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jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 2 @ 6:16 PM ET
I know vegas would be dumb to trade krebs. I was just using krebs as example of hawks need to get what they want if they are thinking of trading strome.
- Scott1977


The Blackhawks have much depth so they really should accept only a player they want to keep around (maybe hope not to loose in expansion draft) if we really do complete a trade. Honestly I think Bowman should sign and play Strome. You can sit him out here and there if you want to look at prospects. SHOULD Strome have an impressive scoring season, know that he probably could not be in the same slot the following season (Toews, Dach return) therefore does not accumulate the same TOI and points.

Right now Bowman is probably thinking, I might get more for Strome if he has a good season. I sign him for less than he wants, this spurs him on to a better season? Bowman also realizes projection in each of his long term team strategy/scenarios Strome becomes tail lights. If only Strome suddenly increased his value by adding cycle game to his style of play, then he might cause Bowman or another GM to take him on.

Admittedly I am not a fan of slower skaters; to that point I want to see Barret replace Strome. See what Barret has. I bet a better all around game than Strome. Might be a better skater too (question: in comparing these two players, doubtful Strome improves his skating. But what about Barret? I know Strome worked to improve his skating but even injury free he remains too slow).

Change topic:
I recall asking Wiz if Lundell would be a good draft to replace Saad. Well I noticed his Pp marker tied the game and it looks like Finland came from behind to beat Sweden (and their top netminder) in a bit of an upset

Quiz: quick now, who choose Lundell in round one? Coach Q will be glad to put this young player in the lineup. Believe it! See his scouting report on draftsite.com and you can understand the affinity for this youngster on a Q team which traditionally is reluctant to employ rookies
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jan 2 @ 6:45 PM ET
Trade Toews for him and retain salary
Kane will continue to play at his current pace for at least 6 more years so make him captain. His playing style and commitment to fit I think proves my above comment. He may be the leader in the locker room for the young players

Toews is breaking down so get what you can for him now

- molly2522

Bold should be in red font... We have many posts where we talk about how the core aged more quickly than expected.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 2 @ 7:08 PM ET
Bold should be in red font... We have many posts where we talk about how the core aged more quickly than expected.
- rpeters01


Covid era NHL:

Broken down, weak, injury prone > big long term contract

Of course neither is desirable, but all things considered
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 2 @ 9:23 PM ET
d trade Strome for Tuch if that was still on the table
- oldduffman


Sure, if Vegas includes Krebs.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jan 2 @ 9:34 PM ET
The Blackhawks have much depth so they really should accept only a player they want to keep around (maybe hope not to loose in expansion draft) if we really do complete a trade. Honestly I think Bowman should sign and play Strome. You can sit him out here and there if you want to look at prospects. SHOULD Strome have an impressive scoring season, know that he probably could not be in the same slot the following season (Toews, Dach return) therefore does not accumulate the same TOI and points.

Right now Bowman is probably thinking, I might get more for Strome if he has a good season. I sign him for less than he wants, this spurs him on to a better season? Bowman also realizes projection in each of his long term team strategy/scenarios Strome becomes tail lights. If only Strome suddenly increased his value by adding cycle game to his style of play, then he might cause Bowman or another GM to take him on.

Admittedly I am not a fan of slower skaters; to that point I want to see Barret replace Strome. See what Barret has. I bet a better all around game than Strome. Might be a better skater too (question: in comparing these two players, doubtful Strome improves his skating. But what about Barret? I know Strome worked to improve his skating but even injury free he remains too slow).

