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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Not really that exciting. Joe should win it hands down.
- VANTEL

Maybe Joe could kiss Beagle's cup ring...

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Hoffman is 10th in total points from the 2009 draft as a fifth round draft pick, damn those Senators are good at drafting and developing players. I wonder who their chief amateur scout is?


Edit: his name is Trent Mann......“Trent Mann, the club’s highly-respected chief scout, met with the media in a Zoom call Tuesday, one week ahead of the first round of the National Hockey League draft. With three picks in the first round and another four in the second round on Wednesday, the Senators are confident they’ll be improved in the end.”

- LeftCoaster


I’ve said this before but you are wrong about Ottawa’s ability at development. Yes, they do draft well but their franchise is a shitshow that limits their ability to develop their players properly.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 28 @ 1:16 PM ET
Montreal is a lot deeper than Vancouver and yes they are better than Canucks, write that down in your book.
- Reubenkincade

I don’t know about deeper but they play better defensively, or at least have the potential to and their goaltending is better.

Drouin, Kotkaniemi, Tatar, Danault, Gallagher, Josh Anderson, Suzuki, Armia don’t exactly strike fear into the opposition I’m guessing.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 1:16 PM ET
Maybe Joe could kiss Beagle's cup ring...


- LordHumungous


And Beagles paycheck


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
I don’t know about deeper but they play better defensively, or at least have the potential to and their goaltending is better.

Drouin, Kotkaniemi, Tatar, Danault, Gallagher, Josh Anderson, Suzuki, Armia don’t exactly strike fear into the opposition I’m guessing
.

- LeftCoaster



LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 28 @ 1:18 PM ET
I’ve said this before but you are wrong about Ottawa’s ability at development. Yes, they do draft well but their franchise is a shitshow that limits their ability to develop their players properly.
- bloatedmosquito

I disagree, and Mario is better than Gretzky too
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
And Beagles paycheck

- VANTEL


(frank)ing JB somebody needs to lock him in a closet on July 1st and not let him out until a month later.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 1:20 PM ET
(frank)ing JB somebody needs to lock him in a closet on July 1st and not let him out until a month later.
- bloatedmosquito


They did that this year and it's funny but people are still b1tching but now they want him to spend.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 28 @ 1:23 PM ET
(frank)ing JB somebody needs to lock him in a closet on July 1st and not let him out until a month later.
- bloatedmosquito

Luckily he had no money to spend this year or I’m 100% certain he would’ve re-signed Markstrom, Toffoli and Tanev to long term deals. Which would’ve created more problems down the road.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 28 @ 1:23 PM ET
I disagree, and Mario is better than Gretzky too
- LeftCoaster


pure fantasy

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 28 @ 1:25 PM ET
Lots of loopholes in the CBA for intelligent management teams to exploit. I remember when Benning and Linden first took over the team the NHL had to call them and explain how the CBA works
- LeftCoaster


And here we are, seven years later.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
They did that this year and it's funny but people are still b1tching but now they want him to spend.
- VANTEL


I haven’t been around in a while but who’s asking for JB to spend more? He’s wasted so much cap space already.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
Luckily he had no money to spend this year or I’m 100% certain he would’ve re-signed Markstrom, Toffoli and Tanev to long term deals. Which would’ve created more problems down the road.
- LeftCoaster

This. Finally, his horrendous free agent signings prevented him from more horrendous free agent signings.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
Luckily he had no money to spend this year or I’m 100% certain he would’ve re-signed Markstrom, Toffoli and Tanev to long term deals.
- LeftCoaster


That is bull because he spent the same amount of money on Scmidt and Virtanen as he could have spent on Toffoli and Tanev.

They did not lock in on long term contracts this year . They did not sign anything over two years which is what you should do in free agency.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
I don’t know about deeper but they play better defensively, or at least have the potential to and their goaltending is better.

Drouin, Kotkaniemi, Tatar, Danault, Gallagher, Josh Anderson, Suzuki, Armia don’t exactly strike fear into the opposition I’m guessing.

- LeftCoaster


That lineup is still a pretty solid group when you add Toffoli. 3 good lines. Jmo, they will be top 3 in division.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
Luckily he had no money to spend this year or I’m 100% certain he would’ve re-signed Markstrom, Toffoli and Tanev to long term deals. Which would’ve created more problems down the road.
- LeftCoaster


I wonder if FA put the breaks on or if it was self-impossed?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 28 @ 1:29 PM ET
pure fantasy
- bloatedmosquito

Over their past history they’ve drafted and developed some very serviceable NHL players from deep in the draft. The proof is there for looking! Look at Erik Karlsson, Thomas Chabot, Zinbanejad, Ceci, Lazar, Mark Stone, Dzingel, Pageau, the list goes on and on. They don’t have to be NHL stars, but rather play NHL games.

https://www.hockeydb.com/...aft/teams/dr00007328.html
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
I wonder if FA put the breaks on or if it was self-impossed?
- bloatedmosquito

I think Francesco took Jim's cheque book away.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
That lineup is still a pretty solid group when you add Toffoli. 3 good lines. Jmo, they will be top 3 in division.
- Reubenkincade

Their strength is in the style of play more so than their talent level. They had a very good series against the Flyers. They’ll definitely be competitive.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 1:33 PM ET
I wonder if FA put the breaks on or if it was self-impossed?
- bloatedmosquito

Could also be that JB did not want to commit long term to any of those players. We will never know.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 28 @ 1:38 PM ET
I disagree, and Mario is better than Gretzky too
- LeftCoaster

But yet both couldn't pack Orr's lunch on their best days...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 28 @ 1:39 PM ET
And Beagles paycheck

- VANTEL

Pretty minor in the grand scheme...
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 28 @ 1:40 PM ET
Their strength is in the style of play more so than their talent level. They had a very good series against the Flyers. They’ll definitely be competitive.
- LeftCoaster


For sure, but having players that fit that style is a big help. They are pretty solid from goaltending out.
I am not a Habs fan, but will be cheering for them whenever they play the Leafs.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 28 @ 1:40 PM ET
Over their past history they’ve drafted and developed some very serviceable NHL players from deep in the draft. The proof is there for looking! Look at Erik Karlsson, Thomas Chabot, Zinbanejad, Ceci, Lazar, Mark Stone, Dzingel, Pageau, the list goes on and on. They don’t have to be NHL stars, but rather play NHL games.

https://www.hockeydb.com/...aft/teams/dr00007328.html

- LeftCoaster


Again, they draft really well but I believe great development creates more than just skills and IQ, it cultivates player pride in the franchise that drafts them. It propagates a team first attitude and the desire within the player to do what they can to ensure team success whether at the AHL or NHL level.

I’m not sure if a team first culture exists within that franchise.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 1:40 PM ET
Pretty minor in the grand scheme...
- LordHumungous


I love when people think a team is hooped because of a 3 million dollar player.
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