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rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 29 @ 4:06 PM ET
Did the city or state help the Cubs as much as they did the Bears? And who paid for Comisky II?

The city paid for the office building? And the video boards? No, they just allowed the Cubs to pay for it.

- mohel

Old man Ricketts came out with a PAC against Obama and that was the end of the city paying anything to help the Cubs. Rham Emanuel, pardon my spelling was furious and called Tom Ricketts to his office to let him know.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Dec 29 @ 4:08 PM ET
I don't remember if it was you or someone else, but I wouldn't be surprised if Carpenter was bumped to the taxi squad either, in favor of Hagel.
- Chunk

At the rate Hawk forwards are going down Carpenter may end up playing top 6.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Dec 29 @ 4:08 PM ET
Did the city or state help the Cubs as much as they did the Bears? And who paid for Comisky II?

The city paid for the office building? And the video boards? No, they just allowed the Cubs to pay for it.

- mohel

I don’t care about “the whatabouts” - they all extort the city/state/public to get what they want. The Sox extorted the state with an almost done-deal move to Tampa before Thompson stopped the clock and gave in. Doesn’t make it right - doesn’t mean the Ricketts family should have been able to drink out of the same public trough.

The Cubs paid for them - but got the zoning variances that allowed. I don’t remember if the Cubs paid for the easements over and encroachments into sidewalks or not.

And - if you get almost everything you want - don’t go around publicly calling out city leaders because of what you don’t get.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 29 @ 4:09 PM ET
I don't think he is opting out as it is defined related to COVID (unless I missed something in the press release). This is more along the lines of Lundqvist shutting down because he has an ailment. He's stated in his press release that he is working with doctors to better understand his condition. I don't think he is quitting at all. He's one of the best conditioned guys on the team. If he feels that there is a problem big enough to sit out for an extended period then it's pretty significant.
- Chunk

Dare I say, I'm not saying this is what it is but Leukemia has those symptoms.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Dec 29 @ 4:10 PM ET
Both Clarence ‘Screaming Buffalo’ Swamptown & Tim McCracken are available UFAs.
- scottak

Anyone have Link Gaetzs' number?

rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 29 @ 4:12 PM ET
At the rate Hawk forwards are going down Carpenter may end up playing top 6.
- Rota's Rooter

"Bo knows Hockey"
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 29 @ 4:13 PM ET
Anyone have Link Gaetzs' number?


- Rota's Rooter

Isn't Brandon Bollig still in town?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Dec 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
Well i wasn't the one saying he was going to opt out, i think i was making the argument why he won't opt out since he didn't know what was ailing him? I could be wrong but i think i know what i wrote
- BetweenTheDots


Gotcha. I wasn't following your line of thought. I thought you were upset that he was opting out of playing.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Dec 29 @ 4:18 PM ET
My guess is yes, given the Dach for Tuch trade rumor with Vegas. That rumor popped up in my readings weeks ago. Who's to say that there weren't other proposed deals that were tabled until Strome actually signs a new contract first.
- Theo Fox

There is not a chance the Hawks were gonna trade Dach for Tuch
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 29 @ 4:20 PM ET
There is not a chance the Hawks were gonna trade Dach for Tuch
- GPHawksfan


For sure, it would take more than Dach to land Tuch. More like Dach, DeBrincat plus a 1st round pick.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Dec 29 @ 4:20 PM ET
There is not a chance the Hawks were gonna trade Dach for Tuch
- GPHawksfan

Sorry, typo. Meant to say the Strome for Tuch trade rumor. I'll edit the post.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Dec 29 @ 4:22 PM ET
Gotcha. I wasn't following your line of thought. I thought you were upset that he was opting out of playing.
- Chunk


No that would be the other guy from Cali, unless he's in Vegas now😉
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Dec 29 @ 4:23 PM ET
Isn't Brandon Bollig still in town?
- rpeters01


With a side of Mashinter
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Dec 29 @ 4:25 PM ET
Sorry, typo. Meant to say the Strome for Tuch trade rumor. I'll edit the post.
- Theo Fox

That makes more sense I guess. Tuch is still too expensive for what he provides imo. I do t think the Hawks will weaponize cap space this year either with no revenue coming in. Gonna be hard to trade Kane or Keith too with the whole league hurting. Retaining money on their deals is dumb too
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 29 @ 4:28 PM ET
With a side of Mashinter
- BetweenTheDots

Too bad Ben Eager got his brains beat in I always liked him.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 29 @ 4:41 PM ET
Hysteria has taken over the blog.

