My uncle knows him relatively well, and the way he makes it sound, he's a much different person than he used to be.
- TheSabresTaco

Maybe he is. He sounds like a Richard every time I hear him talk. I want one ring for Allen so I don't have to hear about him as much. He'll be a HOFer who almost did what Allen did

Joe Flacco won SB MVP and the 49ers out rushed Baltimore 2-to-1!

Are you saying that game proves QBs don't matter? It proves the opposite. His run was like the Hamburglar. He got ridiculously hot
- jcragcrumple

Joe Flacco also beat Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and the height of their careers that year.

He was an average QB, with a running game and a defence.

How in (frank)all is this still an argument. The outlier of a successful franchise is the an elite D coupled with an elite run game WITHOUT a great to elite QB.

It's like thinking the Sabres should be good last year despite analytics suggesting they shouldn't, because their bottom 9 is an embarrassment. Yet they started hot. And they died. Because that's what eventually happens to almost all teams without an elite QB. They (frank)ing die. Like this argument.
- TheSabresTaco

The Sabres have a top 5 Center in the NHL and don’t even make the playoffs. We are the Houston Texans of the NHL.

Joe Flacco also beat Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and the height of their careers that year.

He was an average QB, with a running game and a defence.
- Pegullaville

He won SB MVP while the 49ers outrushed his team 2-to-1. It's over. It's done. QB's are where it's at.

I finally get it though. The one time your team won a superbowl in your lifetime it was with a decrepit Payton Manning and a terrific defense. So from your perspective that is THE way to win.

That narrative does not jive with the current NFL, or really 90% of the past, as has been repeatedly proven to you. You are in the cult of "run and stop the run." Some day you will realize you've been brainwashed.

20 years of poopty Broncos QBs should do the trick

He won SB MVP while the 49ers outrushed his team 2-to-1. It's over. It's done. QB's are where it's at.

I finally get it though. The one time your team won a superbowl in your lifetime it was with a decrepit Payton Manning and a terrific defense. So from your perspective that is THE way to win.

That narrative does not jive with the current NFL, or really 90% of the past, as has been repeatedly proven to you. You are in the cult of "run and stop the run." Some day you will realize you've been brainwashed.

20 years of poopty Broncos QBs should do the trick
- jcragcrumple

The average QB got hot.

Any one of these average QB’s can get hot too and win the SB.

If Baker Mayfield wins the SB this year am
I supposed to believe he’s Elite ?

How in (frank)all is this still an argument. The outlier of a successful franchise is the an elite D coupled with an elite run game WITHOUT a great to elite QB.

It's like thinking the Sabres should be good last year despite analytics suggesting they shouldn't, because their bottom 9 is an embarrassment. Yet they started hot. And they died. Because that's what eventually happens to almost all teams without an elite QB. They (frank)ing die. Like this argument.
- TheSabresTaco

Good post, expect the part where this arguement is going to die - ever

The average QB got hot.

Any one of these average QB’s can get hot too and win the SB.

If Baker Mayfield wins the SB this year am
I supposed to believe he’s Elite ?
- Pegullaville

Believe whatever you want. I think it's going to be Brees or Rodgers vs Mahomes or Allen

I went to Jim Kelly camp a few times as a kid. He'd drive around on a golf cart and sign autographs (Take note, Samson)

He drove up to me, I dropped mine, he ran it over, looked and me and drove away like he was holding up a foursome on the 16th hole.

True story
- sbroads24

oh my

I'm glad we have Allen now so I don't have to listen to as much Jim Kelly idol worship. He's such an arrogant ass. I cringe every time he talks
- jcragcrumple

Jim Kelly has changed.

He's a good guy. Very Buffalo. very engaging. Nice.

my son took his camp, Jim was super involved, came up and chatted with us Dad's. Great experience.

Funny part, there's about 40 games going on simultaneously and Jim jumps in and plays qb for a few plays.

He tells all the kids in our group, "keep it short" something about his arm.

My kid, obviously not paying attention, goes deep.
Big throw, Bigger catch...... 50 yard bomb
Video proof 🙂

I hope Allen gets a ring in the next few years so Jim Kelly can be the 2nd best QB in franchise history. Allen is already going to break a few of his records this year.
- jcragcrumple

allen is playing better this year then any of the glory years from kelly

Jim Kelly has changed.

He's a good guy. Very Buffalo. very engaging. Nice.


- Boss34

this is good to hear

Nah. Gonna go with Elitesolainen this year.
- TheSabresTaco

Maybe try skinners relevant?

