If it’s me I send Ghost down to the Phantoms and he stays down there until he hopefully plays his way out of it. I think if there was a trade that would have made sense it would have happened by now.

Not a whole lot of other options for a guy that isn’t playing well and the coach doesn’t seem to favor.
- hereticpride

You're basically devaluing your own potential asset as you watch a lesser team claim him for nothing. Players get hurt and you need 7 defenseman. Why not give him a chance with a clean slate in camp to play his way into the lineup?

Or let him play for a spot in camp and see how things shake out
- ClaudeFather

I think that was implied. He does not expect him to make the team out of camp.

And the 48 game proposal is seriously lame.

Times have changed, figure it out NHL. You cannot have 2 consecutive 50ish game seasons. When the NBA figured it out. Roster size notwithstanding.

If it’s me I send Ghost down to the Phantoms and he stays down there until he hopefully plays his way out of it. I think if there was a trade that would have made sense it would have happened by now.

Not a whole lot of other options for a guy that isn’t playing well and the coach doesn’t seem to favor.
- hereticpride

I have a hard time believing some team doesn't snag him off of waivers before he ever gets to the AHL. Maybe his contract scares most teams off. But I dont think it scares all the teams off.

You're basically devaluing your own potential asset as you watch a lesser team claim him for nothing. Players get hurt and you need 7 defenseman. Why not give him a chance with a clean slate in camp to play his way into the lineup?
- MJL

Wasn’t last year his clean slate?

Idk, I just don’t think AV gives him a long leash to find his game if that’s what he needs. In the AHL he can take as much time as he needs to sort himself out. I have to imagine they tried to move him this summer and the value wasn’t there so I think the odds of him getting claimed with the expansion draft coming up are slim.

But perhaps he comes out on fire in camp and this is all moot. Hopefully that’s the case.

Wasn’t last year his clean slate?

Idk, I just don’t think AV gives him a long leash to find his game if that’s what he needs. In the AHL he can take as much time as he needs to sort himself out. I have to imagine they tried to move him this summer and the value wasn’t there so I think the odds of him getting claimed with the expansion draft coming up are slim.

But perhaps he comes out on fire in camp and this is all moot. Hopefully that’s the case.
- hereticpride

Not sure if you can say that considering he had surgery on both knees over the course of the season.

You're basically devaluing your own potential asset as you watch a lesser team claim him for nothing. Players get hurt and you need 7 defenseman. Why not give him a chance with a clean slate in camp to play his way into the lineup?
- MJL

Well didnt he get a clean slate last year as the coaching staff was new?
Edit saw was already asked.
Ghost is out of excuses.

I have a hard time believing some team doesn't snag him off of waivers before he ever gets to the AHL. Maybe his contract scares most teams off. But I dont think it scares all the teams off.
- MBFlyerfan

Well what teams would be wiling to take that risk? Then which have the cap room? I can easily see him clear waivers.

Best thing , less some good trade, is for the coaches to utilize his strengths. Not bench him after a mistake while others get much more lead way.Now I dont think this will happen as signing Gus is pretty clear what they think of Ghost imo.

Well what teams would be wiling to take that risk? Then which have the cap room? I can easily see him clear waivers.

Best thing , less some good trade, is for the coaches to utilize his strengths. Not bench him after a mistake while others get much more lead way.Now I dont think this will happen as signing Gus is pretty clear what they think of Ghost imo.
- login

I have no idea. Maybe the Devils. Kings, Senators, Red Wings.

Just spitballing.

Wasn’t last year his clean slate?

Idk, I just don’t think AV gives him a long leash to find his game if that’s what he needs. In the AHL he can take as much time as he needs to sort himself out. I have to imagine they tried to move him this summer and the value wasn’t there so I think the odds of him getting claimed with the expansion draft coming up are slim.

But perhaps he comes out on fire in camp and this is all moot. Hopefully that’s the case.
- hereticpride

I don't think any coach gives every player the same value but Gostisbehere deserves the chance to earn a spot in camp. You may be right about getting claimed but carrying dead money on the cap is never a good idea.

I don't think any coach gives every player the same value but Gostisbehere deserves the chance to earn a spot in camp. You may be right about getting claimed but carrying dead money on the cap is never a good idea.
- MJL

I think a healthy Ghost is a good asset . But he’s always hurt. He also might be a player that can’t play with injuries like Coots can or other players. I’m no knocking him for that either, everybody’s different. I do believe this is his last chance with the Flyers.
It’s a Shame, the dude was frickin exciting when he was on.

I think a healthy Ghost is a good asset . But he’s always hurt. He also might be a player that can’t play with injuries like Coots can or other players. I’m no knocking him for that either, everybody’s different. I do believe this is his last chance with the Flyers.
It’s a Shame, the dude was frickin exciting when he was on.
- Angus4444

I personally think the physical issues led to a major confidence issue. while he was never a speedster, his mobility was a key to his game. If he is healthy and can stay healthy, he could find his game again. The issue is it's been a long time since he's been consistently good.

I personally think the physical issues led to a major confidence issue. while he was never a speedster, his mobility was a key to his game. If he is healthy and can stay healthy, he could find his game again. The issue is it's been a long time since he's been consistently good.
- MJL

It has been a long time. I firmly believe the good Ghost is there somewhere . Agree on confidence issue. If he could get minutes and 20 straight starts to start season .......who knows 🤔

I think the only way Ghost gets his mojo back is having him play meaningful minutes at the NHL level. Sending him to the AHL won't do anything.

