Seems like a bunch of (frank)ery as gone on.
- j.boyd919

Nothing will happen. It’s over.

Nothing will happen. It’s over.
- Rinosaur

Yeah, I know because Al Gore's victory wasn't changed or anything. I don't really think anything will, but the election was a total gong show.

At least COVID should be over since the Dems militarized it to get mail in voting for their corpse of a candidate.

Yeah, I know because Al Gore's victory wasn't changed or anything. I don't really think anything will, but the election was a total gong show.
- j.boyd919

I've been watching every single news outlet. Everyone from both republican and democrat senators, former campaign people, lawyers, etc... they all say recounts never change than more than a couple of hundred votes either way. Every election from mayor the senator have levels of abnormalities, minor fraud and just simple human error, but its never enough to have profound effect on the outcome.

The election was a total gong show. Some states like Ohio and Florida were allowed to prepare the mail-in ballots for scanning days before the election and count them first which is why they finished on time. States like PA, AZ and GA were not. They all need to fix that poop because I'm sure voting by mail is going to be the new norm.

I've been watching every single news outlet. Everyone from both republican and democrat senators, former campaign people, lawyers, etc... they all say recounts never change than more than a couple of hundred votes either way. Every election from mayor the senator have levels of abnormalities, minor fraud and just simple human error, but its never enough to have profound effect on the outcome.

The election was a total gong show. Some states like Ohio and Florida were allowed to prepare the mail-in ballots for scanning days before the election and count them first which is why they finished on time. States like PA, AZ and GA were not. They all need to fix that poop because I'm sure voting by mail is going to be the new norm.
- Rinosaur

I would say that would be true had it been a traditional in person election, but with mail in voting, it could be different. I still don't think anything will come out of it, but I definitely believe the Dems stole this election for sure. Nothing about it feels legitimate. When Obama won? Yeah it felt legitimate and it was more like "ah well, get em next time" but this election definitely has a feeling of illegitimacy to it.

I mean, the Dems cried and cried for 4 years that Russia interfered with the election in 2016, now all of a sudden you're supposed to trust that same party that this election's integrity is in tact? Yeah okay lol

Voting by mail is a gong show. Honestly in 2020, it should be done electronically.

I've been watching every single news outlet. Everyone from both republican and democrat senators, former campaign people, lawyers, etc... they all say recounts never change than more than a couple of hundred votes either way. Every election from mayor the senator have levels of abnormalities, minor fraud and just simple human error, but its never enough to have profound effect on the outcome.

The election was a total gong show. Some states like Ohio and Florida were allowed to prepare the mail-in ballots for scanning days before the election and count them first which is why they finished on time. States like PA, AZ and GA were not. They all need to fix that poop because I'm sure voting by mail is going to be the new norm.
- Rinosaur

This was way more than minor abnormalities. Way more. We had 150 year old people vote in Allegheny county. You can believe what you want, but if everything was legit, why did the dems in the big cities not allow anybody to watch the counting of the ballets? It's comical. USA just became a banana republic. My only enjoyment will be watching the economy tank like the titanic in the world of Covid.

I would say that would be true had it been a traditional in person election, but with mail in voting, it could be different. I still don't think anything will come out of it, but I definitely believe the Dems stole this election for sure. Nothing about it feels legitimate. When Obama won? Yeah it felt legitimate and it was more like "ah well, get em next time" but this election definitely has a feeling of illegitimacy to it.

I mean, the Dems cried and cried for 4 years that Russia interfered with the election in 2016, now all of a sudden you're supposed to trust that same party that this election's integrity is in tact? Yeah okay lol

Voting by mail is a gong show. Honestly in 2020, it should be done electronically.
- j.boyd919

I'm not going to get into this discussion too deeply because it will just go round and round. I don't think they stole it. I believe there's always minor levels of fraud on both sides. With the insane number of voting precincts there are, to think that only one party is pulling any shenanigans is foolish. There are observers all over the place.

I only think some people feel it's not legitimate because Trump has done a good job of making people think that. So many people on FOX News have even been saying it's legit. He's just been sinking these thoughts into the public for a whole year. VERY conservative GOP guys have come out and said it's legit and no signs of major fraud.

What's sad, like you said at the end, is how it's being done. At the level of technology we're at in the world there's no reason why there isn't a more efficient and accurate mode of voting.

I talked about this with my buddy and I think we should vote through the IRS website. It's secure and every voter can validate their identity by confirming information from prior tax returns. Nobody can vote twice, you capture everyone and it basically takes census information at the same time. And if you don't file your taxes, then well, you better start lol.

I would say that would be true had it been a traditional in person election, but with mail in voting, it could be different. I still don't think anything will come out of it, but I definitely believe the Dems stole this election for sure. Nothing about it feels legitimate. When Obama won? Yeah it felt legitimate and it was more like "ah well, get em next time" but this election definitely has a feeling of illegitimacy to it.

I mean, the Dems cried and cried for 4 years that Russia interfered with the election in 2016, now all of a sudden you're supposed to trust that same party that this election's integrity is in tact? Yeah okay lol

Voting by mail is a gong show. Honestly in 2020, it should be done electronically.
- j.boyd919

Joe Biden outperformed Obama's first election in Wisconsin. Anybody that believes that is real is willfully delusional.

Joe Biden outperformed Obama's first election in Wisconsin. Anybody that believes that is real is willfully delusional.
- madmike71

A record number of people came out to vote. This isn't a typical election. Biden also underperformed Hillary in Philly. Trump performed 2% better in Philly than he did in 2016. Things just change.

