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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 19 @ 11:26 PM ET
Thanks for sharing that Boon👍🏻
Nice to see some people don’t take for granted what they have.

- Shuswap Wap



boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 19 @ 11:28 PM ET
I'm going to say that you bear most of the responsibility for reading that.
- RealityChecker


Affirmative.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 19 @ 11:28 PM ET
WTF?

It's insulting to be told your family who fought and died against the Nazis are guilty for what National Socialist Germany did because you share the same skin pigment as them. Thats the idealism that the Nazis used. An acceptable narrative today for some reason.

- boonerbuck

Your book should be titled your struggle.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 19 @ 11:30 PM ET
Your book should be titled your struggle.
- RealityChecker


Doubt I ever write a book. The idea comes from others mostly. I am writing though. I enjoy it.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:32 PM ET
Well, let's get this thread really going.

Cannibalism yes on no?

How about Aides?



belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:37 PM ET
WTF?

It's insulting to be told your family who fought and died against the Nazis are guilty for what National Socialist Germany did because you share the same skin pigment as them. Thats the idealism that the Nazis used. An acceptable narrative today for some reason.

- boonerbuck


If you're (general you) being called a Nazi, I'm going to go ahead and assume its not primarily because of your skin pigment.

You've got to be pretty (frank)ing far down the YouTube Conspiracy theory rabbit hole to be buying that white people are being unfairly targeted as Nazis. Again skin pigment is irrelevant, if you show up with your buddies carrying tiki torches and yelling white power, you're a Nazi and you should expect to be called out as one at the very least.

Your narrative that white people are being unfairly labeled as Nazis is incredibly ignorant or willfully antagonistic considering the climate.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 19 @ 11:38 PM ET
Holtby’s woes 😂

https://www.cbssports.com...th-his-two-pet-tortoises/

- Nighthawk


Well good to see Canuck players coming to Canada to do their quarantine. Maybe we will have camps in December....
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 19 @ 11:57 PM ET
If you're (general you) being called a Nazi, I'm going to go ahead and assume its not primarily because of your skin pigment.

You've got to be pretty (frank)ing far down the YouTube Conspiracy theory rabbit hole to be buying that white people are being unfairly targeted as Nazis. Again skin pigment is irrelevant, if you show up with your buddies carrying tiki torches and yelling white power, you're a Nazi and you should expect to be called out as one at the very least.

Your narrative that white people are being unfairly labeled as Nazis is incredibly ignorant or willfully antagonistic considering the climate.

- belcherbd


You are not even on the same page as me. I am not being called a Nazi. Guilty of their crimes based on skin color and this is only one example. Just like Muslims being responsible for 9/11. Jews being responsible for Soviet crimes based on their early leadership/idealists. These are the narratives I'm saying are ignorant and lead to the ugly pages in history. You took one example and rewrote it. Why?

What a weird rewrite. How the hell did you make that jump? You fabricated what you are calling "my narrative".
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 20 @ 12:30 AM ET
Good comment.

These narrow minded people are the ones who blame all Muslims for 9/11 and cheer on waging war against nations who not only had nothing to do with it, but are enemies to the minority ideologies like Al-Qaeda and ISIS etc... They are the ones who get easily manipulated into thinking every Jew is in on a conspiracy and turn their backs when they are rounded up and sent to concentration camps. These are the people who shrug their shoulders when a million Christians in Armenia are killed by the Ottomans or when Jihadist groups in Syria do genocide on the Yazidi Christians because... well they deserve it... look what Christians did in history.

There's always a minority extremist group manipulating the poorly informed. Whether its Jihadists, Zionists or Christian groups like the Klan. Their objective is to get the masses to lash out at a race/religion.

All this applies to skin color as well. Almost all of the white people in the world banded together to fight the Nazis but if you are born with that skin pigment, you are held responsible. News flash folks, this is the root tool of one genocide after another in history. How can a new born baby with a certain skin pigment be responsible for what a minority of people did in history yet I hear it over and over from clueless people.

