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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 28 @ 9:05 PM ET
Do you watch KHL hockey?
I did & gave it up. It’s boring perimeter non intense hockey. It’s not a breeding ground for stars. Sooner prospects can leave the better they can develop to a much higher pace & difficulty level.

- Nighthawk

I do
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 28 @ 9:09 PM ET
Nice info thx.
As for 2nd best league in the world isn’t saying much imo. It’s a huge drop to that level. Linden Vey is a star say no more.

- Nighthawk

AHL has caught up for sure. It's not far behind anymore. SHL translation rate is probably a little higher than AHL still. After those leagues you have a pretty decent drop off. Czech league has a lot less skill but is much more closer style of game to the NHL.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Dec 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
I really don't know who people think is going to play on Bo's right side? Loui Sven Jake (who can't stay on any line more than 3 games in a row) Roussel Gauds Sutter ?

Even when they had Toffoli, Brock and Toffoli got moved to to third line duties for a game or two.

- VANTEL



This season? Won't be Podz. So it leaves JV, Hogz, Sven, ZacMac, Lind, Sutter, Motte, Baily, and LE all vying for Green's approval in camp. Get ready for the taxi squad musical chairs on Bo's right side all season.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 28 @ 9:18 PM ET
This season? Won't be Podz. So it leaves JV, Hogz, Sven, ZacMac, Lind, Sutter, Motte, Baily, and LE all vying for Green's approval in camp. Get ready for the taxi squad musical chairs on Bo's right side all season.
- NuckUp

I vote ZacMac to start. Brings size, likes to play down low in the other teams end, best way to defend.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 9:21 PM ET
I vote ZacMac to start. Brings size, likes to play down low in the other teams end, best way to defend.
- manvanfan


Interesting .I diid not go down that road but it is worth a look.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 28 @ 9:24 PM ET
lol you dog and bark about JV and his failings constantly but hey must be all imaginary.
- NuckUp

Incorrect

I simply state he has the opportunity since day 1 & never enough competition to change that. He has years to earn & keep top 6 but hasn’t. He has another chance this year. If we were deeper RW he’d find out he cannot carry on as he does.

So what about not getting i am clearly stating he has had a silver spoon ride & doesn’t know how to use it. He’s a dog who doesn’t get endless leash. If he doesn’t nail down top 6 on merit somebody else will one day & that day gets closer all the time. He just dodged a bullet when TT not tesigned.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Dec 28 @ 9:25 PM ET
I vote ZacMac to start. Brings size, likes to play down low in the other teams end, best way to defend.
- manvanfan

What about Motte? Only one that can think and skate at a high enough level from that bunch. Maybe he can pull a Burrows.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 28 @ 9:25 PM ET
So don't draft Russians unless they come over right away? LOL don't count these young guys out they'll come over to the Canucks next season and be on the roster. Book it.
- NuckUp

One word for you...insufferable
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 28 @ 9:27 PM ET
Boeser had the 4th best PPG in college over the past 15 years.

I've been looking at past u19 seasons in different leagues over the past week. It's just lists of who's who in the NHL right now 90% of it.

A lot that have similar seasons have similar NHL careers too. Purely speaking from a points view
Eichel #1 class of his own. 1.78 NCAA .95 NHL
Jaden Schwarts 1.57 NCAA .70 NHL
Clayton Keller 1.45 NCAA .67 NHL
Brock Boeser 1.43 NCAA .82 NHL
J Toews 1.35 NCAA .86 NHL
Dylan Larkin 1.34 NCAA .68
Phil Kessel 1.31 NCAA .81 NHL

Pretty close in numbers for the top group of players.