Also, Biden is following Trump, not Obama. Trump made minority communities to vote in record numbers because they were unhappy with him in WI, MI and GA.

EDIT: I phrased that weird. I don't mean he only angered the minority communities in those states, but I meant in those states you had record numbers of minority votes in the major cities.

A record number of people came out to vote. This isn't a typical election. Biden also underperformed Hillary in Philly. Trump performed 2% better in Philly than he did in 2016. Things just change.
- Rinosaur

It wasn't a typical election because they blindly mailed millions of ballets to people who didn't request them, then they didn't allow one party to watch them get counted.

That's totally normal...

It wasn't a typical election because they blindly mailed millions of ballets to people who didn't request them, then they didn't allow one party to watch them get counted.

That's totally normal...
- madmike71

They did allow them. That's been disproven all over the place. Trump's lawyers already admitted as much in court. If you're disgruntled about losing, I get it, but to just throw stuff around because you're upset is just not good. I promise I get it, this was an emotional election.

They didn't blindly do anything. GA is a is run by republicans. A republican governor and republican secretary of state. It's been been as clean as any other election.

Also, the dems didn't take back the senate and LOST seats in the house. If they committed fraud they're pretty bad at it when every poll had the dems taking over the Senate.

Republicans outperformed the Democrats overall in this election.

They did allow them. That's been disproven all over the place. Trump's lawyers already admitted as much in court. If you're disgruntled about losing, I get it, but to just throw stuff around because you're upset is just not good.

They didn't blindly do anything. GA is a is run by republicans. A republican governor and republican secretary of state. It's been been as clean as any other election.
- Rinosaur

Believe what you want.... Socialism here we come. Gonna be fun watching the commie Kamala trying to make it work. 4 years from now when the country is in perpetual recession they'll still be blaming trump.

They did allow them. That's been disproven all over the place. Trump's lawyers already admitted as much in court. If you're disgruntled about losing, I get it, but to just throw stuff around because you're upset is just not good. I promise I get it, this was an emotional election.

They didn't blindly do anything. GA is a is run by republicans. A republican governor and republican secretary of state. It's been been as clean as any other election.

Also, the dems didn't take back the senate and LOST seats in the house. If they committed fraud they're pretty bad at it when every poll had the dems taking over the Senate.

Republicans outperformed the Democrats overall in this election.
- Rinosaur

That's because of the bajillion "voters" who didn't vote down the ticket lol I honestly don't believe that many people ONLY voted in the presidential race and didn't fill the rest of their ballet, that's some bullpoop.

Believe what you want.... Socialism here we come. Gonna be fun watching the commie Kamala trying to make it work. 4 years from now when the country is in perpetual recession they'll still be blaming trump.
- madmike71

Dude, come one. There's no socialism. Stop parroting the propaganda. You're better than that.

That's because of the bajillion "voters" who didn't vote down the ticket lol I honestly don't believe that many people ONLY voted in the presidential race and didn't fill the rest of their ballet, that's some bullpoop.
- j.boyd919

Come on, man. The pendulum swings for every party and it just didn't swing Trump's way. I think the propaganda from the right and the media did a great job and that's it. IMO the media needs to change more than the government right now. I think they're so irresponsible with how they decide to funnel the news to us.

We can just agree to disagree on this. lol

Dude, come one. There's no socialism. Stop parroting the propaganda. You're better than that.
- Rinosaur

I suggest you do some research into Kamala and Bernie Sanders. That's who will be running the country in a couple of months.

I suggest you do some research into Kamala and Bernie Sanders. That's who will be running the country in a couple of months.
- madmike71

I've done plenty. I suggest you do yours from places other than FOX or right wing media. On a side note, this country has had socialist programs since the 50's and things they're suggesting are no different that.

EDIT: Also, unless the dems take both GA seats in January, NOTHING is getting done for the next two years outside of Biden reversing all of Trump's exec. decisions.

The weirdest thing to me is that a week ago Sean Connery dies and today Alex Trebek dies. I mean, when you think of the SNL skits, it's so weird they died so close together lol

I've done plenty. I suggest you do yours from places other than FOX or right wing media. On a side note, this country has had socialist programs since the 50's and things they're suggesting are no different that.
- Rinosaur

Sure we have socialist programs. SS, Medicare, Medicaide, etc. They're about 100 trillion short of being solvent. We're already a banana republic financially. Our only prayer was pro-growth policies. Low taxes. Low regulations. Hi employment numbers. Poof.... Now that's gone. You'll see.

Fox news if for idiots. Haven't watched it in years.

Sure we have socialist programs. SS, Medicare, Medicaide, etc. They're about 100 trillion short of being solvent. We're already a banana republic financially. Our only prayer was pro-growth policies. Low taxes. Low regulations. Hi employment numbers. Poof.... Now that's gone. You'll see.

Fox news if for idiots. Haven't watched it in years.
- madmike71

Well on a serious note... Is anyone watching Mandolorian?

A record number of people came out to vote. This isn't a typical election. Biden also underperformed Hillary in Philly. Trump performed 2% better in Philly than he did in 2016. Things just change.

Also, Biden is following Trump, not Obama. Trump made minority communities to vote in record numbers because they were unhappy with him in WI, MI and GA.

EDIT: I phrased that weird. I don't mean he only angered the minority communities in those states, but I meant in those states you had record numbers of minority votes in the major cities.
- Rinosaur

Don't get dragged into it with these (frank)ing idiots Rino.