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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 3:07 PM ET
The Pods and Hogs thing has been funny to read on here however. The 'top 6' camp and the 'middle 6' camp and the 'bottom 6 camp' and the 'AHL camp lol

To say the least it will be interesting to see where they end up when all is said and done.

- LordHumungous

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 28 @ 3:08 PM ET
Thanks Carol.

Podkolzin passed the puck to whatever D was on the blue line before guy pulled his best Edler and went straight for the shin pads to which Czech's then scored their 2nd goal of the game shortly after.

I can see the Loui like start happening for Podkolzin already in Van.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 28 @ 3:10 PM ET
For me personally, I'm not expecting dominance. Just more presence on the ice. It's his 3rd tourney, he's 19, he has a leadership role on a top tier team. He's been invisible so far aside from drawing 1 penalty.
- Load Management

There have been plays.

The fact that he is probably the best player on the team kind of says it's a weak Russian roster.

His Centre has 1 point in 11 KHL games this year. That's worse than him and most think he's not doing very well.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
I think Hoglander is still wait and see.

I don't have any doubts about Pod and still think he will immediately move onto Bo's line within two weeks.

The Russian team does not look sharp at all but they do have a few NHL players.

- VANTEL


There's also Jayce Hawryluk, who's going to get a good look.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 3:19 PM ET
There's also Jayce Hawryluk, who's going to get a good look.
- VanHockeyGuy


Yup .

I am hoping they both crack the roster . Will know in 3 weeks . Both second round draft picks.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 28 @ 3:22 PM ET

- VANTEL

lol
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 28 @ 3:23 PM ET
I never knew JB was shopping JV?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...w-holtby-demko-start-net/
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Dec 28 @ 3:33 PM ET
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/8xp94b/ottawa-senators-players-caught-talking-poop-about-their-team-in-uber-video

Key players caught talking smack about the team's coaching staff, systems, special teams, and practice structure doesn’t portray a franchise that has an exceptional development system worthy of anyone’s attention (at least at the NHL level).

I would say the Canucks also do a fine job of turning late picks into NHL players but I wouldn’t celebrate it too much because of other major concerns about the franchise.

- bloatedmosquito

Please enlighten, which late picks have the Canucks developed into NHL players.
Serious question.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 28 @ 3:37 PM ET
Please enlighten, which late picks have the Canucks developed into NHL players.
Serious question.

- K-man25


Kevin Bieksa
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 3:43 PM ET
Please enlighten, which late picks have the Canucks developed into NHL players.
Serious question.

- K-man25


Olympian Frank Corrado. In fact we developed him so good he got scooped up.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Dec 28 @ 3:44 PM ET
Kevin Bieksa
- VanHockeyGuy

not sure why you didn’t include Andrea Boudriaue as well. My bad I thought there was some actual bite to this statement.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Dec 28 @ 3:58 PM ET
Is it me or did Dorian waste his money and cap space on guys who had little impact on their previous teams?
Thanks Carol, always appreciate your insight but not the least bit worried. It’s a young man’s game and this year will show that even more so with the short time to get game ready.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Dec 28 @ 4:07 PM ET
Please enlighten, which late picks have the Canucks developed into NHL players.
Serious question.

- K-man25

Not a late draft pick but there was this undrafted guy who the Canucks signed. They developed him pretty good and got some pretty good years out of him. They developed him so well that another team overpaid him for a deal going into the backside of his career.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Dec 28 @ 4:07 PM ET
There have been plays.

The fact that he is probably the best player on the team kind of says it's a weak Russian roster.

His Centre has 1 point in 11 KHL games this year. That's worse than him and most think he's not doing very well.

- manvanfan


I don't think he's been the best player, weak roster or not. He needs to be a lot better given his role.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 28 @ 4:14 PM ET

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CoolerHeads
Joined: 07.04.2015

Dec 28 @ 4:29 PM ET
I don’t know if I have ever seen a Russian team give 100% during the qualifying round. Not sure it will be enough but they will crank the effort level up during the elimination round.