Change topic:
I recall asking Wiz if Lundell would be a good draft to replace Saad. Well I noticed his Pp marker tied the game and it looks like Finland came from behind to beat Sweden (and their top netminder) in a bit of an upset

Quiz: quick now, who choose Lundell in round one? Coach Q will be glad to put this young player in the lineup. Believe it! See his scouting report on draftsite.com and you can understand the affinity for this youngster on a Q team which traditionally is reluctant to employ rookies

- jhawk59[/quote
I wouldn’t equate quantity with depth, we may have depth with our young defense, but we certainly don’t have depth at forward, quantity yes, depth not so much. Like you, I also prefer a player with speed, however you can be a good NHL player with average speed, but you must have the right attributes, like compete level, responsible defensively, win board battles, good at face offs, be able to cycle puck, good shot, high hockey IQ, and unfortunately Strome only brings a couple of these traits to the ice. Bottom line, he’s a good player, but not good enough to be a #1 or #2 center on a cup contender, and doesn’t bring what is needed for a 3rd line center, at least not up to now.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 2 @ 10:44 PM ET
[quote=jhawk59]The Blackhawks have much depth so they really should accept only a player they want to keep around (maybe hope not to loose in expansion draft) if we really do complete a trade. Honestly I think Bowman should sign and play Strome. You can sit him out here and there if you want to look at prospects. SHOULD Strome have an impressive scoring season, know that he probably could not be in the same slot the following season (Toews, Dach return) therefore does not accumulate the same TOI and points.

Right now Bowman is probably thinking, I might get more for Strome if he has a good season. I sign him for less than he wants, this spurs him on to a better season? Bowman also realizes projection in each of his long term team strategy/scenarios Strome becomes tail lights. If only Strome suddenly increased his value by adding cycle game to his style of play, then he might cause Bowman or another GM to take him on.

Admittedly I am not a fan of slower skaters; to that point I want to see Barret replace Strome. See what Barret has. I bet a better all around game than Strome. Might be a better skater too (question: in comparing these two players, doubtful Strome improves his skating. But what about Barret? I know Strome worked to improve his skating but even injury free he remains too slow).

Change topic:
I recall asking Wiz if Lundell would be a good draft to replace Saad. Well I noticed his Pp marker tied the game and it looks like Finland came from behind to beat Sweden (and their top netminder) in a bit of an upset

Quiz: quick now, who choose Lundell in round one? Coach Q will be glad to put this young player in the lineup. Believe it! See his scouting report on draftsite.com and you can understand the affinity for this youngster on a Q team which traditionally is reluctant to employ rookies

- Angotti[/quote
I wouldn’t equate quantity with depth, we may have depth with our young defense, but we certainly don’t have depth at forward, quantity yes, depth not so much. Like you, I also prefer a player with speed, however you can be a good NHL player with average speed, but you must have the right attributes, like compete level, responsible defensively, win board battles, good at face offs, be able to cycle puck, good shot, high hockey IQ, and unfortunately Strome only brings a couple of these traits to the ice. Bottom line, he’s a good player, but not good enough to be a #1 or #2 center on a cup contender, and doesn’t bring what is needed for a 3rd line center, at least not up to now.


Your response: which is why if Strome does not bring more attributes, he likely bounces around the league his entire career. Poster Rick addressed my complaint about speed a year or more ago. He said, reference Tavares. Yes speed is not everything. But there are plenty more skill players who can skate comparable to the skill player but is an average or below average skating guys like Tavares.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Jan 3 @ 1:19 AM ET
Your response: which is why if Strome does not bring more attributes, he likely bounces around the league his entire career. Poster Rick addressed my complaint about speed a year or more ago. He said, reference Tavares. Yes speed is not everything. But there are plenty more skill players who can skate comparable to the skill player but is an average or below average skating guys like Tavares.
- jhawk59

From what I see of Strome, he plays smaller than his listed size but makes up for it by playing slow.
Angotti
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jan 3 @ 8:48 AM ET
From what I see of Strome, he plays smaller than his listed size but makes up for it by playing slow.
- rpeters01

You have excellent comprehension skills, the thing is that he somehow puts up points.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jan 3 @ 9:49 AM ET
The Hawks have become big meanies. They should pay every player what they ask.
- mohel


Oh the Irony


HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jan 3 @ 10:10 AM ET
Oh the Irony

