If true ...the Isles are idiots. Barzal at 6 x 8.5 would have been gold. He's elite.

I'd imagine he was 6 x 9 or even 10. Similar to Rantanen's numbers and rumour was that Tkachuk wanted 6 x 9'ish too before he forced the bridge at 3 x 7.

Make ZERO mistake these 2/3 year deals are to the players advantage. They and their agents are happy. Sure they'd be happier with 6 x 11 like Marner but now they walk themselves in contractual empowerment.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to Point, Tkachuk, Barzal when their 3 year deals come up. They'll have ALL the leverage with just one year left to UFA.
- The Law

They are over the cap as is, they may not have had the space for the extra 1.5 per.
Dunno.

I don't even have a watch 😂
- Zezel

I edited it (like I knew )

And I don't care either, I was just saying that Barzal at 7 is better than Willie at 7.5 or Marner at almost 11.
- bobbyisno1

Nylander doesn't make 7.5 and marner doesn't make 11.

You're comparing a guy who makes 7mil to guys who don't make what you're saying they make.

And they are both signed long term.

And who plays with superstars.
I like willie, but barzal is a beast. Put Barzal on matthews or JTs wing and hed rack up crazy pts as well.
But he doesnt have that in nyi. They also play a less offensive system than the leafs.
- Fakepartofme

Then there is the other side of the argument when you are the number 1 option you will get the most opportunity...

These 2/3 year deals just give GMs more cap space short term to keep their jobs....Its not good for the team. The average GM tenure is 5 years...more cap space in the short term gives them more flexibility to make themselves look better now.
- Santo_44

And GM's don't want the bridge deals (unless maybe in Tampa's situation where they only had the Cap space for a bridge).

Players want to hit UFA at 27/28 now to max out there earnings. Perfect world is a 4 yr deal coming off their ELC's. Teams want to pull as many UFA years as possible but players aren't handing those away as cheaply as they did before. The 3 yr bridge becomes the compromise unless the team is willing to pay for those UFA years.

The risk of the bridge bares out historically too ...more guys like that tend to be playing elsewhere once they hit UFAgency as opposed to staying with their clubs.

They are over the cap as is, they may not have had the space for the extra 1.5 per.
Dunno.
- Fakepartofme

Thst seems like a problem

I edited it (like I knew )
- 21peter

😂

For sure!
Just couldn't find the cap space I guess.
- 21peter

Boychuk is headed for LTIR ...they've got tonnes of room.

Then there is the other side of the argument when you are the number 1 option you will get the most opportunity...
- Santo_44

Scored 80 pts behind JT

Dropped to 60pts the least 2 years as number one option.

Nylander doesn't make 7.5 and marner doesn't make 11.

You're comparing a guy who makes 7mil to guys who don't make what you're saying they make.

And they are both signed long term.
- burn

what? Nylanders average salary is 7.5 And Marner does make on average almost 11

And GM's don't want the bridge deals (unless maybe in Tampa's situation where they only had the Cap space for a bridge).

Players want to hit UFA at 27/28 now to max out there earnings. Perfect world is a 4 yr deal coming off their ELC's. Teams want to pull as many UFA years as possible but players aren't handing those away as cheaply as they did before. The 3 yr bridge becomes the compromise unless the team is willing to pay for those UFA years.

The risk of the bridge bares out historically too ...more guys like that tend to be playing elsewhere once they hit UFAgency as opposed to staying with their clubs.
- The Law

I agree, I like doing the long term deals...they are getting by right now but years 3-6 are going to help out a lot.

Marners contract is whatever to me, I think he will be worth his contract but its not as likely as it should be.

what? Nylanders average salary is 7.5 And Marner does make on average almost 11
- bobbyisno1

Nylanders AVV is 6.9

what? Nylanders average salary is 7.5 And Marner does make on average almost 11
- bobbyisno1

Ummmm....

Boychuk is headed for LTIR ...they've got tonnes of room.
- The Law

Not sure where all the tonnes are...?
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/islanders

what? Nylanders average salary is 7.5 And Marner does make on average almost 11
- bobbyisno1

Take toal $ divide by year you get the avg salary, which happens to be the cap hit.

Nylander is under 7.

If you think he makes 7.5 then you need to reevaluate where you're gettig your info...

HOW ARE THEY GOING TO SIGN TIMASHOV?

Nylanders AVV is 6.9
- Santo_44

Bobby is right - Nylander signed 6 years 45 million.

but because he signed mid season, the cap hit is reduced.

Regardless, cap hit is all the matters.

HOW ARE THEY GOING TO SIGN TIMASHOV?
- Canada Cup

poor little Timmy

Take toal $ divide by year you get the avg salary, which happens to be the cap hit.

Nylander is under 7.

If you think he makes 7.5 then you need to reevaluate where you're gettig your info...
- burn

William Nylander signed a 6 year / $45,000,000 contract with the Toronto Maple Leafs, including $45,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $7,500,000. In 2020-1, Nylander will earn a base salary of $2,500,000 and a signing bonus of $3,500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $6,962,366.

Bobby is right - Nylander signed 6 years 45 million.

but because he signed mid season, the cap hit is reduced.

Regardless, cap hit is all the matters.
- Leafs43

AVV is what matters, Nylander got lucky getting extra cash but the AVV is what was the main negotiation point and it will be until the league drops salary cap.

William Nylander signed a 6 year / $45,000,000 contract with the Toronto Maple Leafs, including $45,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $7,500,000. In 2020-1, Nylander will earn a base salary of $2,500,000 and a signing bonus of $3,500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $6,962,366.
- bobbyisno1

The only number that matters is the last one as long as you keep paying for your cable

William Nylander signed a 6 year / $45,000,000 contract with the Toronto Maple Leafs, including $45,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $7,500,000. In 2020-1, Nylander will earn a base salary of $2,500,000 and a signing bonus of $3,500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $6,962,366.
- bobbyisno1

Cap hit all that matters.... Also marner at 11?

Bobby is right - Nylander signed 6 years 45 million.

but because he signed mid season, the cap hit is reduced.

Regardless, cap hit is all the matters.
- Leafs43

But the first year cap hit was, I believe over 13 mill. And that was why the cap hit got reduced.

William Nylander signed a 6 year / $45,000,000 contract with the Toronto Maple Leafs, including $45,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $7,500,000. In 2020-1, Nylander will earn a base salary of $2,500,000 and a signing bonus of $3,500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $6,962,366.
- bobbyisno1

Willie's cap hit year1 was 10.277M (and salary year1 was 12M).
Which is why the AAV is 6.9 and not 7.5.

AVV is what matters, Nylander got lucky getting extra cash but the AVV is what was the main negotiation point and it will be until the league drops salary cap.
- Santo_44

His AAV is 7.5 million.

His cap hit is 6.9 million. In nearly all cases, these two amounts are the same, in this specific case, they are different.

This is really semantic, but you guys are acting like you are right when you are technically wrong.

Again, I agree that cap hit is all that matters.