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Personally I’m not real concerned about the current goalie situation. It’s unlikely any of these three will be in two years let alone when the hawks are competitive. I want to see the focus on development, playing time and special teams situations for the young prospects that are expected to be the future. And at the same time continue the development of Dcat, Strome and Kubalik. - paulr
You never know about goalies...the light can turn on at any moment. As you know, very few come in at an early age and dominate. The career of Corey Crawford would be much different had the Hawks threw him into the fire when he wasn't ready. I agree with all your other points except I've seen enough of Strome. |
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That sounds like a good plan to me.
In the crazy event that the Hawks qualify for the playoffs, they will need to anoint a starter. A rotation in the postseason would be unwise.
If the Hawks are in the hunt for a berth, then it likely means one of the goalies has separated from the pack anyway. - Theo Fox
Agreed
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mohel
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Yes, and I'm beginning to see that. It seems a lot of Blackhawks are not embracing the rebuild or they are but have unrealistic expectations for the young players and their performance. It will be a long 2-3 years for these Hawk fans. - NamedSources
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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Yes, and I'm beginning to see that. It seems a lot of Blackhawks are not embracing the rebuild or they are but have unrealistic expectations for the young players and their performance. It will be a long 2-3 years for these Hawk fans. - NamedSources
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When are you going to get it? The Hawks are rebuilding so expectations are much different. This year and next is about developing talent. How is a young player namely a goalie going to develop if they keep changing them out game after game? If it were me I would let them play 3 in..3 out...at least for the first half of the season. This is not a veteran group that is expected to compete for a cup. As fans we should be hoping Delia bounces back and has a solid game...maybe JC wants to see what he is made of which is part of developing a young player. - NamedSources
Based on your comment they should of let Subban play 3 games then? Right? I just asked a simple question about who looked better, i guess it was a real hard question for you. |
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When are you going to get it? The Hawks are rebuilding so expectations are much different. This year and next is about developing talent. How is a young player namely a goalie going to develop if they keep changing them out game after game? If it were me I would let them play 3 in..3 out...at least for the first half of the season. This is not a veteran group that is expected to compete for a cup. As fans we should be hoping Delia bounces back and has a solid game...maybe JC wants to see what he is made of which is part of developing a young player. - NamedSources
I agree with this. Even five games in a row. There is an issue, however, if the next goaltender to start five in a row is rusty, having not faced live competition for five or more games. The second goaltender cannot be allowed to stay sharp playing in the AHL, however, due to the taxi squad and covid concerns/league mandate
Allowing five games in a row does sound like a the fairest approach though. It is kind of like tryouts when players tried to make their junior team, or you tried to make your high school sport team and there were lots of kids vying for a roster spot. Only now instead of one or two games - tryout days for us back in the day - you have five games or five days of coaches evaluating you. Ah.... back in those halycon high school years for you or junior camps for the NHL wannabe
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There is a sense of fairness here, too, if you make a mistake, a poor decision, or blow one play, you are not getting stapled to the bench or a seat in the press box
So no, do not claim Dell. Goaltenders are always available and especially so next season after The Expansion Draft. The end goal or objective really ought to be one of these kids, or even someone plucked after The Expansion Draft, is going to be your starter or strong back up next couple or so years. You hope down the road to either develop a highly touted goaltender you have (Cammasaro) or will draft OR it may turn out Bowman is in a position two, three years away to trade for or sign a free agent goaltender.
I would hope one of the trioka presently is part of a goaltending duo next couple seasons. It is expensive and difficult to land a quality starter in net, so maybe a prospect is ready to move into an NHL job.
IT often takes a few years for goaltenders to develop.- see Crawford or Demko who come to mind
It would be helpful if one of the threesome emerges. I favor the calm disposition, the technique, and the Finnish World Cuo experience of Laakinen although he may not actually be the more talented goaltender.
Remember Subban super quick reflexes was a #1 and Delia is called a good athlete. All this and i choose Laakinen.
