You're assuming mail in ballots in Florida were all for the Dems? Ok, ill play that game. What about 100% of the ballots that were received after Michigan had a counting stoppage were all for Biden? No Republicans sent in mail in ballots? That...is another case of fraud but it couldnt be because 31 instances only.
- nateca44

Of course some did but the Republican President told his voters not to use mail in ballots and his admin tried to suppress it. Now who do you think is more likely to use mail in ballots this year with Covid still spiking there? could it be the portion of the population that either respects or fears Covid? Aka Democrats

Voting has never been conducted in such a manner that was this years election. The voting process was completely against the norms which kind of throws these previous study’s out the window. Politifact isn’t exactly the most neutral fact checking website either.
- j.boyd919

Well there's other sources there too. Voter fraud is extremely rare compared to the massive amount of votes.

Different year for voting for sure but all within the law...or most all. I'm sure there will be things turn up that have to be dismissed/not counted but I dont see it all amounting to enough to overturn the election.

I'm a centrist in my own country. So I dont really swing either way in the USA either. I'm quite capable of looking at everything going on there with absolutely no bias or emotion to the outcome. I think both USA candidates this year were crap for different reasons...just like with my country's candidates last year.

You're assuming mail in ballots in Florida were all for the Dems? Ok, ill play that game. What about 100% of the ballots that were received after Michigan had a counting stoppage were all for Biden? No Republicans sent in mail in ballots? That...is another case of fraud but it couldnt be because 31 instances only.
- nateca44

You’re ignoring the stats that showed Dems did mail-in at 70% click to Republicans in most states.

Wrong about MI, so get your facts straight and ignore everything I said about voter suppression which is well documented and also the large number of mail-in ballots withheld in NC that should have gone to the polls. NC could have gone completely the other way.

Also, again which you guys ignore. AZ and GA are Republican run states in terms of voting. So what’s going on there?

- j.boyd919

Moviecaveman is a reputable, solid and unbiased source?

Moviecaveman is a reputable, solid and unbiased source?
- MattStrat

Obviously. Dude’s on Reddit. All Redditors are great sources.

My guess is he compiled a list from other news articles.

I still don’t think anything will happen but I definitely don’t think this election is as legit as people on the left make it seem.

Like I said they cried that Russia interfered for 4 straight years and that was debunked and now all of a sudden we have to trust the integrity of the election because they won? Lol suck a Richard lol (not you, the left).

Obviously. Dude’s on Reddit. All Redditors are great sources.

My guess is he compiled a list from other news articles.

I still don’t think anything will happen but I definitely don’t think this election is as legit as people on the left make it seem.

Like I said they cried that Russia interfered for 4 straight years and that was debunked and now all of a sudden we have to trust the integrity of the election because they won? Lol suck a Richard lol
- j.boyd919

hahaha

Man that Mueller report was like close to 10% redacted/blacked out and look at the sections that were...and who did the redacting? Trumps bud Barr...Mueller himself wouldn't commit/say for sure there was no obstruction.

https://www.vox.com/2019/...ort-redactions-data-chart

There's major corruption on both sides.

hahaha

Man that Mueller report was like close to 10% redacted/blacked out and look at the sections that were...and who did the redacting? Trumps bud Barr...Mueller himself wouldn't commit/say for sure there was no obstruction.

https://www.vox.com/2019/...ort-redactions-data-chart

There's major corruption on both sides.
- MattStrat

Oh 100% corruption on both sides and (frank) Vox lol I like to get my news from the Hill. They are kind of central considering one host is left and one host is right. So you at least get to hear both sides.

Oh 100% corruption on both sides and (frank) Vox lol I like to get my news from the Hill. They are kind of central considering one host is left and one host is right. So you at least get to hear both sides.
- j.boyd919

Yeah they have left bias no doubt but there are a lot of facts in that article and in plain sight to see how...just with some left commentary.

You’re ignoring the stats that showed Dems did mail-in at 70% click to Republicans in most states.

Wrong about MI, so get your facts straight and ignore everything I said about voter suppression which is well documented and also the large number of mail-in ballots withheld in NC that should have gone to the polls. NC could have gone completely the other way.

Also, again which you guys ignore. AZ and GA are Republican run states in terms of voting. So what’s going on there?
- Rinosaur

Nevada's former AG Adam Laxalt confirmed that one machine in Nevada passed 200,000 ballots without human verification of signatures. Thats 1 machine.
Several postal employess are whistleblowing the antics of the post office of back dating ballots. If Biden wins fair and square I personally guarantee I'd accept it and move on. I just have much doubt that this election was ran fairly.

