Let's not forget that Schiefele couldn't stay on his feet in his first 2 NHL seasons.
- bennythehat

Let’s also not forget that Scheifele taken at #7 was considered a reach. He was ranked something 14-15 that year. This is the only reach that Chevy has done well on. The other one in Roslovic has not done as well.

Let’s also not forget that Scheifele taken at #7 was considered a reach. He was ranked something 14-15 that year. This is the only reach that Chevy has done well on. The other one in Roslovic has not done as well.
- TheUltimateJet

stanley was a reach and a bad one. There were reports Montreal was ready to take Roslovic with the next pick

Let’s also not forget that Scheifele taken at #7 was considered a reach. He was ranked something 14-15 that year. This is the only reach that Chevy has done well on. The other one in Roslovic has not done as well.
- TheUltimateJet

Roslovic is still up in the air. He looks to be a solid middle-six forward with an unexpected emphasis on defence who’s role and usage can best be described with bewildered shrug.

He’s also got the wheels and natural talent to be a lot more. We’ll see how he fares under a different coach/new team in the next couple years

I don’t think that Perfetti is as much of a steal as Kyle Connor. If it were not for poor drafting by the Bruins and some luck, Connor, a player that was ranked in the top 10 in 2015 fell to #17.
- TheUltimateJet

It's a good point. Kyle Connor was a steal at his drafted position. I think most Jets fans were a little more unaware of his capabilities than Perfetti who could have theoretically gone as high as fourth or fifth. That being said there was no way after the top three that Drysdale wasn't going much long after. Lucas Raymond is a damn good hockey player as well although if it were me I would have taken Drysdale 4th. After that, it was a crapshoot.

I've noticed in the first two games that Drysdale and Byram have rarely if ever been paired with the Canadian top line. I don't really think much of Krebs and pretty neutral on McMichael so at the end of the day I don't think Perfetti has much real support out there. BTW...He just might be the hardest-working Canadian out there. I'd love to see him shifted to center with Byfield and Cozens / or Mercer on the wings or even just be on the same line and stay at left. It likely won't happen though

Heinola looks really good. He will make the Jets this year. Definitely not good enough for top pairings yet , but he deserves to be in the lineup.

Let’s also not forget that Scheifele taken at #7 was considered a reach. He was ranked something 14-15 that year. This is the only reach that Chevy has done well on. The other one in Roslovic has not done as well.
- TheUltimateJet

Where was Roslovic expected to go in that draft?

Where was Roslovic expected to go in that draft?
- JetFuel

https://www.google.ca/amp...s-for-rounds-1-3.amp.html

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2503630-2015-nhl-mock-draft-final-projections-for-rounds-1-3.amp.html
- Ross77

Thank you for this Ross, it was mid to late thirties for Roslovic.

Also, Stanley was not really a reach, he went where scouts expected him to go.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2503630-2015-nhl-mock-draft-final-projections-for-rounds-1-3.amp.html
- Ross77

Thanks for the link, so that was Bleacher Reports rankings and they had Roslovic as an early 2nd round selection and the Jets picked him late in the 1st so they didn't go off the board that much really by selecting Roslo where they did, wonder where else the other scouting reports/lists had him ranked, interesting that BR had Harkins at 20th, Spacek and Foley in the first 3 rounds and Cirelli wasn't, also the guy the Jets got in the Mason dump trade was on that list.. Lol

Thank you for this Ross, it was mid to late thirties for Roslovic.

Also, Stanley was not really a reach, he went where scouts expected him to go.
- TheUltimateJet

Ya but scouts are wrong a lot. The very good 2015 draft is proof of that. Funny how most moch drafts all had Harkins going in round one. I remember thinking we stole him in round 2 when that’s probably where he belonged all along, or even round 3.

The 4 defencemen taken after Logan Stanley (Cholowski, Johansen, Peeke, and Hajek) have not exactly ripped up the NHL.