Give them as fair an opportunity as possible
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mohel
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“You play to win the game.” - Herm Edwards - scottak
Good guy. That is the mentality of a coach. Organizations think more broadly, thankfully. |
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paulr
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You never know about goalies...the light can turn on at any moment. As you know, very few come in at an early age and dominate. The career of Corey Crawford would be much different had the Hawks threw him into the fire when he wasn't ready. I agree with all your other points except I've seen enough of Strome. - NamedSources
Fair enough, goalies certainly are different and tend not to develop as expected. That’s why I always hope the hawks don’t use a high draft pick to get one. I remember Jimmy Waite playing out of his mind at the world juniors them was a bust (no not that kind of bust D) in the NHL. |
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Based on your comment they should of let Subban play 3 games then? Right? I just asked a simple question about who looked better, i guess it was a real hard question for you. - BetweenTheDots
Not hard at all...you're right they didn't do that after Subban's first start and they should have. I guess developing players is a hard thing for you to comprehend. Carry on. |
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“You play to win the game.” - Herm Edwards - scottak
I don't remember Herm Edwards ever winning a super bowl...or rebuilding a franchise....but sure go ahead quote him.
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Based on your comment they should of let Subban play 3 games then? Right? I just asked a simple question about who looked better, i guess it was a real hard question for you. - BetweenTheDots
Are all the games back to back with the same team? If so, I would put the goalies on a 2 game rotation starting with Friday's game at TB. Then each goalie would get 1 game against each team, and we wouldn't be comparing Subban with 2 games vs TB and 1 against Florida, with Delia getting 1 against Florida and 2 against Detroit. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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guys. Subban sucks. Why even bother discussing him? |
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Murray Bannerman. - mohel
Gary Smith |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Gary Smith - Angotti
cristobel huet. marty turco. |
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jhawk59
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guys. Subban sucks. Why even bother discussing him? - Elbows15
Stuck behind Raask. Then behind Fluery. He was rated and selected as a #1. Reknown for quick reflexes. Put in AHL time. Whether he ever becomes average or below/above average likely depends on getting in a groove. Best option probably to do so in AHL then jump back up and try to establish his worthiness. His trial now is not with his best preparation....but he has to seize the challenge. Not torally fair to say he sucks. Say he sucks right now but maybe he could be alright. |
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Not hard at all...you're right they didn't do that after Subban's first start and they should have. I guess developing players is a hard thing for you to comprehend. Carry on. - NamedSources
You know anything about developing players how exactly? |
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Not hard at all...you're right they didn't do that after Subban's first start and they should have. I guess developing players is a hard thing for you to comprehend. Carry on. - NamedSources
Mmmmm okay, you could just say i don't know which goalie looked better |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Stuck behind Raask. Then behind Fluery. He was rated and selected as a #1. Reknown for quick reflexes. Put in AHL time. Whether he ever becomes average or below/above average likely depends on getting in a groove. Best option probably to do so in AHL then jump back up and try to establish his worthiness. His trial now is not with his best preparation....but he has to seize the challenge. Not torally fair to say he sucks. Say he sucks right now but maybe he could be alright. - jhawk59
I don't care what he was drafted to be 8 years ago. He is not good and is on his 4th team. |
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mohel
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While we're developing players....let's get Strome a speed and quickness coach. All he needs is some of that, and he'll be a star. Anybody can suddenly get fast, right? |
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mohel
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I don't care what he was drafted to be 8 years ago. He is not good and is on his 4th team. - Elbows15
Goalie is like a closer baseball - not very important if you suck, but vital once you're good. Right now the Hawks goalie isn't important. |
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jhawk59
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While we're developing players....let's get Strome a speed and quickness coach. All he needs is some of that, and he'll be a star. Anybody can suddenly get fast, right? - mohel
No he tried special training. During summer off season. Worked on stride, maybe strength (?) too. Still below par. He is not ideal as a top L1-2 center. Might be useful on some teams if he can fit as 3rd line and fill in on line one and two. Strome has strong points, has skill but his weaknesses i say hold him back too much. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Goalie is like a closer baseball - not very important if you suck, but vital once you're good. Right now the Hawks goalie isn't important. - mohel
There isn't enough of a body of work to determine what Delia and Lankinen are yet. Subban has been kicking around the league for a few years.
I disagree with your analogy. A really bad goalie can lead to young players developing bad habits. Given the chance, I think either Delia or Lanky can be competent. |
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They were terrible when Al Rollins won the rookie of the year...I think they gave it to him because he was shell-shocked. - wiz1901
He did win a Vezina with Toronto and a Hart with Chicago with a 12-47-7 record.
They went from Rollins to Hall - and hockey respectability. |
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You know anything about developing players how exactly? - GPHawksfan
Enough to know you don't judge a player after 1 game against the Stanley cup champions with no training camp and a suspect defense in front of him. |
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Mmmmm okay, you could just say i don't know which goalie looked better - BetweenTheDots
Or I could just say you lack the body of work to make a sound judgement |
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