Yes you are correct in that aspect but with missing so much playing time because of a bad back, teams would hesitate for trading for "damaged goods". Would anyone trade for a guy coming off major injury, without seeing him play, just believing what doctors say
- chuckdahammer

You just made the case for why he is untradeable. You still have UFA’s Grabner, Trevor Lewis, Abdekader, etc., etc., all could be had for approximately $1 mil. That depending on what type of player the team is looking for. Want a PK ‘er who is strong in the corners and can play 4th line center or right wing for a million for one year? Why would you trade for Smith if you can sign Lewis with no salary cap or dollar investment. Unsure about him? Invite him on a PTO.

Again, Smith is untradeable IMO. Hawks are stuck with him for one more season.

Hintz $3.1
DeBrusk $3.68
Foegele $2.15
Olofsson $3.05
Mangiapane $2.45

Just looking at these players i just struggle seeing Strome getting this little all RFA all with worse scoring stats

Hintz $3.1
DeBrusk $3.68
Foegele $2.15
Olofsson $3.05
Mangiapane $2.45

Just looking at these players i just struggle seeing Strome getting this little all RFA all with worse scoring stats
- BetweenTheDots

Know how Stan hands out contracts Strome will get $6 million based on these comparisons.

You just made the case for why he is untradeable. You still have UFA’s Grabner, Trevor Lewis, Abdekader, etc., etc., all could be had for approximately $1 mil. That depending on what type of player the team is looking for. Want a PK ‘er who is strong in the corners and can play 4th line center or right wing for a million for one year? Why would you trade for Smith if you can sign Lewis with no salary cap or dollar investment. Unsure about him? Invite him on a PTO.

Again, Smith is untradeable IMO. Hawks are stuck with him for one more season.
- LAHawk

He’s about as close to untradeable as you can get, then again we all thought that Manning was untradeable.

Know how Stan hands out contracts Strome will get $6 million based on these comparisons.
- DarthKane

Haven't you heard? Stan is now a miser who refuses to pay a living wage.

Know how Stan hands out contracts Strome will get $6 million based on these comparisons.
- DarthKane

Ha ha, sign him for two years at $3M/year, play him with Kane, give him lots of power play time. Let Strome put up big numbers, maybe fans in stands in April to create revenue again, then trade him. Not sure we can get much for him in this climate.

Know how Stan hands out contracts Strome will get $6 million based on these comparisons.
- DarthKane

He's asking $7.

Unfortunately but i sure wouldn't settle on trading Strome away for parts, no way I'd give up a 1st since we might be picking 1st.
- BetweenTheDots

Strome is 23, with 164 games in the Show. AZ had him up at 19 after only 50 games in the AHL - should have been a lot more.

He has proven to have at least 2nd line potential (yes, only potential, not proven).

At his age and development, I don’t think you can trade him for less than a prospect (with equal potential) and a third, or a 1st pick and a third, or something similar. I don’t think you give up a sweetener just to move him.

You just made the case for why he is untradeable. You still have UFA’s Grabner, Trevor Lewis, Abdekader, etc., etc., all could be had for approximately $1 mil. That depending on what type of player the team is looking for. Want a PK ‘er who is strong in the corners and can play 4th line center or right wing for a million for one year? Why would you trade for Smith if you can sign Lewis with no salary cap or dollar investment. Unsure about him? Invite him on a PTO.

Again, Smith is untradeable IMO. Hawks are stuck with him for one more season.
- LAHawk

The only team Smith could be traded to is one needing help to get to the cap floor and there aren't many, if any, of those. The return would be zero anyway, like the Kruger trade.

But, a training camp 'injury' could happen that gets him to LTIR.

Strome is 23, with 164 games in the Show. AZ had him up at 19 after only 50 games in the AHL - should have been a lot more.

He has proven to have at least 2nd line potential (yes, only potential, not proven).

At his age and development, I don’t think you can trade him for less than a prospect (with equal potential) and a third, or a 1st pick and a third, or something similar. I don’t think you give up a sweetener just to move him.
- StLBravesFan

Before they move him for less than fair value in trade, they will let him and his agent sit and watch from the sidelines until the $ numbers work for both sides. Strome really doesn't have many options as an RFA and the Hawks don't see him as a difference maker for this season or in the future.

