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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 5:11 PM ET
I agree, with all the lower end forwards this team has, they should be able to put together a good 4th line. The problem with the forward group is that you have Pearson and Virtanen who should both be 3rd liners playing on the 2nd. If you slot in 2 proper top 6 fwds into those spots, the whole group falls into place.
- NorthNuck

Maybe yes maybe no bro

Line dynamics is what matters. I prescribe to dynamic duos with a well fitting 3rd wheel. Call me a Babcock lol

Constructing a line starts at C imo since that position is so demanding. If the C has a hole in his game the wingers compliment him to make it work. I like to start with speed & skill with 1 being very good on D. If more than 1 are good on D that line is set. Boils down to how they gel as a unit.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 22 @ 5:17 PM ET
3rd or 4th line 3rd wheelers are not expected to be playmakers. Role players yes. He can score enough to suit bottom 6.
He needs to be a glue guy & responsible & keep the puck out of our end to be valuable.

- Nighthawk


I think you still need to see the final product.

The obvious question is what is going on with Ferland? If he plays you get a decent third line player. If he doesn't you get cap room and then it is up to Aquillini?

There is three weeks before the season starts plenty of time to figure things out.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 22 @ 5:18 PM ET
I agree, with all the lower end forwards this team has, they should be able to put together a good 4th line. The problem with the forward group is that you have Pearson and Virtanen who should both be 3rd liners playing on the 2nd. If you slot in 2 proper top 6 fwds into those spots, the whole group falls into place.
- NorthNuck

To find two players better then Pearson to go into the top 6. You'd have the best top 6 in the league. Canucks top 6 is already pretty solid.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 22 @ 5:18 PM ET
Maybe yes maybe no bro

Line dynamics is what matters. I prescribe to dynamic duos with a well fitting 3rd wheel. Call me a Babcock lol

Constructing a line starts at C imo since that position is so demanding. If the C has a hole in his game the wingers compliment him to make it work. I like to start with speed & skill with 1 being very good on D. If more than 1 are good on D that line is set. Boils down to how they gel as a unit.

- Nighthawk

I think if this team wants to compete, it needs to add at least 1 more top 6 forward to bump the other guys down, you can probably get away with Pearson or Virt playing 3rd wheel.

Defense is another story, they need a big trade, a big signing, or a high draft pick for another legit top 4 dman. Schmidt was a step in the right direction but even if 1 or 2 of the young guys steps up, you still need to acquire someone with a higher ceiling imo.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 22 @ 5:19 PM ET
To find two players better then Pearson to go into the top 6. You'd have the best top 6 in the league. Canucks top 6 is already pretty solid.
- manvanfan

Yeah it's definitely an ideal scenario to get 2. I still think you need 1 though. That or a 3rd liner or 2 who can step into the top 6 when needed. Currently there is no one to fill those spots if any of the top 6 get injured.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 22 @ 5:24 PM ET
It's going to be a Sutter kind of year. No Coach is going to have the practice time to properly Coach things into players. With Sutter at least you know when he's in, he knows the job and can probably work his own way through his mistakes.
- Load Management

Whoa Whoa Whoa experience doesn't mean sh!t to #teamwhiner...Just as long as that player makes under 1 mil per
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 22 @ 5:27 PM ET
To find two players better then Pearson to go into the top 6. You'd have the best top 6 in the league. Canucks top 6 is already pretty solid.
- manvanfan

top 16 in the league and climbing.

Miller Petey Boeser Bo...

Once JB rounds that out with a few more look the Fack out babY!!!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 5:29 PM ET
I think you still need to see the final product.

The obvious question is what is going on with Ferland? If he plays you get a decent third line player. If he doesn't you get cap room and then it is up to Aquillini?

There is three weeks before the season starts plenty of time to figure things out.

- VANTEL

Ferland is the wild card but imo he’s done.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 5:31 PM ET
To find two players better then Pearson to go into the top 6. You'd have the best top 6 in the league. Canucks top 6 is already pretty solid.
- manvanfan

Yes they are solid. 3 line depth is key & not necessarily Pearson moving down.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 22 @ 5:32 PM ET
Ferland is the wild card but imo he’s done.
- Nighthawk

There is no bad result. He is either 100 % symptom free or he is LTIR . He is ready for full contact and fighting or its over.
I believe he is done too
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 5:32 PM ET
Yeah it's definitely an ideal scenario to get 2. I still think you need 1 though. That or a 3rd liner or 2 who can step into the top 6 when needed. Currently there is no one to fill those spots if any of the top 6 get injured.
- NorthNuck


Duos...

Miller/Petey
Boeser makes that line a complete threat as the 3rd wheel. Not knocking him jmo

Pearson/Bo
A good pair but not enough without the 3rd wheel to really make it tick. That player needs to be pretty good in all honesty.