Really little has changed in the last week or two. Even with Toews, Dach, and Nylander playing the Blackhawks were projected as 7th or 8th in their division and probably had a power ranking of 28 out of 31. Now we know they play Detroit 8 times for the top odds in the lottery.

Other positives:
- Some younger players get ice time in the NHL (Mitchell, Boqvist, Suter, Kurashev? Hagel?)
- You get to sort out the goaltending situation. Knowing you will not make the playoffs allows Colliton to spread the starts out more.
- When Toews is on LTIR you have a ton of cap space to take on a bad contract or two and acquire an additional 1st round pick or two along with it.
- Since you are not playoff bound, you do not need to double shift Kaner. (If Colliton does he should be fired immediately.)
- You do not need to play Keith 26 minutes.
- You get to see other players on the PK and PP.
- Dach gets to build his lower body strength
- Nylander gets to build his upper body strength.

I truly hope Toews, Dach, Nylander, Shaw, Seabs and deHaan return to full health sometime in 2021.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Dec 29 @ 4:44 PM ET
That makes more sense I guess. Tuch is still too expensive for what he provides imo. I do t think the Hawks will weaponize cap space this year either with no revenue coming in. Gonna be hard to trade Kane or Keith too with the whole league hurting. Retaining money on their deals is dumb too
- GPHawksfan

I wouldn't do the Strome-Tuch deal either unless Krebs is the prospect coming back which is highly unlikely. The caliber of prospect is supposedly the roadblock in the trade.

Even then, not sure if I'd want Tuch's contract. Too long of term and AAV is too high for a power forward with sharp peaks and valleys.

The rumor really didn't have much legs as it was never picked up by a major news source and was one of those "I have a friend who works in the Vegas front office..."
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Dec 29 @ 4:47 PM ET
Hysteria has taken over the blog.

Really little has changed in the last week or two. Even with Toews, Dach, and Nylander playing the Blackhawks were projected as 7th or 8th in their division and probably had a power ranking of 28 out of 31. Now we know they play Detroit 8 times for the top odds in the lottery.

Other positives:
- Some younger players get ice time in the NHL (Mitchell, Boqvist, Suter, Kurashev? Hagel?)
- You get to sort out the goaltending situation. Knowing you will not make the playoffs allows Colliton to spread the starts out more.
- When Toews is on LTIR you have a ton of cap space to take on a bad contract or two and acquire an additional 1st round pick or two along with it.
- Since you are not playoff bound, you do not need to double shift Kaner. (If Colliton does he should be fired immediately.)
- You do not need to play Keith 26 minutes.

- You get to see other players on the PK and PP.
- Dach gets to build his lower body strength
- Nylander gets to build his upper body strength.


I truly hope Toews, Dach, Nylander, Shaw, Seabs and deHaan return to full health sometime in 2021.

- -Doh-

Great summary, Doh. The bolded parts stand out as ones to not under estimate as silver linings.

Particularly for getting different looks on the PP, please stop making Keith a fixture there. At least bump him to PP2 unless he has some crazy contractual obligation that he's always on PP1.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 29 @ 4:47 PM ET
Hysteria has taken over the blog.

Really little has changed in the last week or two. Even with Toews, Dach, and Nylander playing the Blackhawks were projected as 7th or 8th in their division and probably had a power ranking of 28 out of 31. Now we know they play Detroit 8 times for the top odds in the lottery.

Other positives:
- Some younger players get ice time in the NHL (Mitchell, Boqvist, Suter, Kurashev? Hagel?)
- You get to sort out the goaltending situation. Knowing you will not make the playoffs allows Colliton to spread the starts out more.
- When Toews is on LTIR you have a ton of cap space to take on a bad contract or two and acquire an additional 1st round pick or two along with it.
- Since you are not playoff bound, you do not need to double shift Kaner. (If Colliton does he should be fired immediately.)
- You do not need to play Keith 26 minutes.
- You get to see other players on the PK and PP.
- Dach gets to build his lower body strength
- Nylander gets to build his upper body strength.