I know ice time is earned, but Ghost's skill set is meant for the first power play unit. Personally I am in favor of placing him there for an extended period, taking the good with the bad.
- StepfordSam

Well I could also see ghost and Gus as the second pp unit. So many options. I like provie on the first unit esp if jake is the rd.

Ghost is on the outside looking in as he is the 7th dman right now. Barring an injury dont see him getting any top 6 consistent minutes. Based on the coach plays who will he displace? Maybe maybe Gus as he dont seem like an AV type guy.

Have to think the GM has had no offers really imo to dump him. I cant see like some have said he is holding out for a better offer. If the chance was there he would have dumped him already.

Ghost is on the outside looking in as he is the 7th dman right now. Barring an injury dont see him getting any top 6 consistent minutes. Based on the coach plays who will he displace? Maybe maybe Gus as he dont seem like an AV type guy.

Have to think the GM has had no offers really imo to dump him. I cant see like some have said he is holding out for a better offer. If the chance was there he would have dumped him already.
- login

I agree he is but with Brauns and haggs playoff performance they also are playing for a spot. AV has to be coming into the season solving for some of the issues that came in the playoffs. I was a fan of the Braun trade, he was well worth it in the regular season but was not in the PO. Hagg is who he is but is one who will sit some. Ghost needs to come and show he can shut down plays at the blueline and provide quick outs, he does that he can win a spot.

I agree he is but with Brauns and haggs playoff performance they also are playing for a spot. AV has to be coming into the season solving for some of the issues that came in the playoffs. I was a fan of the Braun trade, he was well worth it in the regular season but was not in the PO. Hagg is who he is but is one who will sit some. Ghost needs to come and show he can shut down plays at the blueline and provide quick outs, he does that he can win a spot.
- wcorvette

No doubt that an improved Gostisbehere can earn a spot. No doubt in my mind that Fletcher has received offers for Gostisbehere. Most likely they involved taking back another contract. In that case he's better off holding onto Gostisbehere and seeing if he can rebound.

I agree he is but with Brauns and haggs playoff performance they also are playing for a spot. AV has to be coming into the season solving for some of the issues that came in the playoffs. I was a fan of the Braun trade, he was well worth it in the regular season but was not in the PO. Hagg is who he is but is one who will sit some. Ghost needs to come and show he can shut down plays at the blueline and provide quick outs, he does that he can win a spot.
- wcorvette

This is where I disagree. The coach loves those 2. They have a spot locked up imo. AV is set in his ways on many things it seems to me. Unless one of those completely poops the bed and ghost is very good he won't play.

Ghost does not and I can not see him getting the benefit of the doubt those 2 get. He makes a mistake he gets pulled. Those 2 can make many with no consequences. I am not a huge Ghost fan by any means. I tstill take his skill set over that of Hagg everyday when putting out my lineup.

No doubt that an improved Gostisbehere can earn a spot. No doubt in my mind that Fletcher has received offers for Gostisbehere. Most likely they involved taking back another contract. In that case he's better off holding onto Gostisbehere and seeing if he can rebound.
- MJL

How can he rebound when he wont be in the top 6 on a consistent basis? Your nuts if you think Hagg or Braun will sit in his favor. Signing Gus clearly has him on the outside.

How can he rebound when he wont be in the top 6 on a consistent basis? Your nuts if you think Hagg or Braun will sit in his favor. Signing Gus clearly has him on the outside.
- login

I don't know how nuts it is, wasn't Hagg a healthy scratch a decent amount last season? I know Ghost was too, but I don't think it's that crazy of a thought.

I don't know how nuts it is, wasn't Hagg a healthy scratch a decent amount last season? I know Ghost was too, but I don't think it's that crazy of a thought.
- Ftown19125

Time will tell about Ghost and what chance he actually gets.

I don't know how nuts it is, wasn't Hagg a healthy scratch a decent amount last season? I know Ghost was too, but I don't think it's that crazy of a thought.
- Ftown19125

To start, Gostisbehere is going to be on the outside looking in and is likely to start at the #7 spot on the depth chart entering camp. He's going to have to significantly outplay some people to earn a starting spot. The deck is stacked against him but it's not impossible for him to re-find his game.

To start, Gostisbehere is going to be on the outside looking in and is likely to start at the #7 spot on the depth chart entering camp. He's going to have to significantly outplay some people to earn a starting spot. The deck is stacked against him but it's not impossible for him to re-find his game.
- MJL

Not impossible though probably not likely; at least with the flyers.

This is where I disagree. The coach loves those 2. They have a spot locked up imo. AV is set in his ways on many things it seems to me. Unless one of those completely poops the bed and ghost is very good he won't play.

Ghost does not and I can not see him getting the benefit of the doubt those 2 get. He makes a mistake he gets pulled. Those 2 can make many with no consequences. I am not a huge Ghost fan by any means. I tstill take his skill set over that of Hagg everyday when putting out my lineup.
- login

there is a case that Ghost has a shorter leash and I don't like it. I said in the PO, let him play, watching others get hemmed in shift after shift, why wouldn't you give him a shot. New season and where I think you underestimate is that AV now has higher expectations, he will do what he has to do to win, I don't think favoring will pay in it, style will