Before they move him for less than fair value in trade, they will let him and his agent sit and watch from the sidelines until the $ numbers work for both sides. Strome really doesn't have many options as an RFA and the Hawks don't see him as a difference maker for this season or in the future.
- RickJ

I recall Kampf coming up and being slow as (frank), at 22/23 years old. Past year he was a very effective much more fluid 4th line center. If Kampf could improve his skating i have faith Strome will. From what i hear he's working hard in the off seasons to be a better hockey player. I find it hard to believe the Hawks don't believe he will amount to anything otherwise he would of been traded already. Or worse Josh Ho Sang'd

Know how Stan hands out contracts Strome will get $6 million based on these comparisons.
- DarthKane

You forgot the NMC Pal

I recall Kampf coming up and being slow as (frank), at 22/23 years old. Past year he was a very effective much more fluid 4th line center. If Kampf could improve his skating i have faith Strome will. From what i hear he's working hard in the off seasons to be a better hockey player. I find it hard to believe the Hawks don't believe he will amount to anything otherwise he would of been traded already. Or worse Josh Ho Sang'd
- BetweenTheDots

He probably is working hard to improve. That doesn't necessarily influence the Hawks brass or coach into thinking he can become a top line forward on a winning team. (You might want to go back and watch Strome in that Vegas playoff series).

Ultimately its all about the money, what's the asking price and term vs what the Hawks are willing to pay based on their evaluation of the player?

He probably is working hard to improve. That doesn't necessarily influence the Hawks brass or coach into thinking he can become a top line forward on a winning team. (You might want to go back and watch Strome in that Vegas playoff series).

Ultimately its all about the money, what's the asking price and term vs what the Hawks are willing to pay based on their evaluation of the player?
- RickJ

I just watched the whole series and I think you’re wrong. I’m pretty sure Strome didn’t play in that series, or at least I didn’t notice him.

He probably is working hard to improve. That doesn't necessarily influence the Hawks brass or coach into thinking he can become a top line forward on a winning team. (You might want to go back and watch Strome in that Vegas playoff series).

Ultimately its all about the money, what's the asking price and term vs what the Hawks are willing to pay based on their evaluation of the player?
- RickJ

If they were going to pay Kubalik and they used the Vegas series as a comparison then Strome should get paid more. Held his own with inferior line mates, scored the same amount as Kubalik in that series, plus minus even, Kubs -4, FO% about 60% yea he was awful

It will take a lot more than that for Dubois.
- Angotti

The Columbus GM probably is not going to trade Dubois. If he has pressure from ownership due to financial concerns, then he has to either weather the storm or quit.

It may be a cantankerous relationship between players and teams to get paid as much as they used to simply because the covid is going to keep attendance down even if 75% of society gets a vaccination. The covid is not going away soon and I would not take a risk sitting next to strangers or inter- mingle just going to a game. So attendance is not going to return to pre covid level for minimum two years, and maybe never.

This is a scary world we live in and it is only going to get worse as far as terrorism, more covid type scenarios, and the BLM & Patriot Boy people aren't going away. School and crazed shooters in malls, too, is not going away. And in Chicago car jacking is out of control.

Turbulent times means conservative (read cheap)operation of sports teams. Even if people go back to work, some businesses open, the economy picks up....we have a national debt getting worse and politicians cannot stop themselves from pork barrel on bills passed for the people (but not nearly helping people as much as it should). People must stop destroying property and damaging businesses, too, if the economy is to be resiliant.

Now back to Dubois. He is emerging as one of the top centers in the league. Young top players should be paid close to what they have been getting. Because they are always in demand. Some team doesn't want to afford Dubois, other teams would like to pry him loose. Of course teams will be watching their money doled out to the other players not deemed at the top of the class

So Kekalainen (sic. The Columbus GM) has to give Dubois a good contract or just accept that he may not be able to bring Columbus very far in the playoffs. Which might discourage him from having the resources to go far in playoffs. He then might want to quit. But he should never trade a top player and he should cut dollars elsewhere just to keep Dubois. If he trades him he is a fool and basicly admits he cannot manage his assets well. If you were in his GM shoes, you want financial backing from ownership. If I didn' t get that support, I would quit.

You just made the case for why he is untradeable. You still have UFA’s Grabner, Trevor Lewis, Abdekader, etc., etc., all could be had for approximately $1 mil. That depending on what type of player the team is looking for. Want a PK ‘er who is strong in the corners and can play 4th line center or right wing for a million for one year? Why would you trade for Smith if you can sign Lewis with no salary cap or dollar investment. Unsure about him? Invite him on a PTO.