- vabeachbear


Danny and Stan went to see a medium over the holidays to channel the spectre of Grandpa Billy. It must’ve worked.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 3 @ 10:17 AM ET
Danny and Stan went to see a medium over the holidays to channel the spectre of Grandpa Billy. It must’ve worked.
- HawkintheD


Big game today, Bears have a chance?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 3 @ 10:59 AM ET
Played a mean bass
- Ogilthorpe2


Meet the new boss(Danny)
Same as the old boss(Billy)
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jan 3 @ 11:24 AM ET
Big game today, Bears have a chance?
- BetweenTheDots

Rodgers is out?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 3 @ 11:26 AM ET
Oh the Irony

- vabeachbear


He went from Spendthrift to Miser in mere moments! From being too loyal to being heartless in seconds!

Mental gymnastics are needed to remain the Board of Doom.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 3 @ 11:33 AM ET
Rodgers is out?
- rpeters01


Hahaha no unfortunately i do not believe he is.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jan 3 @ 12:15 PM ET
He went from Spendthrift to Miser in mere moments! From being too loyal to being heartless in seconds!

Mental gymnastics are needed to remain the Board of Doom.

- mohel

I propose we rename the Board Of Doom to the Pollyanish Posters.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jan 3 @ 12:16 PM ET
Big game today, Bears have a chance?
- BetweenTheDots


Definitely

They’ve been playing very well lately and GB just lost their best Olineman and are gonna have to shuffle around up front.

I see the Bears getting a heavy pass rush all day with plenty of sacks and overall disruption of the passing attack, which is how you beat Rodgers(aka the Packers).
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jan 3 @ 12:53 PM ET
Penguins defenseman Marino signs for six years at $4.4M AAV.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 3 @ 12:56 PM ET
Definitely

They’ve been playing very well lately and GB just lost their best Olineman and are gonna have to shuffle around up front.

I see the Bears getting a heavy pass rush all day with plenty of sacks and overall disruption of the passing attack, which is how you beat Rodgers(aka the Packers).

- SimpleJack


With Pagano as D coordinator i still feel we are going to have to outscore GB. Our only hope is if the Oline can continue to create holes for 32. Once Mustipher replaced Coward the oline had been outstanding. My wish is to see the Bears run over GB nickel defense like the 49ers did last year.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 3 @ 1:07 PM ET
Penguins defenseman Marino signs for six years at $4.4M AAV.
- Angotti


What, that can't be true, don't the Penguins have all the leverage?
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jan 3 @ 1:19 PM ET
What, that can't be true, don't the Penguins have all the leverage?
- BetweenTheDots

This board may be a little off on Strome’s value, woof!
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jan 3 @ 1:47 PM ET
Penguins defenseman Marino signs for six years at $4.4M AAV.
- Angotti

I know almost nothing about him. What are the comparables between him, Strome and Dubois?
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jan 3 @ 2:09 PM ET
I know almost nothing about him. What are the comparables between him, Strome and Dubois?
- tvetter

I don’t know much about him to be honest, Dubois and Strome are centers, and Marino is a defenseman that has played one year in NHL after three years at Harvard. He was drafted in 2015 in the 6th round. He had 26 points in his rookie season and was a +17. Maybe others here know more about him, I was just surprised when I saw the signing. So basically no comparison, I just thought the AAV was high for this guy that I never heard of before.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 3 @ 2:13 PM ET
I know almost nothing about him. What are the comparables between him, Strome and Dubois?
- tvetter


When i see this, it's hard not to imagine Ethan Bear is pissed off right now, damn
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jan 3 @ 2:57 PM ET
This board may be a little off on Strome’s value, woof!
- Angotti

Top 4 defensemen hit $4m quickly. I'm just stating a point. I don't know how good Marino is but I would compare a $4m Dman with a $3m Forward quite easily. Also, it's clear Pittsburgh wanted him locked up 6 years. Not only is Stan I'm sure not wanting to go there with Strome but the player giving up quite a bit of future upside.
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