I got a chuckle out of Steve Simmonds article on the Canadian Division. I am sure Rexy didn't.
Quotes:
The Winnipeg Jets, with the best goalie in Canada, Connor Hellebuyck, the deepest collection of forwards and a terrific coach in Paul Maurice, have to make the playoffs in the Canadian division of the NHL, don’t they?
Subject to change at any given moment, here is my list of the 10 best hockey players in Canada (not counting goalies): 1. McDavid; 2. Draisaitl; 3. Matthews; 4. Mark Scheifele; 5. Pettersson; 6. Matthew Tkachuk; 7. Weber; 8. Blake Wheeler; 9. Mitch Marner; 10. Hughes

The 4 defencemen taken after Logan Stanley (Cholowski, Johansen, Peeke, and Hajek) have not exactly ripped up the NHL.

I got a chuckle out of Steve Simmonds article on the Canadian Division. I am sure Rexy didn't.
Quotes:
The Winnipeg Jets, with the best goalie in Canada, Connor Hellebuyck, the deepest collection of forwards and a terrific coach in Paul Maurice, have to make the playoffs in the Canadian division of the NHL, don’t they?
Subject to change at any given moment, here is my list of the 10 best hockey players in Canada (not counting goalies): 1. McDavid; 2. Draisaitl; 3. Matthews; 4. Mark Scheifele; 5. Pettersson; 6. Matthew Tkachuk; 7. Weber; 8. Blake Wheeler; 9. Mitch Marner; 10. Hughes
- bennythehat

Look a little further into the 2nd round in that draft Girard, Lindgren and Hronek are dmen that are doing pretty good in the NHL and three of the guys you listed have at least played some regular season games, Stanley hasn't and unless there's major injuries or the Jets go on a major slide and are looking like they'll miss the playoffs I doubt we see Stanley called up this season either.

Hopefully he's just a late bloomer but it isnt looking good for Logan Stanley ever making it, really he should've been a 3rd round pick at the earliest.

Look a little further into the 2nd round in that draft Girard, Lindgren and Hronek are dmen that are doing pretty good in the NHL and three of the guys you listed have at least played some regular season games, Stanley hasn't and unless there's major injuries or the Jets go on a major slide and are looking like they'll miss the playoffs I doubt we see Stanley called up this season either.

Hopefully he's just a late bloomer but it isnt looking good for Logan Stanley ever making it, really he should've been a 3rd round pick at the earliest.
- JetFuel

I don't expect Stanley to make it either. Teams make mistakes every draft year. You may recall in 2015 that the Bruins screwed up with 3 consecutive 1st round picks -
Zboril, DeBrusk, and Senyshyn ahead of Barzal, Connor, and Chabot. While DeBrusk is a decent forward, he is not as good as the 3 taken after him.

So Montreal has added Perry today along with their other offseason additions of J.Anderson and Edmunson they've gotten tougher, grittier and nastier to play against.
The Leafs have added Simmonds and Bogosian, we already know what the Flames have with Tkachuk, Lucic, Bennett and Rinaldo, the Sens have added some size and physicality to their backend with the addition of Gudbranson, J.Brown and Coburn and Paquette was added to their 4th line.

So many of the Canadian teams added quite a few physical players this offseason, should the Jets look at adding one or two more physical and grittier type players before the season starts?

So Montreal has added Perry today along with their other offseason additions of J.Anderson and Edmunson they've gotten tougher, grittier and nastier to play against.
The Leafs have added Simmonds and Bogosian, we already know what the Flames have with Tkachuk, Lucic, Bennett and Rinaldo, the Sens have added some size and physicality to their backend with the addition of Gudbranson, J.Brown and Coburn and Paquette was added to their 4th line.

So many of the Canadian teams added quite a few physical players this offseason, should the Jets look at adding one or two more physical and grittier type players before the season starts?
- JetFuel

Well according to rexy al those teams made mistakes doing that so we must be golden now

The results paint Maroon as a high end top 6 forward. He drives play, and defends very well.
- Rexypoo

Who you talking about - Brayden Point or Kucherov.?Certainly not Pat Maroon.

