This is a good post!
- TheUltimateJet

Actually it's a false post, Quebec never won a cup.

Actually it's a false post, Quebec never won a cup.
- JetFuel

Perhaps Ross77 should have said the franchise won the cup.

They traded Sundin when they had two better players at the position he played, and won a cup within 2 years.

The Jets don’t have two franchise wingers better than Laine, nor are they in a position to trade him and win a cup with the pieces.
- Rexypoo

This is not correct. Forsberg was an unknown when they traded Sundin.

Talent wise the Jets are as good as any team in the division. Problem is they play a trash system that relies on a Vezina performance by Hellebuyck to bail them out.
- BWJumper

This 💯

What in Rexypoo's comment would indicate that he'd now want a Laine trade?
- JetFuel

Jetfuel, it was sarcasm, google it

This is not correct. Forsberg was an unknown when they traded Sundin.
- TheUltimateJet

Ultimate is 100% accurate. The drop off after Sakic and Sundin at the time of the trade was massive!!

Actually it's a false post, Quebec never won a cup.
- JetFuel

I didn’t realize you never knew Quebec turned into Colorado, I’ll be more clear next time.

I’m not here advocating for a Laine trade but I don’t like when people assume you can’t win a trade by trading the best player at the time of the deal.
I was reminded of the two trades the flyers made a while back.

Carter to Columbus for Voracek and a high first round pick (Cotourier)

Richards to LA for Schenn, Simmonds and a 2nd rounder


I’m not comparing any of these guys to Laine but just referencing trades that were fine for the team trading away the best player.

Jetfuel, it was sarcasm, google it
- Ross77

I'm a big fan of sarcasm but I didn't detect any sorry, still don't get it either.. Lol

I didn’t realize you never knew Quebec turned into Colorado, I’ll be more clear next time.
- Ross77

Edit, this is also sarcasm

This is not correct. Forsberg was an unknown when they traded Sundin.
- TheUltimateJet

Forsberg was in the Lindros trade, and dominant in Europe. I’m sure they knew what was coming, even if he blew straight through his glass ceiling

I’m not here advocating for a Laine trade but I don’t like when people assume you can’t win a trade by trading the best player at the time of the deal.
I was reminded of the two trades the flyers made a while back.

Carter to Columbus for Voracek and a high first round pick (Cotourier)

Richards to LA for Schenn, Simmonds and a 2nd rounder


I’m not comparing any of these guys to Laine but just referencing trades that were fine for the team trading away the best player.
- Ross77

Neither of the teams trading away established stars for futures won. The team that wound up with them did.

Your Laine trade wins the next team a cup.

I have been doing some thinking. I think that Paul Maurice has a chance to become the most revolutionary coach in the entire league.

In the beginning, hockey used to have three forwards, two defensemen, one goalie and one rover. I think Maurice needs to bring back the rover position!

I think Wheeler can be that rover when he is on the ice. Wheeler already plays close to 25 minutes an game and as such would have little issues playing the rover position for 25 minutes a game. I think Maurice should pair up Morrissey and Wheeler. This would also allow Roslovic and Laine to get more time playing with higher end players.

Check out my line-up with Wheeler as Rover:
Connor-Scheifele-Ehlers
Harkins-Roslovic-Laine
Copp-Stastny-Vesalainen
Appleton-Lowry-Perreault

Morrisey-Wheeler (Rover)
Samberg-Demelo
Forbort-Pionk

On the power play, Wheeler would play point, with Ehlers taking his position on the half wall. Wheeler has great vision and passing ability and with weapons like Scheifele, Laine and Ehlers at his disposal it would creat a very dynamic power play. And, since we have been talking about the past, Wheeler could become our own modern day version of Phil Housley. Wheeler would have no issues with Maurice telling him to play rover as he has stated that he would run through the wall for him.

Anyways just my opinion on how we can internally improve this team.

I'm pretty sure Henri Nikkanen will play for Finland, he's drafted by the Jets but isn't signed yet.
- JetFuel

Oh? Hope so!

Neither of the teams trading away established stars for futures won. The team that wound up with them did.

Your Laine trade wins the next team a cup.
- Rexypoo

And the earlier Sundin trade that did win the team the cup? No one knows the outcome of most trades at the time it is made.

Boston traded away a young Kessell (who some, not me but some project Laine’s career to be like) and won a cup

Let’s not forget other examples like Gretzky and Lindros who were traded and the teams trading them won the cup after, where the two stars did not.

There are plenty of examples of trades working or not working. I’m just saying I’d wait to see any return before passing judgement

Forsberg was in the Lindros trade, and dominant in Europe. I’m sure they knew what was coming, even if he blew straight through his glass ceiling
- Rexypoo

Very easy to say now, lots of players have dominated Europe and been busts in the NHL

And the earlier Sundin trade that did win the team the cup? No one knows the outcome of most trades at the time it is made.

Boston traded away a young Kessell (who some, not me but some project Laine’s career to be like) and won a cup

Let’s not forget other examples like Gretzky and Lindros who were traded and the teams trading them won the cup after, where the two stars did not.

There are plenty of examples of trades working or not working. I’m just saying I’d wait to see any return before passing judgement
- Ross77

Things have changed obviously from the Sundin days. But some things remain the same. If you're going to trade a star/popular player, you need a potential young star coming back your way. Now we have RFA's and UFA's.