- boonerbuck


Can we agree then that all religious organizations are evil, and despise them all?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 20 @ 12:38 AM ET
Belcher... here's the original quote from Pres. and the entire context of what I'm saying and I covered multiple races and religions in my comment.

Personally, judging and pigeonholing any people's for their race, religion or country of origin is prejudicial and bigoted.


I gave examples of Christians, Jews, Muslims and people of European decent being singled out for things extremists have done in history. Like Pres. says, that is prejudice and bigoted. I'm sorry to hear you take exception to that.

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 20 @ 12:49 AM ET
Can we agree then that all religious organizations are evil, and despise them all?
- 1970vintage


How about we start with the one who spreads hate and division here ... they are quite insidious in their remarks here and in other forums yet no one holds him accountable.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 20 @ 12:56 AM ET
How about we start with the one who spreads hate and division here ... they are quite insidious in their remarks here and in other forums yet no one holds him accountable.
- NuckUp


Why would we start there?

You need to get your pronouns in check, I’m not sure how many threadorists we’re talking about here.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 20 @ 12:58 AM ET
Can we agree then that all religious organizations are evil, and despise them all?
- 1970vintage


I am an atheist who opposes the abusers and extremists. I'm not going to pigeonhole all religious organizations. Sad to say, the list of crimes in history is pretty long though.


NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 20 @ 1:01 AM ET
Why would we start there?

You need to get your pronouns in check, I’m not sure how many threadorists we’re talking about here.

- 1970vintage


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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 20 @ 1:29 AM ET
Belcher... here's the original quote from Pres. and the entire context of what I'm saying and I covered multiple races and religions in my comment.

Personally, judging and pigeonholing any people's for their race, religion or country of origin is prejudicial and bigoted.


I gave examples of Christians, Jews, Muslims and people of European decent being singled out for things extremists have done in history. Like Pres. says, that is prejudice and bigoted. I'm sorry to hear you take exception to that.

- boonerbuck


One of these things is not like the other....

You did list a number of common prejudices and then followed it up with some asinine tangent about all white people being held responsible for Nazis.

Muslims, Jews, minorities have in general experienced bigoted stereotypes, policies and injustices. White Canadians, Dutch, Russians etc aren't being called Nazis on any relatable level of at all or experiencing similar persecution.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 20 @ 1:44 AM ET
One of these things is not like the other....

You did list a number of common prejudices and then followed it up with some asinine tangent about all white people being held responsible for Nazis.

Muslims, Jews, minorities have in general experienced bigoted stereotypes, policies and injustices. White Canadians, Dutch, Russians etc aren't being called Nazis on any relatable level of at all or experiencing similar persecution.

- belcherbd


You are still running with the part you fabricated. I never claimed whites were being called Nazis. I talked about the white nations that fought the Nazis later being guilt tripped for the crimes of the Nazis did WWII based on skin color regardless of just how much Europe gave to defeat those monsters. I gave examples of other groups as well. The entire context was the same beginning to end and in line with Pres. comment.

All this about present day Nazis and Tiki torches and unfair labels is 100% your comments. I'm not even talking about whats going on in the states right now. I'm talking about history. WWII, holocaust, Armenian genocide, Yazidi genocide, 9/11. What the hell are you even talking about? Your rewrite is 100% out of context.

Nice try.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 20 @ 1:45 AM ET
Sounds like you are ok with all the world greed that inflicts starvation though...which makes it ok...
- LordHumungous


The same greedy hands are taking advantage of covid to reshape the economy in the largest asset transfer to the top 0.00001 percent in modern history. Feeding the fear to develop the digital economy at the cost to face to face stores. The upper middle class is going to be decimated.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 20 @ 2:00 AM ET
One of these things is not like the other....

You did list a number of common prejudices and then followed it up with some asinine tangent about all white people being held responsible for Nazis.

Muslims, Jews, minorities have in general experienced bigoted stereotypes, policies and injustices. White Canadians, Dutch, Russians etc aren't being called Nazis on any relatable level of at all or experiencing similar persecution.

- belcherbd


I don't really want to wade into this... but... there have been several videos coming out of the states and certain protest groups where people have been quoted ascribing racial stereotypes, like nazi, to caucasians. Racism is gross and deserves a response.

