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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 4 @ 3:49 PM ET
He is not like Hansen except for the skating. Hansen was all effort but had hands of stone (got somewhat better at the end). Great role player.

Jake is big and has a great shot but lacks effort.

Totally different players.

- CoolerHeads


I was going to say the same thing. Totally different styles and efforts
Sea21dog
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nesook Bay
Joined: 12.30.2020

Jan 4 @ 3:50 PM ET
Thomas Drance
@ThomasDrance
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3m
The tricks and hand-eye are what excites most fans about Nils Hoglander, but watching this training camp session it’s really the lateral speed that gives him a shot at making noise at this camp.

I don’t read much into what I see in drills on Day 1, but his edges are incredible.

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I can't imagine a prospect coming into camp and playing second line

- VANTEL


Are there actual media personal watching the training camp live or are they watching video clips and making assumptions like the wanna be GM's and super scouts.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jan 4 @ 3:51 PM ET
I bet Gillis would hire a feelings coach.
- VANTEL

Yeah... They're called sports psychologists and most elite athletes and teams (across most sports) use them. 👍
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 4 @ 3:52 PM ET
Are there actual media personal watching the training camp live or are they watching video clips and making assumptions like the wanna be GM's and super scouts.
- Sea21dog



Live
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Jan 4 @ 3:52 PM ET
Thomas Drance
@ThomasDrance
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3m
The tricks and hand-eye are what excites most fans about Nils Hoglander, but watching this training camp session it’s really the lateral speed that gives him a shot at making noise at this camp.

I don’t read much into what I see in drills on Day 1, but his edges are incredible.

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I can't imagine a prospect coming into camp and playing second line

- VANTEL

has the advantage of playing a full training camp and half a season before coming over. hes got a good chance in a short season imo especially against guys that take up to 10reg season games to get going
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 4 @ 3:52 PM ET
Are there actual media personal watching the training camp live or are they watching video clips and making assumptions like the wanna be GM's and super scouts.
- Sea21dog

https://twitter.com/Chris...tatus/1346197065030717441
Sea21dog
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nesook Bay
Joined: 12.30.2020

Jan 4 @ 3:54 PM ET
Live
- VANTEL

Thanks, certainly gives more credence to their observations.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 4 @ 3:54 PM ET
To: Booner & NYN
Re: contracts

Any player can negotiate a new deal or extension in the final year of their current deal for any amount within structure of the current CBA. If Boeser (and his agent) wanted to do an 8 year $24m deal when his current deal was expiring they could. Players, however, tend not to want to make less than they have in previous years, and part of the RFA rules says that in order to retain player rights a team must offer at a minimum the same $ as the final year of the current contract as a starting point to pending RFA’s. This is the “qualifying offer”.

If Troy from Richmond wanted to stay in Vancouver he (and his agent) could have negotiated a two year $4m contract extension but they didn’t because they wanted the starting point to be the $2.35m he was currently earning. They waited until the Canucks didn’t qualify him, oops, and he became an UFA.

- 1970vintage


Thanks. I wasnt aware of that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 4 @ 3:55 PM ET
Thanks, certainly gives more credence to their observations.
- Sea21dog


Not sure how many are in there though.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 4 @ 3:55 PM ET

- Load Management

On the Russian junior team? I’d move him to the 2nd.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 4 @ 3:55 PM ET
Yeah... They're called sports psychologists and most elite athletes and teams (across most sports) use them. 👍
- RealityChecker

Sport MB sent me to one for two years.
Sea21dog
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nesook Bay
Joined: 12.30.2020

Jan 4 @ 3:56 PM ET
https://twitter.com/ChrisFaber39/status/1346197065030717441
- manvanfan

Thanks for sharing
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 4 @ 3:58 PM ET
Sport MB sent me to one for two years.
- manvanfan


Did you have hurt feelings ?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 4 @ 3:58 PM ET
Thanks for sharing
- Sea21dog

First day of ice sessions. Not a lot of time to make a good impression.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 4 @ 3:58 PM ET
Remember when people were wishing that Dubas was our GM because he "rebuilt Toronto right"?
- Retinalz


Lefty.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 4 @ 4:03 PM ET
Are there actual media personal watching the training camp live or are they watching video clips and making assumptions like the wanna be GM's and super scouts.
- Sea21dog


👍
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 4 @ 4:30 PM ET
Thomas Drance
@ThomasDrance
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3m
The tricks and hand-eye are what excites most fans about Nils Hoglander, but watching this training camp session it’s really the lateral speed that gives him a shot at making noise at this camp.

I don’t read much into what I see in drills on Day 1, but his edges are incredible.

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I can't imagine a prospect coming into camp and playing second line

- VANTEL


Like you said, they really just have to beat out Loui, especially if he sees MacEwen/Gaud/JV as the third line. TG knows what he gets and loses having LE play the second line. If he wants to lose a little defensive advantage for more offense, then Hoglander could provide that... if he shows that, at least.

Not like he's beating out an established top 6 player
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 4 @ 4:45 PM ET
not sure about you guys, but seeing clips of the practices, the line combos, the interviews, brings a smile to my face. Man is it awesome to see Canuck hockey back.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 4 @ 4:48 PM ET
Like you said, they really just have to beat out Loui, especially if he sees MacEwen/Gaud/JV as the third line. TG knows what he gets and loses having LE play the second line. If he wants to lose a little defensive advantage for more offense, then Hoglander could provide that... if he shows that, at least.

Not like he's beating out an established top 6 player

- NewYorkNuck


This is 85% or half of my reasoning for putting him on the second line. The competition for the spot is unbelievably low.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 4 @ 4:49 PM ET
not sure about you guys, but seeing clips of the practices, the line combos, the interviews, brings a smile to my face. Man is it awesome to see Canuck hockey back.
- Codes1087

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 4 @ 5:13 PM ET
Lefty.

- boonerbuck

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 4 @ 5:13 PM ET
not sure about you guys, but seeing clips of the practices, the line combos, the interviews, brings a smile to my face. Man is it awesome to see Canuck hockey back.
- Codes1087

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 4 @ 5:15 PM ET
Comets agree to play this year out of Utica. They will have St/Louis's affiliate Springfield join up with the Comets to form a full team.

There will be a Canadian division but Comets will not be part of that. 3 or 4 teams have opted out including Charlotte Checkers (Fla Panthers)
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 4 @ 5:27 PM ET
Marco Dano and Zack Smith placed on waivers,.🤩
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 4 @ 5:27 PM ET
Comets agree to play this year out of Utica. They will have St/Louis's affiliate Springfield join up with the Comets to form a full team.

There will be a Canadian division but Comets will not be part of that. 3 or 4 teams have opted out including Charlotte Checkers (Fla Panthers)

- VANTEL


Makes sense.
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