If I'm not mistaken, Bill has posted that St. Ivany does not project as an NHL player but I could be wrong.

Also, I hope they don't keep trading 2nd and 3rd round picks to bring in vet RH depth.
- MJL

Who is they? The current GM did it one time no; of which turned out to be a good move.

some other teams got A+ retro remix jerseys, Flyers got another meh imho

If I'm not mistaken, Bill has posted that St. Ivany does not project as an NHL player but I could be wrong.

Also, I hope they don't keep trading 2nd and 3rd round picks to bring in vet RH depth.
- MJL

we've got the type of scouting/development system that gets results past the first round, that's an asset we can leverage well and I hope Fletcher doesn't handcuff us there

I've been happy with Braun though, especially on his new contract

white cuffs look terrible.

They should have just brought back the orange away jerseys from the 90s. This isn't hard, people.

If I'm not mistaken, Bill has posted that St. Ivany does not project as an NHL player but I could be wrong.
- MJL

You never know. Ben Lovejoys happen.

Also, I hope they don't keep trading 2nd and 3rd round picks to bring in vet RH depth.
- MJL

Doesn't necessarily have to be a trade. There are quality RHD available on the open market today. Will be the same in coming summers.

You never know. Ben Lovejoys happen.



Doesn't necessarily have to be a trade. There are quality RHD available on the open market today. Will be the same in coming summers.
- Tomahawk

I was the one who previously inquired Bill on St ivany and have watched him in person plenty. There is no diamond in the rough there.

Those jerseys are awful
- ClaudeFather

I'm not digging them either. Then again I wasn't a fan of the stadium series jerseys from the game at the Linc but those grew on me.

Speaking of right handed shooters, why did Giroux end up on the off wing? Was it because we were short of left wings at that time or does he have that preference? (Tomahawk mentioned he started at 4RW the very first time he was called up).

We now have more potential LWs (JVR, Bee, Lindblom, Laughton) than RWs (Voracek, TK). When we monkey around with the lines, I rarely see anyone put Giroux on the right side. It seems to me that would open up many interesting possibilities

I'm not digging them either. Then again I wasn't a fan of the stadium series jerseys from the game at the Linc but those grew on me.
- Pelle31Forever

Yea it all comes down to how it looks in the game but first glance not a fan at all.

we've got the type of scouting/development system that gets results past the first round, that's an asset we can leverage well and I hope Fletcher doesn't handcuff us there

I've been happy with Braun though, especially on his new contract
- Coburns_Nose

Adding Braun did not elevate the team significantly in my opinion. I questioned the move when it happened and I still question it in hindsight.

You never know. Ben Lovejoys happen.



Doesn't necessarily have to be a trade. There are quality RHD available on the open market today. Will be the same in coming summers.
- Tomahawk

They do but not often. The cost of a quality RHD is even more prohibitive in free agency.

Speaking of right handed shooters, why did Giroux end up on the off wing? Was it because we were short of left wings at that time or does he have that preference? (Tomahawk mentioned he started at 4RW the very first time he was called up).

We now have more potential LWs (JVR, Bee, Lindblom, Laughton) than RWs (Voracek, TK). When we monkey around with the lines, I rarely see anyone put Giroux on the right side. It seems to me that would open up many interesting possibilities
- PT21

It's not hard to figure out. Where does he play on the PP?

i like the jersey

Bobo jersey.

The 2012 winter classic gear is as good as it’s ever gonna get for the Flyers imo. It sucks that the league moved to Adidas and can’t use that look anymore.

Speaking of right handed shooters, why did Giroux end up on the off wing? Was it because we were short of left wings at that time or does he have that preference? (Tomahawk mentioned he started at 4RW the very first time he was called up).

We now have more potential LWs (JVR, Bee, Lindblom, Laughton) than RWs (Voracek, TK). When we monkey around with the lines, I rarely see anyone put Giroux on the right side. It seems to me that would open up many interesting possibilities
- PT21

Lots of players like to play on the off wing because it gives them a better shooting angle.

Adding Braun did not elevate the team significantly in my opinion. I questioned the move when it happened and I still question it in hindsight.
- MJL

Do you believe in intangibles?

Did you not see how the young dman were pretty much left to fend for themselves the last few years? Ask the players how much braun helped them, bet they thought it was worth those picks you seem to overvalue.

Maybe Bill has some insight as to how the young guys felt about Braun; and how he helped them this year.

