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bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Nov 9 @ 11:56 AM ET
Trouba is a good D in the league. I criticized him since he was a jet over his undisciplined penalties, and concerning positional play and passing choices. He is a freak, athletically speaking. Skates effortlessly and hits hard. 8M was too much, but I'd take Trouba at 8M over Meyers at 6M. The emergence of Fox/DeAngelo as suitable top pairing RD's certainly didn't do Trouba any favors. Nor did buying our Shatts, giving up Pionk and a 1st, to help accommodate this trade.

Trouba could still be an 8M D in this league, he just needs to shore up some minor deficiencies and play a simpler game. I certainly do not have him as a top 10 bad contract in my books. I did not read the article but Skinner/Bobrovski/Seabrook/Meyers/Suter/Parise/Lucic/Neal/Ericsson/Ladd are 10 contracts far worse than this one.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Nov 9 @ 11:57 AM ET
If you come into the comments from the main page you'll always get the replies working. If you come to the comments through the blog, they most likely won't.

For me at least.

- GreatGigInTheSky


I think if I remember right, when the quotes are not working, there is quotes around a 1 around the page in the URL. You can delete those quotes and it'll work.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Nov 9 @ 3:53 PM ET
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If you could go back in time and change ONE thing in #Rangers history, what would it be and why?



Probably go back to 1979 draft and get the Rangers to draft Mark Messier 34th overall instead of Ed Hospodar
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Nov 9 @ 3:55 PM ET
Rangers Nation
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If you could go back in time and change ONE thing in #Rangers history, what would it be and why?



Probably go back to 1979 draft and get the Rangers to draft Mark Messier 34th overall instead of Ed Hospodar

- jimbro83



I would go back in time and warn Cherepanov about his heart. Would save his life!
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Nov 9 @ 4:02 PM ET
I would go back in time and warn Cherepanov about his heart. Would save his life!
- TommyGTrain


We don't know for sure, but I do wonder had he been with the team at that time, if it would have made a difference.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
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Joined: 01.31.2019

Nov 9 @ 4:03 PM ET
Rangers Nation
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If you could go back in time and change ONE thing in #Rangers history, what would it be and why?



Probably go back to 1979 draft and get the Rangers to draft Mark Messier 34th overall instead of Ed Hospodar

- jimbro83


That's a good one, how about jumping in front of the Isles on almost every single one of their dynasty draft picks? In modern times? Literally pick anyone else in 03 and just take Tarasenko
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Nov 9 @ 4:18 PM ET
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If you could go back in time and change ONE thing in #Rangers history, what would it be and why?



Probably go back to 1979 draft and get the Rangers to draft Mark Messier 34th overall instead of Ed Hospodar

- jimbro83


I would have extended Zubov for 8 years
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

Nov 9 @ 5:26 PM ET
Rangers Nation
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If you could go back in time and change ONE thing in #Rangers history, what would it be and why?



Probably go back to 1979 draft and get the Rangers to draft Mark Messier 34th overall instead of Ed Hospodar

- jimbro83

Never hire Sather as GM. Do I really need to explain why?
Bromancer
Joined: 03.17.2011

Nov 9 @ 6:16 PM ET
I’ve noticed that for some reason it’ll work if you’ve already commented on the thread.

There is some other variable, too, but I’m not sure what it is.

- Hesh_

Thank you.
Bromancer
Joined: 03.17.2011

Nov 9 @ 6:17 PM ET
Click the comments at the very top of the article, then you’ll be able to quote. Sometimes if you scroll to the comments at the bottom of the article it won’t let u quote.
- nyrangers9479

Thank you.
Bromancer
Joined: 03.17.2011

Nov 9 @ 6:18 PM ET
If you come into the comments from the main page you'll always get the replies working. If you come to the comments through the blog, they most likely won't.

For me at least.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Thank you.
Bromancer
Joined: 03.17.2011

Nov 9 @ 6:18 PM ET
I think if I remember right, when the quotes are not working, there is quotes around a 1 around the page in the URL. You can delete those quotes and it'll work.
- 2sticks1puck

Thank you.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Nov 9 @ 7:47 PM ET
Trouba is a good D in the league. I criticized him since he was a jet over his undisciplined penalties, and concerning positional play and passing choices. He is a freak, athletically speaking. Skates effortlessly and hits hard. 8M was too much, but I'd take Trouba at 8M over Meyers at 6M. The emergence of Fox/DeAngelo as suitable top pairing RD's certainly didn't do Trouba any favors. Nor did buying our Shatts, giving up Pionk and a 1st, to help accommodate this trade.