I truly hope Toews, Dach, Nylander, Shaw, Seabs and deHaan return to full health sometime in 2021.

- -Doh-

Agreed we weren't very good at full strength, forwards who can't control the puck, defense who can't clear the zone, unknown goaltending, now we'll just suck worse.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Dec 29 @ 4:47 PM ET
Nobody is going to trade that for an expensive guy at the later stages of his career. It's a wing and a prayer.
- rpeters01


Oohhhhhh I’m so sorry I didn’t realize you already asked all the GMs in the league what they’d be willing to part with in a Kane trade package. I’d hardly call Kane at his “late stages”. He’s still elite. Late stages sounds to me like a washed up vet in his late 30’s. And as far as him being expensive I mean...aren’t all elite players gonna be expensive? That’s the price you gotta pay.

IMO there would certainly be teams out there interested in putting together a package to acquire Kane. I think we’d probably have to take back an inferior roster player but would also receive a top prospect or pick or perhaps both.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Dec 29 @ 4:48 PM ET
No that would be the other guy from Cali, unless he's in Vegas now😉
- BetweenTheDots


Not yet, waiting for the outcome of the Georgia Senate runoffs.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Dec 29 @ 4:50 PM ET
I wouldn't do the Strome-Tuch deal either unless Krebs is the prospect coming back which is highly unlikely. The caliber of prospect is supposedly the roadblock in the trade.

Even then, not sure if I'd want Tuch's contract. Too long of term and AAV is too high for a power forward with sharp peaks and valleys.

The rumor really didn't have much legs as it was never picked up by a major news source and was one of those "I have a friend who works in the Vegas front office..."

- Theo Fox


I don't think Vegas is parting with Krebs any time soon. Probably been the best player on the ice for the Canadian squad.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Dec 29 @ 4:52 PM ET
Oohhhhhh I’m so sorry I didn’t realize you already asked all the GMs in the league what they’d be willing to part with in a Kane trade package. I’d hardly call Kane at his “late stages”. He’s still elite. And as far as him being expensive I mean...aren’t all elite players gonna be expensive? That’s the price you gotta pay.

IMO there would certainly be teams out there interested in putting together a package to acquire Kane. I think we’d probably have to take back an inferior roster player but would also receive a top prospect or pick or perhaps both.

- SimpleJack

If there's an NHL player who can be Jagr-esque and play into his 40s, it's Kane. And Kane is more likely than not to be excellent at it, performing at a top line level.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
Oohhhhhh I’m so sorry I didn’t realize you already asked all the GMs in the league what they’d be willing to part with in a Kane trade package. I’d hardly call Kane at his “late stages”. He’s still elite. Late stages sounds to me like a washed up vet in his late 30’s. And as far as him being expensive I mean...aren’t all elite players gonna be expensive? That’s the price you gotta pay.

IMO there would certainly be teams out there interested in putting together a package to acquire Kane. I think we’d probably have to take back an inferior roster player but would also receive a top prospect or pick or perhaps both.

- SimpleJack

Just like Saad was worth X and Lehner was worth Y, we'll likely never know but keep dreaming. You clearly said "both" in the previous post.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 29 @ 5:05 PM ET
Oohhhhhh I’m so sorry I didn’t realize you already asked all the GMs in the league what they’d be willing to part with in a Kane trade package. I’d hardly call Kane at his “late stages”. He’s still elite. Late stages sounds to me like a washed up vet in his late 30’s. And as far as him being expensive I mean...aren’t all elite players gonna be expensive? That’s the price you gotta pay.

IMO there would certainly be teams out there interested in putting together a package to acquire Kane. I think we’d probably have to take back an inferior roster player but would also receive a top prospect or pick or perhaps both.

- SimpleJack

Not very elite against Vegas...

Early, middle, later. If I'm the opposing GM I know where I have him.
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