4th line player who crashes the net well, valuable in playoffs.

Roslovic is still up in the air. He looks to be a solid middle-six forward with an unexpected emphasis on defence who’s role and usage can best be described with bewildered shrug.

He’s also got the wheels and natural talent to be a lot more. We’ll see how he fares under a different coach/new team in the next couple years
- Rexypoo

Very much agree with this.

So Montreal has added Perry today along with their other offseason additions of J.Anderson and Edmunson they've gotten tougher, grittier and nastier to play against.
The Leafs have added Simmonds and Bogosian, we already know what the Flames have with Tkachuk, Lucic, Bennett and Rinaldo, the Sens have added some size and physicality to their backend with the addition of Gudbranson, J.Brown and Coburn and Paquette was added to their 4th line.

So many of the Canadian teams added quite a few physical players this offseason, should the Jets look at adding one or two more physical and grittier type players before the season starts?
- JetFuel

Sure, Who do you think the Jets should bench,? Harkins, Appleton, or Roslovic. One of them is probably press box bound for Thompson why not add another.

Anthony Travalgia: Where will the Jets play home to start 2021?
Will the Jets be able to start the season in Winnipeg when hockey begins on Jan. 13?
- Anthony.Travalgia

Degenerate Gamblers Alert* Slovakia is paying out at 1.8 vs the depleted Germans. Vs. Canada Slovakia lost 3-1, Germans lost 16-2
Vs. Swiss the Slovaks won, the German last match vs the swiss saw a 4-1 loss (albeit 1 year ago)

The Germans can't catch a break, and should be a +4 going into this match. Take Slovakia and make some money ladies/gents

If Rexy disagrees with this pick, you know its a winner!

Sure, Who do you think the Jets should bench,? Harkins, Appleton, or Roslovic. One of them is probably press box bound for Thompson why not add another.
- BWJumper

I was just posing the question for discussion, wasn't implying that they should or shouldn't.

Personally I'd make those three the 3rd line and would consider signing a so called tough guy that can be on the taxi squad and if necessary slot him in on the 4th line if the team is getting pushed around or if needed against heavier teams. As it stands I do think one of those guys will be sitting or we see the two bottom lines configured in a less then optimal way, if Roslo and/or Laine isn't traded it'll likely be very similar to last season, Copp-Lowry-Roslovic for the 3rd line and a 4th line of Harkins or MP85-Thompson -Appleton or possibly Appleton sits and MP85 and Harkins will be Thompson's wingers so in the end we'll see one offensive player with two grinders on one line and two offensive players with one grinder on the other line, they'll get better results then last year as the 4th line just has better overall players then it did for most of last season but it's still less then optimal for both lines in my opinion.

Hope I'm wrong as this bottom 6 needs to contribute on the scoresheet more but I think this is what Maurice will do cause it's what he usually does though early last season he didn't but eventually he went back to the same well as he normally does.

So Montreal has added Perry today along with their other offseason additions of J.Anderson and Edmunson they've gotten tougher, grittier and nastier to play against.
The Leafs have added Simmonds and Bogosian, we already know what the Flames have with Tkachuk, Lucic, Bennett and Rinaldo, the Sens have added some size and physicality to their backend with the addition of Gudbranson, J.Brown and Coburn and Paquette was added to their 4th line.

So many of the Canadian teams added quite a few physical players this offseason, should the Jets look at adding one or two more physical and grittier type players before the season starts?
- JetFuel

I know what you mean, but the Jets don't need to add bad hockey players at the end of their careers like those said teams. I watched Simmons play for my Devs plenty last year, and he was an absolute wuss. A shell of the player he used to be. Bogo/Gudbranson/Coburn are all guys that likely won't play, and if they do, they will be under 10 minutes a night of unimpressive hockey. Jets have Sbisa and Forbort on the back end to bring size and grit. If Lowry can play his role, he could easily be a bigger threat than any of those guys. He just needs to realize he is not a skilled player, but a physical threat.

