For years the complaint was Stan overlays everyone. Now he's a miser.
- mohel

Ive been consistent in saying the man who owns runs the team approves the contracts, then along came Danny, cmon keep up

Just like Corey should on that snow mobile before the real concussion injury happened.
- wiz1901

I really shouldn't laugh at that

Ive been consistent in saying the man who owns runs the team approves the contracts, then along came Danny, cmon keep up
- BetweenTheDots

Yep, totally consistent.

Now there I make a call... you thinks DuBois opens things up or whoever his wingers are?

Can they afford him?

Taser, you retiring?

(BTW, that stupid Charlie Romeliatis (sp) as much as I think he is a rookie, he asked the question that StanBo didn't answer...that seemed to point to Toews had the condition before the return to the Cup during and after...that it didn't appear AFTER hockey ended...
- wiz1901

Pierre-Luc Dubois’s don’t grow on trees, he will be costly if Columbus decides to move him, it would not hurt for Stan to make that call and check availability and cost.

I don't want rosovoc just because there is untapped top six upside as much as I do not want to "Bickell" in Strome and his still untapped top six ability.

Show more than one season, then you get a longer term of sign for the max years for less (a lot less than the old market) and then we can re-negotiate IF he turns into an offensive monster, scoring wise.
- wiz1901

Bowman & Co. are in the driver's seat with a player like Strome. Untapped Top 6 ability sure/maybe? But right now (IMO) Hockey Ops is standing by their decision that they aren't big fans of Strome's game or skill set. And their opinion isn't going to change just because of the injury to Dach or uncertainties with Toews and Shaw.

Stan can just sit there and tell Strome's agent - "look its a short 56 game season, no revenue coming in and your boy needs to show more with us than he has so far. If he plays well we will qualify him again at the end of the season and negotiate a better deal AND we will leave him unprotected in the Seattle draft and maybe you can hit a home run with them. My offer is final, take it or leave it - but sitting out and not playing hockey this year isn't a suggestion I would make to Dylan."

Bowman & Co. are in the driver's seat with a player like Strome. Untapped Top 6 ability sure/maybe? But right now (IMO) Hockey Ops is standing by their decision that they aren't big fans of Strome's game or skill set. And their opinion isn't going to change just because of the injury to Dach or uncertainties with Toews and Shaw.

Stan can just sit there and tell Strome's agent - "look its a short 56 game season, no revenue coming in and your boy needs to show more with us than he has so far. If he plays well we will qualify him again at the end of the season and negotiate a better deal AND we will leave him unprotected in the Seattle draft and maybe you can hit a home run with them. My offer is final, take it or leave it - but sitting out and not playing hockey this year isn't a suggestion I would make to Dylan."
- RickJ

I think Tyler said he qualifies for arbitration next year, not sure

and I believe Corey wanted more than a year....and the no trade status
- wiz1901

What I want and what my employer wants to give me are different worlds. Corey did what he thought was right. Stan and the organ-I-zation did what they thought was right. Nothing to complain about either way.

I think Tyler said he qualifies for arbitration next year, not sure
- BetweenTheDots

He will be arbitrating with this season's numbers - if he plays.

He will be arbitrating with this season's numbers - if he plays.
- RickJ

True but also with his previous 2 seasons with the Hawks, you may not like his eye appeal but he sure seems to have an ability to get on the scoreboard, that means something in this league. If Cats shot comes back he'll be even better than last year in that department.

For years the complaint was Stan overpays everyone. Now he's a miser.
- mohel

Yeah, so he can be both y’know.

I believe Corey also said he was shocked they didn't even negotiate they just pulled the offer and said we are going in another direction.
- BetweenTheDots

I am fine with this...something they should have done with Seabs too. Love them as Hawks but that's how you run a franchise. This is a business. If you let the nostalgia and loyalty control hockey business decisions you run into trouble.

The Patriots excelled for nearly 2 decades because they knew when to get rid of aging vets.

If the young hawks D show real promise this season. I think you shop Keith at the TDL. Maybe pick up a 2nd rounder and mid level prospect. If its a Seller's market maybe you get a low 1st rounder.

I'm torn on moving Kane because I think in 2-3 years he is still close to his prime. Martin St. Louis like.

This new development with Toews put a wrench in a quick rebuild though. You need another top 6 center if Toews can't figure out the medical issue.

Hope Dach's wrist isn't too bad. Remember when Kruger broke his? Never was the same after...especially at the dot.

True but also with his previous 2 seasons with the Hawks, you may not like his eye appeal but he sure seems to have an ability to get on the scoreboard, that means something in this league. If Cats shot comes back he'll be even better than last year in that department.
- BetweenTheDots

Really has nothing to do with past statistical history or arbitration eligiblity going forward. NHL teams are sitting on a virtually zero income season and don't have much interest in spending if unnecessary. Next season may as well be 50 years from now, they will worry about it then.

Strome is in the unfortunate position of needing a new deal from an employer who isn't too impressed with his performance report, is losing money and is only willing to pay to a $ figure well below the employee's expectations.

Really has nothing to do with past statistical history or arbitration eligiblity going forward. NHL teams are sitting on a virtually zero income season and don't have much interest in spending if unnecessary. Next season may as well be 50 years from now, they will worry about it then.

Strome is in the unfortunate position of needing a new deal from an employer who isn't too impressed with his performance report, is losing money and is only willing to pay to a $ figure well below the employee's expectations.
- RickJ

I do wonder if they are waiting for Barzal contract to come out. Speaking of Barzal what do you think he's worth?
It's a dilemma because he puts up about .75 points per game about the same as MacKinnon just a little more than Strome, but for sure he's dynamic on his skates but he's got a better supporting cast and now with no fans do you low ball him?