Change our fortunes , thanks for the jinx

Maybe try skinners relevant?

Change our fortunes , thanks for the jinx
- Boss34

what would you give up for pat kane?


risto, olofsson, casey and a prospect?

Maybe try skinners relevant?

Change our fortunes , thanks for the jinx
- Boss34

Might be a good idea actually

https://twitter.com/jfres.../1336728929701408773?s=21

Projects us last in division

I’d assume because the goaltending and defense as projected are still awful

Cozens and Dahlin can lift this but only by so much.

Adams or Pegula or whoever is running the show botched what could’ve been a meaningful offseason

what would you give up for pat kane?


risto, olofsson, casey and a prospect?
- homiedclown

Risto, Okposo, Casey, 1st.

Jim Kelly has changed.

He's a good guy. Very Buffalo. very engaging. Nice.

my son took his camp, Jim was super involved, came up and chatted with us Dad's. Great experience.

Funny part, there's about 40 games going on simultaneously and Jim jumps in and plays qb for a few plays.

He tells all the kids in our group, "keep it short" something about his arm.

My kid, obviously not paying attention, goes deep.
Big throw, Bigger catch...... 50 yard bomb
Video proof 🙂
- Boss34

It was fun as a kid. Not sure when your kid did it but we did it on the turf in the stadium.

He used to throw balls into the stands to kids and parents

Risto, Okposo, Casey, 1st.
- TheSabresTaco

doubt the hawks would take on okposo

I know terry explored getting kane a few years ago

hall, eichel and kane would be scary good for a playoff starved franchise in a shortened season

Believe whatever you want. I think it's going to be Brees or Rodgers vs Mahomes or Allen
- jcragcrumple

The last two games Mahomes played last year he played Ryan Tannehill and Jimmy Goroppolo.

Both ran the ball and played good defence.

There is only one Patrick Mahomes.

The Houston Texans had an elite QB, had a 20 point lead, and still managed to lose by 20

doubt the hawks would take on risto


I know terry explored getting kane a few years ago

hall, eichel and kane would be scary good for a playoff starved franchise in a shortened season
- homiedclown

it's what I would do, not what I would expect to be a good trade. Absorbing that cap is a huge problem. Or, send Hall back, with Riso. Not sure it really makes sense, but you could.

Seems highly unrealistic at this juncture. You can wave goodbye to Hall after this season if you pulled that trade

it's what I would do, not what I would expect to be a good trade. Absorbing that cap is a huge problem. Or, send Hall back, with Riso. Not sure it really makes sense, but you could.

Seems highly unrealistic at this juncture. You can wave goodbye to Hall after this season if you pulled that trade
- TheSabresTaco

next summer it would be easy to move okposo

would have to move reinhart next summer as well if hall were to come back

The last two games Mahomes played last year he played Ryan Tannehill and Jimmy Goroppolo.

Both ran the ball and played good defence.

There is only one Patrick Mahomes.

The Houston Texans had an elite QB, had a 20 point lead, and still managed to lose by 20
- Pegullaville

Ryan Tannehill was one of the leagues best QB’s when he took over for Mariota. Tannehill has always actually been pretty solid.

Watson is great
Mahomes is fantastic
Lamar Jackson led the league in TD passes

Last four teams left were 4 QB’s playing at incredibly high levels.

Ryan Tannehill was one of the leagues best QB’s when he took over for Mariota. Tannehill has always actually been pretty solid.

Watson is great
Mahomes is fantastic
Lamar Jackson led the league in TD passes

Last four teams left were 4 QB’s playing at incredibly high levels.
- sbroads24

Tannehill literally played the role of Alex Smith while Henry ran for 180 yards + two weeks in a row in the playoffs.

Shut down Henry and you beat the Titans.

"Beady continues to talk about and engage with Pegulaville and Fitz when we aren't around"

Proceed to talk about Beady and engage with him when he's not around.

And for the record, that's both of them now gay-bashing me and using homophobic insults to try and get a leg-up.

Same person. It's as uncanny as the X-Men.
- 3rd GM's the charm

Lol... ok Alex

You haven’t seen Jake Plummer in the super bowl. You haven’t seen Jay Cutler in the Super Bowl, you haven’t seen Kyle Orton in the super bowl, you haven’t seen Tim Tebow in the super bowl.

All four above, have played with top 5-10 defenses. All four of the above had good/great running backs.

You have seen Manning and Elway go to 4 Super Bowls though.

The QB is more important. It’s not a debate. I can’t believe I keep responding to this.

I think it’s because you’re usually pretty logical
- sbroads24

Great, more of this