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NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 10 @ 8:37 PM ET
"You'll play for 10 to 12 days," Commissioner Bettman said in a virtual panel discussion during the 2020 Paley International Council Summit. "You'll play a bunch of games without traveling. You'll go back, go home for a week, be with your family. We'll have our testing protocols and all the other things you need.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...2?tcid=tw_news_content_id

I was talking about something like this to friend earlier this week.

That or something like the Toews baseball type schedule where you play 3 games in 4 nights vs one team and that travel somewhere else.

Soccer has been going on in Europe and players have been testing positive for covid after a game and are told to go home. Not many if any of the other players are getting it.

- manvanfan


I was saying it over the summer to go to a 4 bubble city concept. Rotate in and between with time back with the family. They could have started camps by now and season December 1; as first intended.

Greedy stupid Americans (Bettmen/owners) believed Trumps BS that Covid was going away. Any reasonable person would have read the science, and new we were headed for shut downs again; from brief summer re-openings. Like what are they waiting on for the vaccine?!? By the time that's in play at the earliest its summer again. Get the hybrid bubbles started in Canada. Frack the stupid as Trump states, to regionalize travel with some bums in the stands BS.

Its too late, the damage is done, its not turning around there. Get on hockey now we are shut in and the weather is cold you'll get your hockey audience in spades.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 10 @ 8:38 PM ET
Here you go Gemma since you celebrate American Thanksgiving... and The Kraken is your new favorite team.



winky face

- boonerbuck

Like it
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
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Nov 10 @ 8:40 PM ET
Sadly, I forget what I did to get this one.
- manvanfan

You need a Podkolzin avy
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 10 @ 8:47 PM ET
We can only hope that LE becomes allergic to his gear, or decides to retire due COVID risks being too great.
- Retinalz



I'll take that or a some leverage to force him out.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 10 @ 8:50 PM ET
35 years ago today Pelle Lindbergh died, may he Rest In Peace forever. Don’t drink and drive!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
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Nov 10 @ 8:59 PM ET
You need a Podkolzin avy
- Pacificgem

He's not my fav prospect. Lind, Maybe Woo, Ethan Keppen maybe
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM ET
I’ve no links on the matter. I believe we lost out on TT with delays for OEL though.
- Nighthawk

I've looked at trades that would make sense for the Canucks and the other team. There really isn't a lot of room for movement for most teams.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
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Nov 10 @ 10:04 PM ET
He's not my fav prospect. Lind, Maybe Woo, Ethan Keppen maybe
- manvanfan



Lind could be a Kraken... no joke
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
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Nov 10 @ 10:09 PM ET
Lind could be a Kraken... no joke
- NuckUp

I highly doubt it unless he's pretty poor this season. They are going to need those cheap contracts remember.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
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Nov 10 @ 10:11 PM ET
I’ve no links on the matter. I believe we lost out on TT with delays for OEL though.
- Nighthawk


That was Schmidt on delay not OEL. Though what was reported the UFA priority was Marky money first. When on OEL it was said to involve JV which could have freed money for TT. But again, priority was Marky first then Tanev. So there was no $$ for TT under flat cap and Ferland not on LTIR.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
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Nov 10 @ 10:14 PM ET
I highly doubt it unless he's pretty poor this season. They are going to need those cheap contracts remember.
- manvanfan


Wouldn't it be the other way around. Better he shows more likely taken. No room for Lind on the protected list unless they expose JV. In fact they may go 4 and 4 to protect OJ and Myers. So leaves less room for forwards. Heck if they pull that D trade, many want, then its almost a given 4F and 4D protect list.
golfingsince
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Nov 10 @ 10:23 PM ET
I would focus on expressing your thoughts more clearly rather than trying to jam them all into one paragraph.

Maybe not try to get them all out at the same time.
manvanfan
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Nov 10 @ 10:24 PM ET
Wouldn't it be the other way around. Better he shows more likely taken. No room for Lind on the protected list unless they expose JV. In fact they may go 4 and 4 to protect OJ and Myers. So leaves less room for forwards. Heck if they pull that D trade many want then its almost a given 4F and 4D protect list.
- NuckUp

Not a (frank)en chance he goes 4F 4D.

Petey
Miller
Boeser
Horvat
Gaudette
Virtanen
Lind

That's 7, not very hard. Might have to give up 8 points a year Pk specialist Motte.
golfingsince
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Nov 10 @ 10:30 PM ET
Not a (frank)en chance he goes 4F 4D.

Petey
Miller
Boeser
Horvat
Gaudette
Virtanen
Lind

That's 7, not very hard. Might have to give up 8 points a year Pk specialist Motte.

- manvanfan

I don't think it's a given that the three bottom players on your list get protected, although we are set up nicely for the expansion draft IMO.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
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Nov 10 @ 10:32 PM ET
I don't think it's a given that the three bottom players on your list get protected, although we are set up nicely for the expansion draft IMO.
- golfingsince

That's certainly possible but really who else are you going to want to protect over them? Roussel?
Unrestricted free agents Pearson or Sutter?

Zac Mac if he has a break out year?