The 4 defencemen taken after Logan Stanley (Cholowski, Johansen, Peeke, and Hajek) have not exactly ripped up the NHL.

I got a chuckle out of Steve Simmonds article on the Canadian Division. I am sure Rexy didn't.
Quotes:
The Winnipeg Jets, with the best goalie in Canada, Connor Hellebuyck, the deepest collection of forwards and a terrific coach in Paul Maurice, have to make the playoffs in the Canadian division of the NHL, don’t they?
Subject to change at any given moment, here is my list of the 10 best hockey players in Canada (not counting goalies): 1. McDavid; 2. Draisaitl; 3. Matthews; 4. Mark Scheifele; 5. Pettersson; 6. Matthew Tkachuk; 7. Weber; 8. Blake Wheeler; 9. Mitch Marner; 10. Hughes
- bennythehat

The common person actually reads Steve Simmons? Usually you just see him getting absolutely dunked on by other writers for talking out of his ass on twitter

So Montreal has added Perry today along with their other offseason additions of J.Anderson and Edmunson they've gotten tougher, grittier and nastier to play against.
The Leafs have added Simmonds and Bogosian, we already know what the Flames have with Tkachuk, Lucic, Bennett and Rinaldo, the Sens have added some size and physicality to their backend with the addition of Gudbranson, J.Brown and Coburn and Paquette was added to their 4th line.

So many of the Canadian teams added quite a few physical players this offseason, should the Jets look at adding one or two more physical and grittier type players before the season starts?
- JetFuel

Ottawa spent like 30 million dollars to add Dadonov (good), Brown (passable), and a bunch of below replacement level hockey players. Some of them are just horrible.

Montreal is worse on paper. Edmundson is one of the worst regular defencemen in the NHL, and Perry seems washed.
Simmonds and Bogosian won’t be playing much.

What’s being described here is the exact thing the Jets shouldn’t do, and the kind of thing that knocked Pittsburgh right out of contention after back to back cups.

I know what you mean, but the Jets don't need to add bad hockey players at the end of their careers like those said teams. I watched Simmons play for my Devs plenty last year, and he was an absolute wuss. A shell of the player he used to be. Bogo/Gudbranson/Coburn are all guys that likely won't play, and if they do, they will be under 10 minutes a night of unimpressive hockey. Jets have Sbisa and Forbort on the back end to bring size and grit. If Lowry can play his role, he could easily be a bigger threat than any of those guys. He just needs to realize he is not a skilled player, but a physical threat.
- bikeguy99

Yeah and idk if it'd be a good move, was just throwing the question out there, like I said maybe adding one guy for the taxi squad for league minimum with some nasty to his game wouldn't be bad, would have him if you need him at least.

Very much agree about Lowry but I think the problem is the coach sees him as something more then he is.

Ottawa spent like 30 million dollars to add Dadonov (good), Brown (passable), and a bunch of below replacement level hockey players. Some of them are just horrible.

Montreal is worse on paper. Edmundson is one of the worst regular defencemen in the NHL, and Perry seems washed.
Simmonds and Bogosian won’t be playing much.

What’s being described here is the exact thing the Jets shouldn’t do, and the kind of thing that knocked Pittsburgh right out of contention after back to back cups.
- Rexypoo

We'll see how these teams do, I was just throwing it out there for discussion, time will tell if any of them make a difference or not.

I don't remember what happened to the Pens after those two cups, they appear to have been self destructing the last couple seasons, was obviously something going with Malkin and Kessell and I'm sure that was part of it, think Sullivan has run his course there too.

Sure, Who do you think the Jets should bench,? Harkins, Appleton, or Roslovic. One of them is probably press box bound for Thompson why not add another.
- BWJumper

I was really hoping that we could have signed Cory Perry. Former 50 goal man and MVP and he’s the same age as Wheeler and Stastny.