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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 13 @ 12:37 AM ET
The 1918-19 NHL season was from Dec. 21, 1918 to Mar. 6, 1919. Only 3 teams played in the season and they played a total of 18 games. Hamby Shore of the Ottawa Senators was the first player to die of the Spanish flu in Oct. 1918.

See it can be done.

- A_SteamingLombardi

Power through it.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 13 @ 12:54 AM ET
They should wait. Your selfishness is appalling.
- Marwood


Ya, pretty messed up comment.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 13 @ 12:55 AM ET
Probably not but 2.9m isn’t getting Cirelli Sergachev & Cernak. TB will be biting bullets somewhere. Try your hand on how it could go

My weak scenario was:

Killorn Cernak 2021 3rd gets Benn for cap space. NJD was a 3rd team in the 3-way.

- Nighthawk

The season hasn't even begun and we're already discussing 3 way trades.....
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 13 @ 1:29 AM ET
Ya, pretty messed up comment.
- Reubenkincade


I am going to give you the respect, others don't deserve, and ask what's messed up about getting a start date? Do you think conditions will change for the better?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:31 AM ET
Good list

McDavid
Mackinnon
Draisaitl
O'Reilly
Pettersson
Scheifele
Kopitar

For me anyways.

- Pres.cup

I the west only?

Mackinnon
Mcdavid
Draisitl
Shiefele
Orielly

Those are the guys i put above petey, i think he has the upside to be better defensively and enter the top three with Mc and Mac though.

I think Couture is a toss up, very underrated. Kopitar maybe 3-4 years ago, much respect but has lost a step imo.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:42 AM ET
A 3rd, Benn and Tryamkin would get you Loui Eriksson or a similar “asset”
- CanuckDon


NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 13 @ 1:47 AM ET
A 3rd, Benn and Tryamkin would get you Loui Eriksson or a similar “asset”
- CanuckDon



That trade proposal doesn't look plausible based on what Bolts would want. But a 3rd did get you Schmidt and you were stunned they traded him to Canucks too.

Though offer sheet wise Cernak is at least a second. So the trade proposal has to be more pick wise and/or involve prospects/ELC's. Bolts don't want contracts or players they can't sign.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 2:00 AM ET
The season hasn't even begun and we're already discussing 3 way trades.....
- golfingsince

Aah dog days of autumn & bored of waiting & this 2nd covid wave has only just begun.

Bleak times we live in. The world needs respite til this pandemic can be irradicated.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 13 @ 2:03 AM ET
I am going to give you the respect, others don't deserve, and ask what's messed up about getting a start date? Do you think conditions will change for the better?
- NuckUp


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 2:04 AM ET
That trade proposal doesn't look plausible based on what Bolts would want. But a 3rd did get you Schmidt and you were stunned they traded him to Canucks too.

Though offer sheet wise Cernak is at least a second. So the trade proposal has to be more pick wise and/or involve prospects/ELC's. Bolts don't want contracts or players they can't sign.

- NuckUp

Teams with cap can pilfer teams in a pickle. My earlier assertion of OS’s I retract. Bargain basement or even give-aways I see coming. Only thing saving teams like TB is a cancelled season. How that would work out idk. That is a whole other story for another day.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 13 @ 2:05 AM ET
I the west only?

Mackinnon
Mcdavid
Draisitl
Shiefele
Orielly

Those are the guys i put above petey, i think he has the upside to be better defensively and enter the top three with Mc and Mac though.

I think Couture is a toss up, very underrated. Kopitar maybe 3-4 years ago, much respect but has lost a step imo.

- neem55


I had a hard time with Shiefele, think Pete is more creative and dynamic, but very very close.

Hard pass on Kopitar.
Couture I put on a level with Bo, very good, not dynamic.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 13 @ 2:14 AM ET
Probably not but 2.9m isn’t getting Cirelli Sergachev & Cernak. TB will be biting bullets somewhere. Try your hand on how it could go

My weak scenario was:

Killorn Cernak 2021 3rd gets Benn for cap space. NJD was a 3rd team in the 3-way.

- Nighthawk


I think they'll trade a 1st to move Johnson, trade 2 of Palat, Gourde, Kilhorn or Cirelli for a cheaper/worse replacement and keep the defensemen. They have the forward depth and continously find and develop guys who succeed offensively.

1st and Johnson to LAK for a 7th.
Palat to NSH for Jarnkrok
Cirelli to PHI for Myers

Would give them close to 12M to sign 3 RFA dmen.

Kilhorn Point Kucherov
Coleman Gourde Stamkos
Goodrow Jarnkrok Raddysh
Maroon Paquette Stephens

Hedman Cernak
Mcdonagh Myers
Sergachev Schenn




NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 13 @ 2:18 AM ET
Teams with cap can pilfer teams in a pickle. My earlier assertion of OS’s I retract. Bargain basement or even give-aways I see coming. Only thing saving teams like TB is a cancelled season. How that would work out idk. That is a whole other story for another day.
- Nighthawk


Being forced to trade Cernak is a pickle in itself. But there will be competition to get him. So like JTM trade there will be a cost to it.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 2:25 AM ET
I think they'll trade a 1st to move Johnson, trade 2 of Palat, Gourde, Kilhorn or Cirelli for a cheaper/worse replacement and keep the defensemen. They have the forward depth and continously find and develop guys who succeed offensively.