LE needs 11 games, Sutter needs 9. Roussel 12 games to even be exposed.
golfingsince
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Nov 10 @ 10:43 PM ET
That's certainly possible but really who else are you going to want to protect over them? Roussel?
Unrestricted free agents Pearson or Sutter?

Zac Mac if he has a break out year?

LE needs 11 games, Sutter needs 9. Roussel 12 games to even be exposed.

- manvanfan


I think there are a number of variables including trades, D stepping up etc.

Camp should be fun!

I would hope they'd expand rosters considering the pandemic, without a clear plan for minor leagues.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
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Nov 10 @ 10:48 PM ET
"The fact Jim wants to extend me fits with what I want to do. When I first came to Vancouver, we talked about building this team up and taking the proper steps to do it. Obviously, you have to be aligned with your general manager and your ownership, and we have been the whole way" - TG
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 10 @ 10:51 PM ET
That's certainly possible but really who else are you going to want to protect over them? Roussel?
Unrestricted free agents Pearson or Sutter?

Zac Mac if he has a break out year?

LE needs 11 games, Sutter needs 9. Roussel 12 games to even be exposed.

- manvanfan


Good point, but,...
This depends on if they come up with a formula or not,for the amount of games that each team played this past season.
The Canucks played about 83% of the schedule, so doing math, if they prorate, would mean only Roussel doesn't reach the target( 1 game)
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
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Nov 10 @ 10:55 PM ET
I think there are a number of variables including trades, D stepping up etc.

Camp should be fun!

I would hope they'd expand rosters considering the pandemic, without a clear plan for minor leagues.

- golfingsince

They absolutely have a year to figure it out. Unless quite a few decide to take a real big leap forward, I don't think a 30 point forward is going to be missed if they are picked.

Green during his interview saying he's been chatting with all the young D.

"I’m in the middle of actually reaching out to all our young defencemen and checking in with them and making sure they have an understanding with where they’re at, what’s at stake and the work they have to do in the off-season. It’s easy for people to say: ‘Here’s who’s going to be on the team. Here are the pairings.’ At the end of the day, you’ve got to come in and earn it. There’s going to be healthy competition between five or six guys for those bottom two spots. That’s exciting for a coach. Maybe someone surprises us."
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 10:58 PM ET
Good point, but,...
This depends on if they come up with a formula or not,for the amount of games that each team played this past season.
The Canucks played about 83% of the schedule, so doing math, if they prorate, would mean only Roussel doesn't reach the target( 1 game)

- Reubenkincade

All they need really though is to have a few players for Seattle to pick from. I'm not sure on the rules but I believe just have to have a forward, defence, goaltender meet the requirements. Canucks will probably have multiple players for both that won't be missed too much if picked.

If maybe they only play a half season 40 games or something then it might be more of a problem for a lot of teams, as a lot of players need 40 games to meet the requirements.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 10 @ 11:07 PM ET
All they need really though is to have a few players for Seattle to pick from. I'm not sure on the rules but I believe just have to have a forward, defence, goaltender meet the requirements. Canucks will probably have multiple players for both that won't be missed too much if picked.

If maybe they only play a half season 40 games or something then it might be more of a problem for a lot of teams, as a lot of players need 40 games to meet the requirements.

- manvanfan


I believe they are the same rules as when Vegas picked, just Vegas is exempt from havinga player selected this time.

https://www.nhl.com/golde...ft-full-rules/c-289403076
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 10 @ 11:12 PM ET
He's not my fav prospect. Lind, Maybe Woo, Ethan Keppen maybe
- manvanfan

Rathbone for me
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 11:42 PM ET
I believe they are the same rules as when Vegas picked, just Vegas is exempt from havinga player selected this time.

https://www.nhl.com/golde...ft-full-rules/c-289403076

- Reubenkincade

i) One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

ii) Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

So that's the kicker on guys like Sutter, Pearson, Edler.

One D and two forwards. Which still means Canucks just need LE, Roussel, Motte to play a few games and they can pick on of those 3.

Make all the kids play like 39 games except for 1 and expose Myers.

Wouldn't it be nice if they picked Myers or Roussel or maybe Beagle.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 10 @ 11:50 PM ET
i) One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

ii) Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

So that's the kicker on guys like Sutter, Pearson, Edler.

One D and two forwards. Which still means Canucks just need LE, Roussel, Motte to play a few games and they can pick on of those 3.

Make all the kids play like 39 games except for 1 and expose Myers.

Wouldn't it be nice if they picked Myers or Roussel or maybe Beagle.

- manvanfan


They can still select a player that doesn't meet that threshold, provided they have more than 2 years of ahl/nhl experience. Players such as Hughes are exempt.
IIRC it was to ensure that the expansion team had a chance of getting players who at least had some nhl experience.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 10 @ 11:50 PM ET
Not a (frank)en chance he goes 4F 4D.

Petey
Miller
Boeser
Horvat
Gaudette
Virtanen
Lind

That's 7, not very hard. Might have to give up 8 points a year Pk specialist Motte.

- manvanfan


I don't think you understood the D part of the protective equation. Its not about the forward list either on what you and Golfer spoke about. OJ shows well they will want to protect him. Plus if they add another good D, like Cernak, then that will do it too. That would rule over protecting Gaudette, JV and Lind.
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