Trouba could still be an 8M D in this league, he just needs to shore up some minor deficiencies and play a simpler game. I certainly do not have him as a top 10 bad contract in my books. I did not read the article but Skinner/Bobrovski/Seabrook/Meyers/Suter/Parise/Lucic/Neal/Ericsson/Ladd are 10 contracts far worse than this one.

- bikeguy99

Good point.

And all of those contracts are worse. Kings have some bad deals too, but so does every team.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Nov 9 @ 9:01 PM ET
Rangers Nation
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If you could go back in time and change ONE thing in #Rangers history, what would it be and why?



Probably go back to 1979 draft and get the Rangers to draft Mark Messier 34th overall instead of Ed Hospodar

- jimbro83


We could have drafted Kevin Lowe, Dale Hunter or Guy Carbonneau before we even got to Messier.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Nov 9 @ 9:11 PM ET
1980, we could have taken Brent Sutter
1981, Al MacInnis
1982, Dave Andreychuk went literally the pick after us.
1887, Joe Sakic
1990, Tkachuk, Brodeur
1991... Seal the deal on the Lindros trade.
1993, Jonsson, Deadmarsh, Koivu, Bertuzzi
2003, ANYONE!
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Nov 9 @ 10:36 PM ET
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If you could go back in time and change ONE thing in #Rangers history, what would it be and why?



Probably go back to 1979 draft and get the Rangers to draft Mark Messier 34th overall instead of Ed Hospodar

- jimbro83

If I could change one thing I'd make Brucey a Rangers fan
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Nov 9 @ 10:53 PM ET
If I could change one thing I'd make Brucey a Rangers fan
- SkjeiStadium



He IS a Rangers fan, don't waste your wish!
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Nov 10 @ 6:09 AM ET
Leetch played his entire career in Rangers blue.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Nov 10 @ 6:20 AM ET
Leetch played his entire career in Rangers blue.
- Fenrir


Some of you guys need to dream bigger than this

We are talking about going back in time to change one moment in Rangers history.

You would use that power so Brian Leetch would have finished that awful 2003-2004 season as a Ranger?

Cmon think big
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:00 AM ET
Some of you guys need to dream bigger than this

We are talking about going back in time to change one moment in Rangers history.

You would use that power so Brian Leetch would have finished that awful 2003-2004 season as a Ranger?

Cmon think big

- jimbro83


Imagine getting Lowe and Messier in 79, Sutter in 80 and Andreychuk in 82... wowza
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Nov 10 @ 7:06 AM ET
Some of you guys need to dream bigger than this

We are talking about going back in time to change one moment in Rangers history.

You would use that power so Brian Leetch would have finished that awful 2003-2004 season as a Ranger?

Cmon think big

- jimbro83

Too early. Some of those picks, like taking Mess would have been huge.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Nov 10 @ 7:26 AM ET
Imagine getting Lowe and Messier in 79, Sutter in 80 and Andreychuk in 82... wowza
- aecliptic


even just taking Brian Propp instead of Doug Sulliman in 1979

that's actually in the book by Ratso Sloman A Season in Hell with the New York Rangers

a couple of the players complained that it was ridiculous for the Rangers to take Sulliman over Propp just because he was Don Maloney's best friend.

That's literally how they made that draft decision.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Nov 10 @ 7:51 AM ET
Rangers Nation
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If you could go back in time and change ONE thing in #Rangers history, what would it be and why?



Probably go back to 1979 draft and get the Rangers to draft Mark Messier 34th overall instead of Ed Hospodar

- jimbro83


But, without being a part of 4 championships in Edmonton, what kind of player would Messier grow into? Probably no Cup in 94.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Nov 10 @ 7:57 AM ET
even just taking Brian Propp instead of Doug Sulliman in 1979

that's actually in the book by Ratso Sloman A Season in Hell with the New York Rangers

a couple of the players complained that it was ridiculous for the Rangers to take Sulliman over Propp just because he was Don Maloney's best friend.

That's literally how they made that draft decision.

- jimbro83


To me giving our history of drafting from the franchises inception, it's still hard to believe we actually put together enough coherent draft picks in the 80s to form a cup contender.

Just think, the scout that wanted to take Hank was basically screaming from the top of lungs to take him in like the 4th round, and the team only took him because I'm sure they were out of ideas. At least it seems like this century most years we sorta righted the ship, but god this franchise has sucked at drafting.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Nov 10 @ 8:01 AM ET
But, without being a part of 4 championships in Edmonton, what kind of player would Messier grow into? Probably no Cup in 94.
- Tonybere


I bet he stops those mid-late 80s Flyers teams though. Edmonton still would have been really good, but I could have seen us sneaking in a cup before the Mario years. We wouldn't have played center roulette for about 5 years too.

Just think, we finished 1st in division one year with Kelly Kisio as our top center. I mean, you gotta think Mess makes that team light years better.
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