And when i say compare him to MacKinnon that's where he was at i believe before Rantanen came along

Really has nothing to do with past statistical history or arbitration eligiblity going forward. NHL teams are sitting on a virtually zero income season and don't have much interest in spending if unnecessary. Next season may as well be 50 years from now, they will worry about it then.

Strome is in the unfortunate position of needing a new deal from an employer who isn't too impressed with his performance report, is losing money and is only willing to pay to a $ figure well below the employee's expectations.
- RickJ

Truth. Some don't like truth....

Truth. Some don't like truth....
- mohel

Well the way you conduct business is very important.

Yeah, so he can be both y’know.
- paulr

You're catching on, Posse Boy. Have you trown around a bunch of cement filled paint cans yet today, Chief? If not, make sure you slug down a wheat germ chaser.

That would depend on what the "+" would be and it would have to be significant. The Hawks need Strome more than they need Roslovic. I'm on board with the Hawks acquiring Roslovic, just not at that price.

I know many here have high expectations for Beaudin, but he would be th
e type of asset the Jets are looking for.
- DarthKane

You do not trade a nicely developing dman, a first round draft choice, as a sacrifice for a forward whom eventually has to fight to stay in your line up. Just take our lumps and enjoy a high lottery pick. Roslovic is not much of an upgrade anyway. A strength we may have in years to come is a deep talented puck moving defense. Do not trade a member just for a common weak second but descent third line forward. I prefer to pay for a ticket or cable and live with the team's performance without Roslovic. Roslovic would not be among our protected for The Expansion Draft. We DO NOT NEED him.

Bowman & Co. are in the driver's seat with a player like Strome. Untapped Top 6 ability sure/maybe? But right now (IMO) Hockey Ops is standing by their decision that they aren't big fans of Strome's game or skill set. And their opinion isn't going to change just because of the injury to Dach or uncertainties with Toews and Shaw.

Stan can just sit there and tell Strome's agent - "look its a short 56 game season, no revenue coming in and your boy needs to show more with us than he has so far. If he plays well we will qualify him again at the end of the season and negotiate a better deal AND we will leave him unprotected in the Seattle draft and maybe you can hit a home run with them. My offer is final, take it or leave it - but sitting out and not playing hockey this year isn't a suggestion I would make to Dylan."
- RickJ

Exactly correct position.

You do not trade a nicely developing dman, a first round draft choice, as a sacrifice for a forward whom eventually has to fight to stay in your line up. Just take our lumps and enjoy a high lottery pick. Roslovic is not much of an upgrade anyway. A strength we may have in years to come is a deep talented puck moving defense. Do not trade a member just for a common weak second but descent third line forward. I prefer to pay for a ticket or cable and live with the team's performance without Roslovic. Roslovic would not be among our protected for The Expansion Draft. We DO NOT NEED him.
- jhawk59

Damn! Easy J...but I agree.

Really has nothing to do with past statistical history or arbitration eligiblity going forward. NHL teams are sitting on a virtually zero income season and don't have much interest in spending if unnecessary. Next season may as well be 50 years from now, they will worry about it then.

Strome is in the unfortunate position of needing a new deal from an employer who isn't too impressed with his performance report, is losing money and is only willing to pay to a $ figure well below the employee's expectations.
- RickJ

Tough luck Strome. Go out and let your play open up your possibilities for a better next contract with whomever that turns out to be

So true - Something the Cubs have been guilty of in the past.
- powerenforcer

Alphonso Soriano...

Been thinking of you the entire World Junior, every time Askarov has over played the puck, not been square on the shooters, and he has pucks being delivered and let in on the reverse glove side under arm.

Podkolzin looks mighty ready. Against a Swedish player in a tie up he faked a balance issue and with a backward uptick kicked him super hard in the balls.

Adam Raska S J S 7th rounder has played extremely fiesty for Czech.

Loved the Czech win over Russian and how after an eighty minute tongues out shift the Czech team was able to breakaway and score the first goal. They were playing a New Jersey Devils old time middle zone trap...so the Russian were unable to mount attack zone pushes...

and the Swedish Goalie available in this next draft will go mighty early two...the Hawks need and extra first rounder early to nab him too.

Ask me about Teply' and Kruti after the games are done.

Slaggert looks excellent on the checking line...lots of contact...
- wiz1901

As for Askarov he has struggle a bit ,still beat the Swedish goalie when the sweed gave up a fat rebound in OT and ended the streak .Askarov is already a big leaguer think he may be trying to do to much early he will save his best for the money round .

Just because everyone else is upset doesn't mean i am, so having it both ways does not apply to me.
- BetweenTheDots

I was making a generalization yes there are exceptions.
Happy New Year!

As for Askarov he has struggle a bit ,still beat the Swedish goalie when the sweed gave up a fat rebound in OT and ended the streak .Askarov is already a big leaguer think he may be trying to do to much early he will save his best for the money round .
- oldduffman

Doesn't a "big leaguer" bring his best all the time? Doesn't "saving his best" suggest he is inconsistent?

LeBrun: Pierre-Luc Dubois is not in Columbus as camp approaches and remains unsigned. And now there are rumblings from a few teams around the league that Dubois may be looking for a change of scenery. Maybe wishful thinking on their part. But stay tuned on this one.
- walleyeb1

Two years, $10M it seems