I'm not. I'm saying I'd have rather have traded the hypothetical pick 8 for Monahan (long term solution) than get a stop gap in Staal because odds are we aren't good enough again
- sbroads24

CGY didn’t trade Monahan though
Might as well be mad we didn’t get Couturier, or Crosby, or Scheifele, etc

I guess there’s 29 other GMs that are putzes as well, bc NO ONE TRADED FOR HIM
- jdfitz77

I sincerely regret responding to you almost immediately, every time

CGY didn’t trade Monahan though
Might as well be mad we didn’t get Couturier, or Crosby, or Scheifele, etc
- jdfitz77

Yes same thing. Nailed it again.

Dammit. Ok now I’m actually done responding

Allen is elite, Davis is really good, you suck

Adios

I sincerely regret responding to you almost immediately, every time
- sbroads24

"I feel bad insulting you so I won't do it" after hurling insults about psychological well-being.

I sincerely regret responding to you almost immediately, every time
- sbroads24

Yawn

You’re upset we didn’t “do more” when you’ve got no clue if “more” could’ve been done

Have we seen a bunch of big trades happen?
Have we seen ANY???

Yes same thing. Nailed it again.

Dammit. Ok now I’m actually done responding

Allen is elite, Davis is really good, you suck

Adios
- sbroads24

I'm not convinced. You are ordered to convince me.

I'm not. I'm saying I'd have rather have traded the hypothetical pick 8 for Monahan (long term solution) than get a stop gap in Staal because odds are we aren't good enough again
- sbroads24

IMO that is bad asset management. I doubt the cost would have been limited to 8th, and his Cap hit is $3.1m therefore would have jeopardized the addion of Hall. Lastly, Cozens is your 2C in as little as 56 games from now.
Too much cost for 56 games.

IMO that is bad asset management. I doubt the cost would have been limited to 8th, and his Cap hit is $3.1m therefore would have jeopardized the addion of Hall. Lastly, Cozens is your 2C in as little as 56 games from now.
Too much cost for 56 games.
- IonSabres

for all we know, cozens will come in like a bull in a china shop, take that second line center and staal is either playing on his wing or third line center

IMO that is bad asset management. I doubt the cost would have been limited to 8th, and his Cap hit is $3.1m therefore would have jeopardized the addion of Hall. Lastly, Cozens is your 2C in as little as 56 games from now.
Too much cost for 56 games.
- IonSabres

I regret getting back into this specific conversation because of the people that are diehards on both sides of the argument. But I'mma throw this out there.

In a vacuum. Leave out all the factors of reality, fits, talent etc.

Would you, or anyone trade 2020 8th OA for Sean Monahan. Just that trade. Nothing else involved, no salary retention, nothing. Keep in mind, this trade will occur prior to the arrival of Eric Staal.

for all we know, cozens will come in like a bull in a china shop, take that second line center and staal is either playing on his wing or third line center
- homiedclown

I hope so, just following Dach's development of last year would be perfect...3RW -> 3C -> 2C

for all we know, cozens will come in like a bull in a china shop, take that second line center and staal is either playing on his wing or third line center
- homiedclown

If we're 30, 40 games in and the coaches are starting to question whether Staal or Cozens should be playing 2C, because he's playing well above expectations, it will be an incredibly great problem to have. It will mean KA has done his job effectively, by providing a highly capable one year stop gap.

for all we know, cozens will come in like a bull in a china shop, take that second line center and staal is either playing on his wing or third line center
- homiedclown

We’d be in pretty good shape up front if that happened

I regret getting back into this specific conversation because of the people that are diehards on both sides of the argument. But I'mma throw this out there.

In a vacuum. Leave out all the factors of reality, fits, talent etc.

Would you, or anyone trade 2020 8th OA for Sean Monahan. Just that trade. Nothing else involved, no salary retention, nothing. Keep in mind, this trade will occur prior to the arrival of Eric Staal.
- TheSabresTaco

I was all for that. So sick of picking 8th

Eichel is going to need to throw for 5000 yards and Hall is going to have to have 1500 yards receiving this year to neutralize the run defense of the Islanders

I was all for that. So sick of picking 8th

Eichel is going to need to throw for 5000 yards and Hall is going to have to have 1500 yards receiving this year to neutralize the run defense of the Islanders
- jcragcrumple

U guys are acting like we turned down Monahan for 8th though
Seriously, did i miss that?

I regret getting back into this specific conversation because of the people that are diehards on both sides of the argument. But I'mma throw this out there.

In a vacuum. Leave out all the factors of reality, fits, talent etc.

Would you, or anyone trade 2020 8th OA for Sean Monahan. Just that trade. Nothing else involved, no salary retention, nothing. Keep in mind, this trade will occur prior to the arrival of Eric Staal.
- TheSabresTaco

Honestly, I'd think about it, but yes.
I wouldn't do it with an eye for the longterm, rather 2 years max depending on Cozens development ... then trade him out to fill another more immediate need.

U guys are acting like we turned down Monahan for 8th though
Seriously, did i miss that?
- jdfitz77

I'm answering a hypothetical

I was all for that. So sick of picking 8th

Eichel is going to need to throw for 5000 yards and Hall is going to have to have 1500 yards receiving this year to neutralize the run defense of the Islanders
- jcragcrumple

I'm answering a hypothetical
- jcragcrumple

He mad

Also...

Hall + Staal is just so much better than Monahan
Plus we’d lose the good assets it would’ve taken to get Monahan

- homiedclown

Fvckin Russian judge ob the left with the 10-1/2 card.

I'm answering a hypothetical
- jcragcrumple

So we’re getting upset about hypotheticals now?
Makes no sense to me

We did good this offseason
Still have work to do obviously though

Fvckin Russian judge ob the left with the 10-1/2 card.
- IonSabres

speaking of annoying things

no more fuccilo commercials here

must have closed all his dealerships down here

Also...

Hall + Staal is just so much better than Monahan
Plus we’d lose the good assets it would’ve taken to get Monahan
- jdfitz77

I agree.

Quinn panning out and being a top 6 forward for the next 10 years trumps the 2C that can’t defend if his life depended on it.

Eye test and analytics favour Staal over Monahan for this season, with the only criticism being ageism bias.

So we’re getting upset about hypotheticals now?
Makes no sense to me

We did good this offseason
Still have work to do obviously though
- jdfitz77

You are, not me. I like the Staal move. I would have done Monahan for 8 also as presented in the hypothetical

I agree.

Quinn panning out and being a top 6 forward for the next 10 years trumps the 2C that can’t defend if his life depended on it.

Eye test and analytics favour Staal over Monahan for this season, with the only criticism being ageism bias.
- Pegullaville

We FINALLY got a decent 2C replacement,
and some ppl are still pouting
Even though we got him for basically nothing

We sign Hall, an almost unbelievable move, and it’s still crybaby bullsh!t bc Risto is still on the roster

Some ppl just need to wallow in the misery i suppose