Nevada's former AG Adam Laxalt confirmed that one machine in Nevada passed 200,000 ballots without human verification of signatures. Thats 1 machine.
Several postal employess are whistleblowing the antics of the post office of back dating ballots. If Biden wins fair and square I personally guarantee I'd accept it and move on. I just have much doubt that this election was ran fairly.
- nateca44

Every single election has errors, irregularities and fraud. From mayoral races to gubernatorial races. The ONLY real difference in this election is some states being ill-prepared to handle the number of mail-in which is unfortunate when you see states like Ohio and FL do right. They allowed them to start examining, validating and preparing the mail-in ballots days before the election and counted those first before the same-day voting. PA, GA, AZ and NV were not allowed.

Every single election has errors, irregularities and fraud. From mayoral races to gubernatorial races. The ONLY real difference in this election is some states being ill-prepared to handle the number of mail-in which is unfortunate when you see states like Ohio and FL do right. They allowed them to start examining, validating and preparing the mail-in ballots days before the election and counted those first before the same-day voting. PA, GA, AZ and NV were not allowed.
- Rinosaur

So youd be for recounting and dismissing the ballots that came in after election day, and the ones that weren't signature verified by humans?

So youd be for recounting and dismissing the ballots that came in after election day, and the ones that weren't signature verified by humans?
- nateca44

It all depends on the laws of the state. If it’s in a state that allowed it as long as the post mark was by the election, then I am not for dismissing. That’s also not to say I’m against changing those laws moving forward to create less room for these kind controversies. If they arrived late and are supposed to be voided then void them.

As someone who’s voted for both Republicans and Democrats in all different levels of elections I’m for the most fair process possible.

It all depends on the laws of the state. If it’s in a state that allowed it as long as the post mark was by the election, then I am not for dismissing. That’s also not to say I’m against changing those laws moving forward to create less room for these kind controversies. If they arrived late and are supposed to be voided the void them.

As someone who’s voted for both Republicans and Democrats in all different levels of elections I’m for the most fair process possible.
- Rinosaur

Me too.

Me too.
- nateca44

And to be real, it will never be perfect. There will always be errors and irregularities. But voting laws IMO, while I still believe should be decided by the state, need to be more uniformed.

And to be real, it will never be perfect. There will always be errors and irregularities. But laws IMO, while I still believe should be decided by the state, need to be more uniformed.
- Rinosaur

I agree on some levels. Maybe laws in state elections, but when it comes to Federal, it needs to be addressed by the Supreme Court. Otherwise, if all states decided to create their own laws, it could be very beneficial to which party is in charge.

I agree on some levels. Maybe laws in state elections, but when it comes to Federal, it needs to be addressed by the Supreme Court. Otherwise, if all states decided to create their own laws, it could be very beneficial to which party is in charge.
- nateca44

I don’t think it needs to go to the Supreme Court. I feel the house and senate should be able to hammer out common sense voting laws.

I don’t think it needs to go to the Supreme Court. I feel the house and senate should be able to hammer out common sense voting laws.
- Rinosaur

I dont feel the house nor senate would follow the constitution. Hell, if we leave it up to them they could very well get rid of the electoral college and that would be a complete nightmare.

https://techcrunch.com/20...ew-highs-afterbiden-win/-

Yeah well, here is some good news.

I dont feel the house nor senate would follow the constitution. Hell, if we leave it up to them they could very well get rid of the electoral college and that would be a complete nightmare.
- nateca44

The Senate has a republican majority, so the electoral college is going nowhere. I disagree with you on the electoral college. The only people who like it are far right republicans, which is you lol. You are for federal elections being mandated by federal law, but you want to keep a system that is based on the state?

The Senate has a republican majority, so the electoral college is going nowhere. I disagree with you on the electoral college. The only people who like it are far right republicans, which is you lol. You are for federal elections being mandated by federal law, but you want to keep a system that is based on the state?
- Rinosaur

Electoral college debate just depends on what side you're on. People come up with all kinds of arguments for and against, but it really comes down to electoral college benefits Republicans and abolishing it benefits Democrats.

A lot of issues are like that really where both sides find a moral high ground, but really it's just about how the issue can further their side's power.

- j.boyd919

https://thehill.com/opini...ction-challenges-in-court

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/525118-can-president-trump-win-his-election-challenges-in-court
- Thunderbolt

Yep. It’s definitely an uphill battle and one he is likely to lose.