Again, Smith is untradeable IMO. Hawks are stuck with him for one more season.
- LAHawk

The Hawks are stuck with his salary cap hit - they are not stuck with having to play him over playing young players. He can ride around in the taxi squad all season. The Hawks can manage his cap hit this season without having to offload salary from somewhere else. In fact it could be a good thing so Stan doesn't get froggy with available cap space at the TDL.

The Columbus GM probably is not going to trade Dubois. If he has pressure from ownership due to financial concerns, then he has to either weather the storm or quit.

It may be a cantankerous relationship between players and teams to get paid as much as they used to simply because the covid is going to keep attendance down even if 75% of society gets a vaccination. The covid is not going away soon and I would not take a risk sitting next to strangers or inter- mingle just going to a game. So attendance is not going to return to pre covid level for minimum two years, and maybe never.

This is a scary world we live in and it is only going to get worse as far as terrorism, more covid type scenarios, and the BLM & Patriot Boy people aren't going away. School and crazed shooters in malls, too, is not going away. And in Chicago car jacking is out of control.

Turbulent times means conservative (read cheap)operation of sports teams. Even if people go back to work, some businesses open, the economy picks up....we have a national debt getting worse and politicians cannot stop themselves from pork barrel on bills passed for the people (but not nearly helping people as much as it should). People must stop destroying property and damaging businesses, too, if the economy is to be resiliant.

Now back to Dubois. He is emerging as one of the top centers in the league. Young top players should be paid close to what they have been getting. Because they are always in demand. Some team doesn't want to afford Dubois, other teams would like to pry him loose. Of course teams will be watching their money doled out to the other players not deemed at the top of the class

So Kekalainen (sic. The Columbus GM) has to give Dubois a good contract or just accept that he may not be able to bring Columbus very far in the playoffs. Which might discourage him from having the resources to go far in playoffs. He then might want to quit. But he should never trade a top player and he should cut dollars elsewhere just to keep Dubois. If he trades him he is a fool and basicly admits he cannot manage his assets well. If you were in his GM shoes, you want financial backing from ownership. If I didn' t get that support, I would quit.
- jhawk59

You'd quit 1 of 31 soon to be 32 jobs in the world?

If they were going to pay Kubalik and they used the Vegas series as a comparison then Strome should get paid more. Held his own with inferior line mates, scored the same amount as Kubalik in that series, plus minus even, Kubs -4, FO% about 60% yea he was awful
- BetweenTheDots

I get it, you like him as a player and think the Hawks should pay him commensurately with some of the other guys around the league who have contracts.

I don't know what the Strome asking price is, maybe you do. If the employer doesn't appraise the employee's worth similarly, in hockey you get a hold out situation. Thats where Dylan and Stan are at now.

I get it, you like him as a player and think the Hawks should pay him commensurately with some of the other guys around the league who have contracts.

I don't know what the Strome asking price is, maybe you do. If the employer doesn't appraise the employee's worth similarly, in hockey you get a hold out situation. Thats where Dylan and Stan are at now.
- RickJ

Believe it or not I'm not his biggest fan, im a fan of his potential. Big centers just don't grow on trees and as much as I'd love to get a great deal on him, the numbers he puts up are real, they just are.

I get it, you like him as a player and think the Hawks should pay him commensurately with some of the other guys around the league who have contracts.

I don't know what the Strome asking price is, maybe you do. If the employer doesn't appraise the employee's worth similarly, in hockey you get a hold out situation. Thats where Dylan and Stan are at now.
- RickJ

The Hawks have become big meanies. They should pay every player what they ask.

Believe it or not I'm not his biggest fan, im a fan of his potential. Big centers just don't grow on trees and as much as I'd love to get a great deal on him, the numbers he puts up are real, they just are.
- BetweenTheDots

If you are the GM, how much are you willing to pay him and for how long?

What if I said they offered Strome along term deal at 3.1 million?...

His brother on the Rangers had a 18 goal -50 + points 9 signed for 4.5 mil), and our Stromer 12 goals and 38 point year.

The older Christ Tierney got $3.5 million two year deal for 11 goals and 37 points.

What if I said they offered Strome along term deal at 3.1 million?...
- wiz1901

The mercenary should have accepted your generous offer.

Shaw should be on the team if he earns a spot otherwise like Seebs he can sit . I think Shaw will be in the top six if healthy
- oldduffman

Hell, if Shaw is healthy he’s the #1 center.