1st and Johnson to LAK for a 7th.
Palat to NSH for Jarnkrok
Cirelli to PHI for Myers

Would give them close to 12M to sign 3 RFA dmen.

Kilhorn Point Kucherov
Coleman Gourde Stamkos
Goodrow Jarnkrok Raddysh
Maroon Paquette Stephens

Hedman Cernak
Mcdonagh Myers
Sergachev Schenn

- belcherbd


30yr old Johnson 4/5m in this cap world will cost a lot to move. The others nobody is stepping up for. TB will be extorted heavily.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 2:27 AM ET
Being forced to trade Cernak is a pickle in itself. But there will be competition to get him. So like JTM trade there will be a cost to it.
- NuckUp

Schmidt cost only a 3rd. This isn’t the pre-covid days of getting Miller. It’s very lopsided buyers market.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 2:29 AM ET
This lull is the only advantage TB has. Once or if a season plan is decided upon the real crap hits the fan.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 13 @ 2:47 AM ET
This lull is the only advantage TB has. Once or if a season plan is decided upon the real crap hits the fan.
- Nighthawk


Yes there is no leverage to force things or get movement to clear cap. I brought up new prices and not saying costs will be the same as before. Each "sh!tuation" will have its own factors to it. Bolts can get at least a 2+ for Cernak; or, just let him sit until offer sheeted and take the 2nd.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 2:58 AM ET
Yes there is no leverage to force things or get movement to clear cap. I brought up new prices and not saying costs will be the same as before. Each "sh!tuation" will have its own factors to it. Bolts can get at least a 2+ for Cernak; or, just let him sit until offer sheeted and take the 2nd.
- NuckUp


Holding Cernak hostage is very bad business.

The ‘shltuation’ is dire. 2.9m for 5 players to sign. Wings Sens Preds Kings & NJ are sitting like vultures. They all know it & can out wait TB.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 13 @ 8:39 AM ET
I am going to give you the respect, others don't deserve, and ask what's messed up about getting a start date? Do you think conditions will change for the better?
- NuckUp

The negative nillies would just to be correct for a change...about as correct as all the no playoff predictions lol

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 9:25 AM ET
The Flag of Sweden J20 Nationell and other Flag of Sweden junior leagues have paused play until Jan 2021 at least due to Covid 19.

So Viktor Persson's game with Brynas' U20 squad today is cancelled. It would appear Persson will soon head to Flag of Canada to play for the Kamloops Blazers in Jan 2021.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 9:25 AM ET
https://www.collegehockey...rced-to-Cancel-Hockey.php

#Canucks prospect Jack Malone's 20/21 hockey season at Cornell is cancelled due to Covid 19.

Malone was 2-6-8 +11 in 27 games in his first year at Cornell last season and was expected to have more playing time in his second season.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 9:29 AM ET
CanucksAbbyFan2
@Fan2Abby
#Canucks #29 Jackson Kunz's secondary Red apple on his Green Bay team's 4-3 GWG.

Kunz is now 2-1-3 +1 in 2 USHL games this season

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If he can improve on his skating. Top ceiling is probably Anders Lee.

Lee was 24 when he broke into the league full time. Has scored 40-60 pts in all of his season on avg.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 9:31 AM ET
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
More talk on Governors call about the potential for a Canadian division and 3 U.S. divisions. Also the idea of teams playing 2-3 games in a row vs same team to limit travel and exposure. Sorta like baseball-style schedule. But again, nothing written in stone. Just ideas right now

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This is what i've been saying.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 13 @ 9:32 AM ET
I am going to give you the respect, others don't deserve, and ask what's messed up about getting a start date? Do you think conditions will change for the better?
- NuckUp


You said the situation is not going to get better,which it isn't, it will get worse, so they should play anyways?
The league/owners can't put bums in the seats, so zero revenue comes in from that aspect of the operation, but expenses are occurred for air travel,, continual covid testing, ice maintenance at not just the game facilities, but practise facilities, hotel costs, food, hockey equipment, on-ice and off-ice officials etc.
The league has been talking with government about cross-border travel and quarantine, other rules that may be in place in different provinces/states.
The players need to be involved in the process and have been through the PA.
All of this and many other situations take time and like any business the dollars have to be considered.
At this time therapeutics and vaccines have nothing to do with a decision to announce a start for the 2021 season, keeping peoplesafe and the integrity of the business are at the forefront of any decisions.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 9:37 AM ET
https://twitter.com/EPRin...tatus/1326997685149323264

William Eklund.

Needs two points in the next 23 games to tie Lucas Raymond's point totals from last season.

This years draft >>> Last years draft.
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