At issue isn't the racism that minorities face, at issue is the statement on its own, which is inherently racist yet does not face the same vigorous response.

ACAB
Eat the rich
Anti racist
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 20 @ 2:02 AM ET
#POLITICBUZZ
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 20 @ 2:07 AM ET
I don't really want to wade into this... but... there have been several videos coming out of the states and certain protest groups where people have been quoted ascribing racial stereotypes, like nazi, to caucasians. Racism is gross and deserves a response.

At issue isn't the racism that minorities face, at issue is the statement on its own, which is inherently racist yet does not face the same vigorous response.

ACAB
Eat the rich
Anti racist

- Pres.cup


Somehow he saw this in what I said. Not even the same topic. Hilarious.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 20 @ 2:10 AM ET
Somehow he saw this in what I said. Not even the same topic. Hilarious.

- boonerbuck


Complex subject with many nuances.

It's all a form of repression.

Right now I'm getting very worried at the repression that's coming, things are going to be different coming out of this of we're not careful.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 20 @ 2:12 AM ET
You are still running with the part you fabricated. I never claimed whites were being called Nazis. I talked about the white nations that fought the Nazis later being guilt tripped for the crimes of the Nazis did WWII based on skin color regardless of just how much Europe gave to defeat those monsters. I gave examples of other groups as well. The entire context was the same beginning to end and in line with Pres. comment.

All this about present day Nazis and Tiki torches and unfair labels is 100% your comments. I'm not even talking about whats going on in the states right now. I'm talking about history. WWII, holocaust, Armenian genocide, Yazidi genocide, 9/11. What the hell are you even talking about? Your rewrite is 100% out of context.

Nice try.

- boonerbuck


Still looks like you are trying to equate the muslims being blamed for 9-11 and all white people being held responsible for Nazis.

If you had tried to associate German/Italian/Axis countries with unfair guilt and responsibility being heaped upon them for their countries role in fascism, you'd at least be in the realm of relatability but it sounds like you're trying to suggest that Australians with Scottish descent are in same way being persecuted unjustly.

If that's not your point, what the (frank) are you going on about?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 20 @ 2:21 AM ET
I don't really want to wade into this... but... there have been several videos coming out of the states and certain protest groups where people have been quoted ascribing racial stereotypes, like nazi, to caucasians. Racism is gross and deserves a response.

At issue isn't the racism that minorities face, at issue is the statement on its own, which is inherently racist yet does not face the same vigorous response.

ACAB
Eat the rich
Anti racist

- Pres.cup


A couple of videos on the internet of people being called Nazis undeserving is a tragedy. They must of been really upset of being mischaracterized.



Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 20 @ 2:39 AM ET
A couple of videos on the internet of people being called Nazis undeserving is a tragedy. They must of been really upset of being mischaracterized.
- belcherbd


I never said it was a tragedy or mischaracterization....

Your knee jerk reaction to my post is indicative of a new trend to stifle discourse by jumping to extremes. This type of infighting is encouraged by the media to keep us plebs distracted from the subtle shift at the very top of the economic pyramid that's occurring. Don't fall into the social justice trap, there is right and there is wrong, don't make exceptions.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 20 @ 2:39 AM ET
Still looks like you are trying to equate the muslims being blamed for 9-11 and all white people being held responsible for Nazis.

If you had tried to associate German/Italian/Axis countries with unfair guilt and responsibility being heaped upon them for their countries role in fascism, you'd at least be in the realm of relatability but it sounds like you're trying to suggest that Australians with Scottish descent are in same way being persecuted unjustly.

If that's not your point, what the (frank) are you going on about?

- belcherbd


Nice. I guess you couldnt support your claim of what I said when looking back so now the switch up. A minute ago you had fabricated quotes, off topic conspiracy narratives and judgment.

The belief and comments that Muslims are responsible for 9/11 and whites are responsible for the Holocaust are the same yes. Both are extremely ignorant and racist and unfortunately common when people are faced with rational thinking.

You've been fighting this comment for hours now. What a thing to get triggered over.
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