Next group includes players like JVR, Zucker and some new kids like Newhook, Zegras, Colin White, Adam Fox, Tyson Jost

- manvanfan

More deep info thx again 👍
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 28 @ 9:28 PM ET
AHL has caught up for sure. It's not far behind anymore. SHL translation rate is probably a little higher than AHL still. After those leagues you have a pretty decent drop off. Czech league has a lot less skill but is much more closer style of game to the NHL.
- manvanfan

I always thought the AHL a better proving ground. The SHL develops Euros very well imo.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Dec 28 @ 9:28 PM ET
I vote ZacMac to start. Brings size, likes to play down low in the other teams end, best way to defend.
- manvanfan


Good with that for however long it lasts. Though do see him and JV alternating between 3rd line as odds on best bet starting rotation. Camp will be fun to see who emerges in Green's mind.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 9:29 PM ET
What about Motte? Only one that can think and skate at a high enough level from that bunch. Maybe he can pull a Burrows.
- Shuswap Wap


This is why I say I am staying with Pods

Motte is a good a choice as any.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 28 @ 9:30 PM ET
I vote ZacMac to start. Brings size, likes to play down low in the other teams end, best way to defend.
- manvanfan

I’ll go out on a limb that Motte is ripe for a chance. Spring board off his PO performance. I would like Mac to get it & excel leaving Motte on the 3rd where he is best.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 28 @ 9:31 PM ET
What about Motte? Only one that can think and skate at a high enough level from that bunch. Maybe he can pull a Burrows.
- Shuswap Wap

My secret wish 👍
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 28 @ 9:35 PM ET
This is why I say I am staying with Pods

Motte is a good a choice as any.

- VANTEL


Podz wont be here.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 9:37 PM ET
Podz wont be here.

- boonerbuck


I know . I mean when he arrives he will play with Bo.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 28 @ 9:39 PM ET
I know . I mean when he arrives he will play with Bo.
- VANTEL

Up to JV to grow a pair & stop him. 👍
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 28 @ 9:41 PM ET
Interesting .I diid not go down that road but it is worth a look.
- VANTEL

All of the players that could be their bring a different element of the game to the line. For me getting into a track meet with other teams top lines is never a good idea.

Zac Mac probably give's up a bit of speed to JV and Motte, defensively not as good as LE but he's the largest of them all. Might be slower than some but he's probably going to grind it out more than the others to pin the other teams top lines into their own end for longer.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Dec 28 @ 9:41 PM ET
Incorrect

I simply state he has the opportunity since day 1 & never enough competition to change that. He has years to earn & keep top 6 but hasn’t. He has another chance this year. If we were deeper RW he’d find out he cannot carry on as he does.

So what about not getting i am clearly stating he has had a silver spoon ride & doesn’t know how to use it. He’s a dog who doesn’t get endless leash. If he doesn’t nail down top 6 on merit somebody else will one day & that day gets closer all the time. He just dodged a bullet when TT not tesigned.

- Nighthawk


lol you just did it again.... is that insufferable .... don't worry I'm done messing with you. You can keep dogging JV's failings after all JB and Green do too.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 28 @ 9:41 PM ET
He just doesn’t get it. Destined to be a journeyman if he continues.
- Nighthawk

Jake's toolbox


Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Dec 28 @ 9:55 PM ET
Only hype I see is how he was a bad pick. But we won't see Podz until next season. As his team probably won't get knocked out in time to get him here before TDL and out of quarantine for games.


Same conditions for Tree as well. So Canucks are going to play out the young guys in camp and maybe add one vet D. Don't expect any trades this TDL either.

- NuckUp




Later from the same page.




So don't draft Russians unless they come over right away? LOL don't count these young guys out they'll come over to the Canucks next season and be on the roster. Book it.
- NuckUp


What hype?


I'll be happy if he picks up his socks and finishes the tournament strong.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 28 @ 9:56 PM ET
I always thought the AHL a better proving ground. The SHL develops Euros very well imo.
- Nighthawk

The only problem with any model is the path that is taken. The best players are coming from other leagues, not the AHL.

If a player in 18-19-20 year old seasons in euro leagues is very good, most likely they are going straight to the NHL.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 28 @ 9:57 PM ET
Later from the same page.






What hype?


I'll be happy if he picks up his socks and finishes the tournament strong.

- Load Management

All honesty, what do you expect from a 10 oa career wise?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 28 @ 10:03 PM ET
What about Motte? Only one that can think and skate at a high enough level from that bunch. Maybe he can pull a Burrows.
- Shuswap Wap

lol only if Green puts Motte on Pettersson's line for the season which I doubt is happening.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 28 @ 10:07 PM ET
Pod drama
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