Boeser can flip between both lines that says still lacking another top 6 to seize the spot. JV hasn’t proven he’s consistent & shows up every night & shift. Pod will help once here. Lots rides on JV to finally get it if we are to be better & let Pod play with Gaudette.

Pod/Gaudette

Much needed 200’ intensity & finally 3 lines deep with the right 3rd wheel. My pick is Motte unless MacEwen can earn & keep it.
Hoglander has another year to keep developing.

So that said I like to see for balance...

Miller Petey JV
Pearson Bo Boeser
Motte/MacEwen Gaudette Pod

Hoglander groomed for middle 6.
Pod on the PK & PP2
Lind groomed for up & down the lines for energy & agitation.

On D a RHD is definitely needed. Rafferty & Chatfield could be it but a lil too soon.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 5:34 PM ET
There is no bad result. He is either 100 % symptom free or he is LTIR . He is ready for full contact and fighting or its over.
- VANTEL

Say he is ready...

Miller Petey JV
Pearson Bo Boeser
Ferland Gaudette Pod

Versatility in game if blendered

Thoughts?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 22 @ 5:40 PM ET
Say he is ready...

Miller Petey JV
Pearson Bo Boeser
Ferland Gaudette Pod

Versatility in game if blendered

Thoughts?

- Nighthawk

I think Jake will be short lived top 6

I have no trust in Gauds and I think the only one on that third line could be Ferland if he is healthy
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Dec 22 @ 5:49 PM ET
The TDL isn’t now. Pod can sign May 1st.
- Nighthawk


lol that would make him and Tree ineligible for the play-offs this season. The whole point that went over your head.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 22 @ 5:54 PM ET
lol that would make him and Tree ineligible for the play-offs this season. The whole point that went over your head.
- NuckUp

Don't be so mean.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Dec 22 @ 5:56 PM ET
I think Jake will be short lived top 6

I have no trust in Gauds and I think the only one on that third line could be Ferland if he is healthy

- VANTEL


JV training with Myers might make a difference to how Green sees him.

But there will be mad competition from camp for the RW slot on Bo's line.

Do you think Hogs could steal it? Anyone else? I'm not counting on Ferland staying on the roster. LTIR/opt out seems his destination.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Dec 22 @ 5:58 PM ET
Don't be so mean.
- Marwood


lol sh!t disturber... so with 100% politeness and zero respect ....GFY.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Dec 22 @ 6:06 PM ET
Well NHL releasing schedule for Canadian teams. While many parts of Canada are going into Lockdown.

Pretty sure Canadian/North division will have to all start playing out of the Edmonton. Hybrid bubble set up with rotations in and out. Or just allow family in the bubble.

Can't see the other provinces signing off on NHL travel. Saftey and optics being what they are and the stupid states will be in super spreader mode until at least February.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 22 @ 6:09 PM ET
Yeah it's definitely an ideal scenario to get 2. I still think you need 1 though. That or a 3rd liner or 2 who can step into the top 6 when needed. Currently there is no one to fill those spots if any of the top 6 get injured.
- NorthNuck


1 for top 6, 1 for 3rd line 1 for 4th line.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 6:11 PM ET
lol that would make him and Tree ineligible for the play-offs this season. The whole point that went over your head.
- NuckUp

I stand corrected

Podkolzin is currently in the final year of his contract with SKA St. Petersburg in the KHL. That season ends on April 30th, 2021. ... Podkolzin won't be eligible for the Canucks' playoff roster, so him suiting up in a Canucks' uniform may have to wait until the start of the 2021-22 season.Dec 7, 2020

Now as usual your tact is horrible.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 22 @ 6:12 PM ET
Ferland is the wild card but imo he’s done.
- Nighthawk

Ferland has never proven to be more than a decent 3rd liner. Hasn't shown to be a worthy top 6 finisher.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 6:13 PM ET
Same situation as Kaprizov was in but the KHL has to finish or if ends earlier it can still be possible. Long shot lol
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 22 @ 6:14 PM ET
Swiss vs Austria just started
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 22 @ 6:15 PM ET
I think Jake will be short lived top 6

I have no trust in Gauds and I think the only one on that third line could be Ferland if he is healthy

- VANTEL

On his past record yes but lets see if he matured & 100% fit & ready. We’ve yet to see that.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 22 @ 6:15 PM ET
I stand corrected

Podkolzin is currently in the final year of his contract with SKA St. Petersburg in the KHL. That season ends on April 30th, 2021. ... Podkolzin won't be eligible for the Canucks' playoff roster, so him suiting up in a Canucks' uniform may have to wait until the start of the 2021-22 season.Dec 7, 2020

Now as usual your tact is horrible.

- Nighthawk

Where did you get this from?
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