Over a full season, Giroux’s scoring rates on the left side of the formation would have ranked 20th in goals/60 and ninth in points/60 among players with at least 50 minutes in the situation. On the right side? 262nd and 202nd. We’re talking the difference between one of the best power-play weapons in the NHL and one of the worst.

G/60 (PP) at left side 3.10
G/60 (PP) at right side .57
P/60 (PP) left side 7.43
P/60 (PP) right side 3.40


https://theathletic.com/2...ecline-flyers-statistics/

Let’s start with his usage at even strength. Giroux spent 20 of the 69 regular-season games at center, and 16 games at wing but not on a line with Couturier, leaving a little under half of the season when he played in his “ideal” spot in the lineup. Unsurprisingly, that was when he looked closest to his peak self.

G/60 at center (20 games) .67
G/60 at wing (49 games) .69
G/60 at wing with Coots (33 games) .77

xG % at center 49.89%
xG % with Coots 56.57%




When skating with Couturier on the wing, Giroux was a play-driving beast and scored at a borderline first-liner level — a bit of a decline after seasons of 2.81 and 2.39 points/60 minutes, but nothing too worrying. At center, tasked with helping the Flyers survive the absence of Nolan Patrick? He basically performed like a good third-liner. That’s 20 games worth of stat deflation, done for the good of the team.

Basically what the stats say is that Giroux should be stationed on Couturiers left wing both at evens and on the PP and be left alone.

Adjust the rest of the lineup as needed, but don't mess with that combo.

Lots of players like to play on the off wing because it gives them a better shooting angle.
- MBFlyerfan

So, its his preference then. Like Jake.

So, its his preference then. Like Jake.
- PT21

Yes, and the stats bear out that he is better on the left side.

Yes, and the stats bear out that he is better on the left side.
- MBFlyerfan

Those stats you posted - that's only pp, though, right?

Anyway, I am not advocating he move. I just wondered if he ended up there because a few years ago we had a dearth of LWs

So, its his preference then. Like Jake.
- PT21

Giroux had a down year points wise mainly because his assists totals fell way off.

He was 1 goal off his previous years pace (22 to 21 in 13 less games) but dropped from 63 assists to 32 assists.

Personally I think that had a lot to do with experimenting with him on the right side of the PP and needing him to play center with line mates that weren't finishing like they should have been.

The stats bear that out to a degree.

If I am AV, I do whatever possible to make sure Giroux is as comfortable as possible so that he can produce at the highest level possible.

I think would offset maybe having a weaker player at 3rd line center. Hopefully if Patrick is healthy the problem doesn't arise, at least to the degree it did last season.

Those stats you posted - that's only pp, though, right?

Anyway, I am not advocating he move. I just wondered if he ended up there because a few years ago we had a dearth of LWs
- PT21

read further down for some even strength numbers. Granted not as drastic a difference, but a difference nonetheless.

Giroux had a down year points wise mainly because his assists totals fell way off.

He was 1 goal off his previous years pace (22 to 21 in 13 less games) but dropped from 63 assists to 32 assists.

Personally I think that had a lot to do with experimenting with him on the right side of the PP and needing him to play center with line mates that weren't finishing like they should have been.

The stats bear that out to a degree.

If I am AV, I do whatever possible to make sure Giroux is as comfortable as possible so that he can produce at the highest level possible.

I think would offset maybe having a weaker player at 3rd line center. Hopefully if Patrick is healthy the problem doesn't arise, at least to the degree it did last season.
- MBFlyerfan

I attribute that to bad puck luck and the play of his teammates on the ice. His play didn't drop. Therian the clown had him where on the power play?

Giroux had a down year points wise mainly because his assists totals fell way off.

He was 1 goal off his previous years pace (22 to 21 in 13 less games) but dropped from 63 assists to 32 assists.

Personally I think that had a lot to do with experimenting with him on the right side of the PP and needing him to play center with line mates that weren't finishing like they should have been.

The stats bear that out to a degree.

If I am AV, I do whatever possible to make sure Giroux is as comfortable as possible so that he can produce at the highest level possible.

I think would offset maybe having a weaker player at 3rd line center. Hopefully if Patrick is healthy the problem doesn't arise, at least to the degree it did last season.
- MBFlyerfan

I think the coaching staff did an outstanding job with the exception of the PP. The experiment of moving Giroux to the other side of the ice was not a good choice in my opinion. He never looked comfortable there.

I attribute that to bad puck luck and the play of his teammates on the ice. His play didn't drop. Therian the clown had him where on the power play?
- Striiker

I think there is some of that for sure but to completely discount his play dropping is simply not accurate.