The GM has to stick his neck out - and better be right.

If he's not right, it probably spells the GM's end of his career with that team. Most GM's probably prefer to play it safe.

The Gilmour trade could have made or broke GM Cliff Fletcher's time with the Leafs. Turned out he looked like a genius.

I hope, but don't expect, for Chevy to stick his neck out, but rather, play it safe. Unless he has no alternative but to make a move. Salary cap/player's wish implications.

And the earlier Sundin trade that did win the team the cup? No one knows the outcome of most trades at the time it is made.

Boston traded away a young Kessell (who some, not me but some project Laine’s career to be like) and won a cup

Let’s not forget other examples like Gretzky and Lindros who were traded and the teams trading them won the cup after, where the two stars did not.

There are plenty of examples of trades working or not working. I’m just saying I’d wait to see any return before passing judgement
- Ross77

Boston also got a superior player in return for Kessel (like Forsberg for Sundin), and were in a position to win already (like Quebec/Colorado).
Both are factors the Jets cannot bet on.

Gretzky and Lindros aren’t comparable. One is literally the best to ever do it, and the other likely could have been if he was healthy.
Laine is not 2008 Crosby or Ovechkin. He’s not good tier. He’s very, very good with a ceiling of elite.

I have been doing some thinking. I think that Paul Maurice has a chance to become the most revolutionary coach in the entire league.

In the beginning, hockey used to have three forwards, two defensemen, one goalie and one rover. I think Maurice needs to bring back the rover position!

I think Wheeler can be that rover when he is on the ice. Wheeler already plays close to 25 minutes an game and as such would have little issues playing the rover position for 25 minutes a game. I think Maurice should pair up Morrissey and Wheeler. This would also allow Roslovic and Laine to get more time playing with higher end players.

Check out my line-up with Wheeler as Rover:
Connor-Scheifele-Ehlers
Harkins-Roslovic-Laine
Copp-Stastny-Vesalainen
Appleton-Lowry-Perreault

Morrisey-Wheeler (Rover)
Samberg-Demelo
Forbort-Pionk

On the power play, Wheeler would play point, with Ehlers taking his position on the half wall. Wheeler has great vision and passing ability and with weapons like Scheifele, Laine and Ehlers at his disposal it would creat a very dynamic power play. And, since we have been talking about the past, Wheeler could become our own modern day version of Phil Housley. Wheeler would have no issues with Maurice telling him to play rover as he has stated that he would run through the wall for him.

Anyways just my opinion on how we can internally improve this team.
- TheUltimateJet

Wheeler is struggling to play his natural wing position for 20 minutes a night. You want to put more skating and ice time on the plate of an overmatched 35 year old?

Wheeler is struggling to play his natural wing position for 20 minutes a night. You want to put more skating and ice time on the plate of an overmatched 35 year old?
- Rexypoo

Wheeler should be playing on the 3rd line, some softer match ups and less minutes would do him some good and he could hopefully get some offense going on that line.

Neither of the teams trading away established stars for futures won. The team that wound up with them did.

Your Laine trade wins the next team a cup.
- Rexypoo

The last time the Jets traded their great Finnish star, Teemu it broke the collective hearts of the Jets fans that never recovered and was one of the reasons Winnipeg had their franchise stolen away by Arizona. Don't trade away a 22 year old goal scoring star as the Jets will never get a fair return.

The last time the Jets traded their great Finnish star, Teemu it broke the collective hearts of the Jets fans that never recovered and was one of the reasons Winnipeg had their franchise stolen away by Arizona. Don't trade away a 22 year old goal scoring star as the Jets will never get a fair return.
- islansjet

This is a false narrative!

The Selanne trade was made by the Pheonix group. They told Paddock to make that trade. Bobby Smith at that time had already taken control as president of the franchise. Jets were sold during the 94-95 season and the league had already approved relocation prior to the 95-96 season, the same one where Selanne was traded. The trade was made with Phoenix's future in mind and not Winnipeg's. Phoenix was reluctant to pay Zhamnov, Tkachuk and Selanne big money and thought that since Selanne was the oldest of the three he should be the one traded. Ironically, Zhamnov was also traded for Roenick during the 96 offseason. Jets were a lame duck franchise in 95-96.

Wheeler is struggling to play his natural wing position for 20 minutes a night. You want to put more skating and ice time on the plate of an overmatched 35 year old?
- Rexypoo

Yes, in my opinion a new position would rejuvenate his career. We don't know what we have until we try it.

The last time the Jets traded their great Finnish star, Teemu it broke the collective hearts of the Jets fans that never recovered and was one of the reasons Winnipeg had their franchise stolen away by Arizona. Don't trade away a 22 year old goal scoring star as the Jets will never get a fair return.
- islansjet

The best thing that happened to Selanne(and his legacy as a Jet) was getting traded out of this berg before the local morons ran him out of town with their pitchforks ablaze like they're so wanting to do now with Laine.

Yes, in my opinion a new position would rejuvenate his career. We don't know what we have until we try it.
- TheUltimateJet

Sorry Ultimate, I think my idea of Wheeler to the 3rd line would be a far better move for both Wheeler and the Jets.