Podz is just feeding the team whiner narrative so that he can snatch their joy from them when the games matter 😂😉#likestealingcandyfromababy
Nucknab23
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 01.13.2016

Dec 28 @ 4:32 PM ET
Can someone please give me an honest take on Chatfield? I don't want to be a jerk about him but I don't see anything real he's got the feel of a career minor leaguer. He's had a few call ups and no game action seems odd to me. From what I have read he's like a Stecher lite, I think there are better skill options in Rathbone, Rafferty(who I am not sure is ready yet)Sautner and even Brisbois.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 28 @ 4:37 PM ET
Please enlighten, which late picks have the Canucks developed into NHL players.
Serious question.

- K-man25


Gaudette, Adam Gaudette, Adam, Gaudz, and the wife beater guy.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 4:38 PM ET
Can someone please give me an honest take on Chatfield? I don't want to be a jerk about him but I don't see anything real he's got the feel of a career minor leaguer. He's had a few call ups and no game action seems odd to me. From what I have read he's like a Stecher lite, I think there are better skill options in Rathbone, Rafferty(who I am not sure is ready yet)Sautner and even Brisbois.
- Nucknab23


I have never read that he is Stecher lite but I would compare him to Stecher .
I seen him play quite a bit last year and he has good and bad. He has a muffin shot like Stech. He is a smart player like Stech and he is much faster than Stech. Their puck battle is pretty similar. I can see why Benning likes him but he is a #6 guy like Stech.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 28 @ 5:19 PM ET
In a vacuum yes, but when you add it to the list of questionable signing it adds up.

Having a $12M+ fourth line isn’t smart management in my opinion.

- bloatedmosquito

Went much further than 40m in 4 F’s...
Further than 12.5m C...
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 28 @ 5:31 PM ET
I guess there were no scores driven up today?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 28 @ 5:46 PM ET
Thanks Carol.

Gotta admit with all of the hype going into the WJC, and me not seeing too much of his game to this point, Podkolzin has been a disappointment. I keep waiting for him to find another gear and elevate his game. Take over a period or 2. He seems pretty passive so far.

- Load Management

My take is Russia is overrated & at C are not very good. Overall the WJC’s hasn’t been impressive. Chalk it up to rust mostly.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 28 @ 5:53 PM ET
This. It’s more than likely that most of the prospects that are discussed on here will fall victim to the numbers game.
- bloatedmosquito

Happens to many players league wide. Usually opportunity doesn’t arise nor teams take a chance. Too many aging vets are signed with the thinking being they are glue role players. Bottom feeders give prospects more chances or teams not deep the same. Comes down to we’ve too many vets in the way who don’t produce. If they cannot be PK specialists & make us top 10 then move on. Next season is when I expect real changes in the bottom 6 or sooner if kids get to play this year & shiw they are ready. Going to happen on D one way or another if we hold tight on UFA’s.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 28 @ 5:56 PM ET
Why was he expected to dominate?

This is just my opinion but I said before the tournament he is strong on the puck , wins battles on the boards, can make good passes and will probably score 5-8 goals in a NHL season.

I have never felt he would dominate. I think he is good in his own end , will play mostly in the opposite end of the ice.

He is very much like Loui who Travis slotted in with Bo and Pearson more than anyone last year. Loui had 6 goals in 49 games last year and 4 of them were in the empty net. It was a very effective line.

It is not Podkolzin's style to dominate, but he is very effective at getting you the puck.

- VANTEL

Hard for a winger to if D don’t move the puck well & C’s are invisible. Like I said Russia is overrated & is more the problem.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 28 @ 5:58 PM ET
You can thank Twitter Canucks and the media for that. People in here pump Pod & Hogs tires non stop. At the end of the day they're still unproven NHL prospects.
- VanHockeyGuy

We won’t know what we have in them til they have talent to play with. Not saying they will dominate but not held back is more like it.
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